Alright.. i must do this.

[VNV_Disciple]

This might not make sense for most people, not all about BB'ing,some psychological crap, etc is involved (besides focus, and motivation)

Well to get quicker to the point,
I'm 5'8 half, inbetween 180-190..
Not LOTS of muscle..

My family is quite diverse,
My mom has depression, i do too, we both take Effexor XR
My dad has forms of Bi-polar, i have bi-polar 1. Or -121342424214LOL
Everyone in my family is normal size c'ept, me and my dad.

My dad's body looks just like mine, He's 55, i'm 18
And.. my bro john who's turning 22 is 5'9 1/4 and 124lbs
Man.. more he eats skinnier he becomes, it's true

My sis is normal size (average)
My bro eric oldest (28) is skinny
My mom is 5'2 and average.

My problem must be family issues,.

I need some dietitional help.
I just need to lost weight while gaining muscle
(wow i haven't heard that one before!)
Please.?.. with Protein on top?

 

[VNV_Disciple]

B-u-m-p

 

[HERPECIN]

youre already laying out excuses for failure

all the bs aside, post your diet and training regimen...train hard...eat right and prosper

 

[newbiebynature]

ur blaming your moms depression for you being fat?

 

[thelion2005]

At 18, you can really make big visible changes in a short time with diet and exercise. Add education to it and in 4-5 years, you'll be very successful.

Why not invest a few bucks in a good reference book ... read it cover to cover ... set up some realistic goals .... and get going!

I'd suggest John Hansen's book. Just Google the name and read about him.

 

[VNV_Disciple]

ur blaming your moms depression for you being fat?

wtf lol, no, my mental disorders are heridity
has nothing to do with my physical status,
BUT, the supplements such as NO-Xplode, Xpand
And some other stuff which i tried, and still take
Have a warning, on the Side, bout ask a physician, blah,
No prescription BS, and to tell you the truth, after two days using Xpand
Which has a stimulant,.. i feel F***eerded up..

I went to the shitter bout 12mins ago, and i crapped either the Xpand, or it was blood, i might stop taking it, i dunno..

 

[VNV_Disciple]

Here is my routine, i know i need to change it..
After you read it, and before you post a reply bout it
I know that i'm a newb at training Techniques


Stretch both days

DAY ONE:
Flat Bench Press, 5 sets. of 8
Decline DB Press, 5 sets. of 8
Cross overs 4 sets of 8
Lat pull down 4 sets. of 8
DB rows 4 sets of 8
Low Pulley Row 4 sets. of 8
Ab rope crunches 4 sets of 8
Torso twist 4 sets of 8

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DAY TWO:
Military Press or Dumbbell Press 4 sets of 8
Upright Rows 4 sets of 8
Side Laterals 4 sets of 8
Bent laterals DB 4 sets of 8
Front Laterals 4 sets of 8
DB curls 4 sets of 8
Preacher curls 4 sets of 8
Tri-Extensions 4 sets of 8
Ab rope crunches 4 sets of 8
Machine crunches 4 sets of 8

DAY FOUR:
Warms ups
leg stretch,

Squats 4 sets of 8
Leg press 4 sets of 8
Leg Extensions 4 sets of 8
Stiff-Leg DL's 4 sets of 8
Standing Calf Raises 4 sets of 8
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets of 8
Hip adduction 4 sets of 8
Machine ab crunches 4 sets of 8
Gripless ab crunches 4 sets of 8

 

[VNV_Disciple]

At 18, you can really make big visible changes in a short time with diet and exercise. Add education to it and in 4-5 years, you'll be very successful.

Why not invest a few bucks in a good reference book ... read it cover to cover ... set up some realistic goals .... and get going!

I'd suggest John Hansen's book. Just Google the name and read about him.

How much is the book?...
Everyone tells me to "Buy" the Arnold encylopedia..

 

[HERPECIN]

Here is my routine, i know i need to change it..
After you read it, and before you post a reply bout it
I know that i'm a newb at training Techniques


Stretch both days

DAY ONE:
Flat Bench Press, 5 sets. of 8
Decline DB Press, 5 sets. of 8
Cross overs 4 sets of 8
Lat pull down 4 sets. of 8
DB rows 4 sets of 8
Low Pulley Row 4 sets. of 8
Ab rope crunches 4 sets of 8
Torso twist 4 sets of 8

K9BEE72yQ6

DAY TWO:
Military Press or Dumbbell Press 4 sets of 8
Upright Rows 4 sets of 8
Side Laterals 4 sets of 8
Bent laterals DB 4 sets of 8
Front Laterals 4 sets of 8
DB curls 4 sets of 8
Preacher curls 4 sets of 8
Tri-Extensions 4 sets of 8
Ab rope crunches 4 sets of 8
Machine crunches 4 sets of 8

DAY FOUR:
Warms ups
leg stretch,

Squats 4 sets of 8
Leg press 4 sets of 8
Leg Extensions 4 sets of 8
Stiff-Leg DL's 4 sets of 8
Standing Calf Raises 4 sets of 8
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets of 8
Hip adduction 4 sets of 8
Machine ab crunches 4 sets of 8
Gripless ab crunches 4 sets of 8

btw, stop listening to depressing music like VNV Nation and youll probably feel better.

Do you train back?

 

[VNV_Disciple]

btw, stop listening to depressing music like VNV Nation and youll probably feel better.

Do you train back?

Train back, yes.

Lat pulldowns,DB rows,..

Oh. sorry heh, i every some weeks,.. i withdrawal a workout in exchange for another.. i think i do it.. either every 2 - 3 weeks,.. i might have this schedule really F***Ed up. i can't remember all this stuff, i print out my schedule and take it with me to the gym,.. ADD sucks

OH about the music, i only listen to VNV at home on the PC...

At the gym, durring cardio and workouts i listen to,Bloodbath,The Berzerker,Hypocrisy,In Flames,Psycroptic, etc, more... I love loud fast bassfull, Dlkejfhasfd music, I had The berzerker on repeat once while doing cardio, i did it on the Precor, i was headbanging, making noises crap, i did that for a hour and thrity two mins!!, on Max level incline and resistance..
PS Precor resistance isn't hard...