Alrite I Need Some POST_WORKOUT Nutrition Advice

[doubles1]

Okay,

For some reason I feel as though I'm becoming confused on what to eat post workout.

I would like advice on what to eat after a weight training session
Would 2 scoops of Whey + 2 scoops of "Primaforce Waxy Maize Starch, Carb Slam"?....

I always thought you wanted simple sugars + some other carbs + PROTEIN post workout....would this be just dextrose or maltodextrin?

Can you take just Waxy Maize? What exactly is it? I tried reading up on this but it just talks about carbs and I want to make a clear distinction


And Also Post workout for cardio only days...What would you recommend postworkout for carbs and protein and what ratios??


Thanks and I really appreicate any feedback...

 

[SpyWizard]

waxy maize at night before bed..


pwo protein/dextrose
ppwo protein green beans, If' i'm feeling sluggish, i'll do 1/2 sweet potato

assuming you workout in the middle of the day.. if you work out late, or in the evening, skip the sweet potato all together..

fish oil.. when do you take that during the day??

 

[GUARDIAN]

60 gr of waxy maize mixed with creatine, glutamine, and BCAA's in water (u can add cyrstal lite for flavor) for PWO. Wait 20 minutes and then have a whey shake.


"So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.

WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.

WMS has the ability to replenish the body’s glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS’s ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS’s ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.

Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS’s popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate."

 

[doubles1]

what bout the fact that there is no sugar???

so because the waxy maize absorbs so fast we do not need sugar post workout???

 

[02gixxersix]

60 gr of waxy maize mixed with creatine, glutamine, and BCAA's in water (u can add cyrstal lite for flavor) for PWO. Wait 20 minutes and then have a whey shake.


"So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.

WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.

WMS has the ability to replenish the body’s glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS’s ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS’s ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.

Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS’s popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate."

What I was gonna say only way less detailed. Good post bro. You want WMS to make up 75% or more of whatever you put it in so you can take full advantage of the high molecular weight carb bringing the other supps through your gut to be absorbed. When I worked out away from home I would have a shake during my workout with WMS, L-Leucine, BCAA's and creatine. I then had the same shake after my workout on the drive home. 20 minutes later 2 scoops of whey.

 

[doubles1]

Still No ONE Answers the question about SUGAR? fruits/ something simple to stimulate the metabolism....

what do you think????

 

[GUARDIAN]

Still No ONE Answers the question about SUGAR? fruits/ something simple to stimulate the metabolism....

what do you think????

dext/mal/glucose - these can be used to spike insulin if u take in about 75grams. still it is inferior to WM.

plain ole sugar, fruits, etc. are not necessarily good choices. u need to concentrate on their glycemic index. the higher the number the better the source for spiking your insulin. glucose is the benchmark of 100 (WM is well over a 100). google a glycemic index chart and look at some of your fruit choices. an apple for example is about 40-50 while watermelon is about 70-80 i think.

 

[doubles1]

GUARDIAN.

So you would recommend WM because of the higher GI...

It essentially is just throwing me off because when I look at the nutritional label it shows 0 SUGARS? Am I correct in this statement that its just deceiving because we are so used to using malt/dextrose and or fruit sugars?

In closing I can take 2 scoops of WAXY MAIZE and 2 scoops of Whey and have that be a perfect postworkout shake??? how bout on a cardio only day

i appreicate all the feedback and calrification.

Regards

 

[footballstud]

dext/mal/glucose - these can be used to spike insulin if u take in about 75grams. still it is inferior to WM.

plain ole sugar, fruits, etc. are not necessarily good choices. u need to concentrate on their glycemic index. the higher the number the better the source for spiking your insulin. glucose is the benchmark of 100 (WM is well over a 100). google a glycemic index chart and look at some of your fruit choices. an apple for example is about 40-50 while watermelon is about 70-80 i think.

I like to keep things simple, so it sounds like a banana and some honey will do the trick.

Why do I keep hearing good things about chocolate milk post/WO?

 

[02gixxersix]

Simple sugars are going to be more likely to be stored as fat than a complex carb like WMS. The idea behind the simple sugar as Guardian said is that it is absorbed quickkly and creates and insulin spike which will shuttle PWO nutrients to the muscles. I'm not sure what kind of quick effect WMS has on insulin secretion but I know it is very quickly absorbed through the small intestine.

 

[doubles1]

So we can get away with just Wms and whey postsorkiut is the conclusion...

 

[SouthernLord]

So we can get away with just Wms and whey postsorkiut is the conclusion...

I like...
80gm WMS + 15gm BCAA + 5gm Creatine

then 20-30 minutes later....
60gm of Ion Exchange Whey Isolate

then a few minutes after that...
1 cup of Oats mixed with 1 cup of frozen raspberries or blueberries and fat free milk.

then 45-60 minutes after that I have a regular meal. Usually steak and some green veggie.

 

[moonshine420]

^^^^^^^^

 

[skyflyer231]

How important is it really to have a post workout shake???

Wouldn't just having a pre workout shake with carbs in it, and then eating a meal soon after you workout be pretty much as beneficial? I just don't understand why it's so important to deliver the protein to the muscles as fast as possible.

Your muscles take a good while to repair, which is why we feed ourselves around 6 meals a day high in protein... So PWO is more important than all the other meals?

Just trying to figure this out, it never really made sense to me.

 

[skyflyer231]

Anyone?

 

[tk7209]

In the grand scheme of things a PWO meal doesn't add much, in the same way that one workout doens't add much either. But it's the sum of the small parts that contribute to the whole, if you get my drift.

After you've worked out your body is crying out for nutrients and apparantly can process more nutrients than it would normally, so it's a great window of opportunity to help boost growth.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Yes I recommend WM bc of the higher GI/molecular weight.

It is very deceiving about the sugars. WM is a starch not a sugar but a carb none the less. Research some more about WM on your own to discover how it works.

I would seperate the WM from the protein. The protein, even whey, will slow down the digestion of WM. The only things I would add to WM are BCAA's, glutamine, creatine, and water (crystal light for flavor if your WM is unflavored). then wait about 15-20 minutes and have your whey.

On cardio day only i personally dont take WM. it is not necessary.

GUARDIAN.

So you would recommend WM because of the higher GI...

It essentially is just throwing me off because when I look at the nutritional label it shows 0 SUGARS? Am I correct in this statement that its just deceiving because we are so used to using malt/dextrose and or fruit sugars?

In closing I can take 2 scoops of WAXY MAIZE and 2 scoops of Whey and have that be a perfect postworkout shake??? how bout on a cardio only day

i appreicate all the feedback and calrification.

Regards

 

[Sim882]

Simple sugars are going to be more likely to be stored as fat than a complex carb like WMS. The idea behind the simple sugar as Guardian said is that it is absorbed quickkly and creates and insulin spike which will shuttle PWO nutrients to the muscles. I'm not sure what kind of quick effect WMS has on insulin secretion but I know it is very quickly absorbed through the small intestine.

Why would simple sugars be more likely stored as fat than WMS, if GI of WMS same as glucose.

Also, anyone add cocoa to their PWO shakes, as it has potent insulin effect

 

[doubles1]

what would you take post cardio after 1hr of cardio only/???

 

[sugashane]

I like...
80gm WMS + 15gm BCAA + 5gm Creatine

then 20-30 minutes later....
60gm of Ion Exchange Whey Isolate

then a few minutes after that...
1 cup of Oats mixed with 1 cup of frozen raspberries or blueberries and fat free milk.

then 45-60 minutes after that I have a regular meal. Usually steak and some green veggie.

Sounds good. I'll probably have to try it out. I'm not sure if that will make it hard for me to eat the regular meal though