you can see results in 4 weeks but its not anything i recommend... your just getting going at that point... your leaving so many gains on the table... you can do whatever you want but its FAR from optimal...
Got the point..
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you can see results in 4 weeks but its not anything i recommend... your just getting going at that point... your leaving so many gains on the table... you can do whatever you want but its FAR from optimal...
Got the point..
That's mainly because, i suppose, the benefits appearing, only after the day 14 or so, is it correct? So, only after the second week one can see something.
But, this time (14 days), is the same for all lgd-s4-mk-gw? All of them need 2 weeks before showing their progress? Or have different times of manifestation? For example GW, in theory, should show it's benefits since the firsts days, or even at every wo (if taken pre-wo).
Thanks for answer
If on gw and osta whats the advised dosage for someone who works out at 4AM?
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I pmd you but does one need a pct w gw and osta?
Ive read diff things but heard to maybe take hcgenerate.
Thanks.
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I pmd you but does one need a pct w gw and osta?
Ive read diff things but heard to maybe take hcgenerate.
Thanks.
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If you run a cycle with lgd then follow it with a mini pct can you go right back into another lgd cycle after the pct?
you should wait 4 weeks before you run lgd again...
Still killing it on this thread Dylan... Thought I would pop in on ya mane! You SOB..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99ioxHcIQQ
Still killing it on this thread Dylan... Thought I would pop in on ya mane! You SOB..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99ioxHcIQQ
I swear. I had a 3rd grader named Dylan and it was so difficult not to say that to him. He gave me a present and I was soooo close to saying it. Was like youuuuuuuuuu.... And never finished. Fortunately for us both.
Here is a new Dylan vid about s-4 dosages:
How to properly dose Andarine (S-4) - YouTube
Is it safe to take SARMS and antibiotics?
I'm just starting week 3 of my triple stack cycle, and I'm almost certain the doctor is going to prescribe me antibiotics on Monday for a diverticulitis flare up that I'm having.
Should I stop my cycle now or is it safe to still run while on antibiotics?
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I'm about to start my second round of Sarms (LGD/S4/GW). Was planning to go 8 weeks again (that's what I did last time). We have a 1 week family vaca that will fall on week 6 and I won't be able to get to a gym for a whole week. Should I just wait to start the cycle till after that trip, or should I go ahead and start now and know that week 6 will be kind of a waste?
Hey guys,
I'm not here to intentionally "hijack" a thread, but this seems to be the master thread for GW-501516 questions... Long story short, I got some gw last year but before I had a chance to use it I got pretty sick (crohn's) and lost around 30lbs... Needless to say, I've not had a use for the gw since because I have been trying to get my mass back up.
So this month marks 12 months since my initial purchase and I decided to go ahead and try it out since I've been making good gains and a little more lean-ness before summer couldn't hurt right? Well to my surprise, my gw (4 bottles) each have their own distinct variation now (this was not the case 1 year ago). I understand that it is ok for the solution to be cloudy (as each bottle was when ordered), and I have read that the shelf life should last at least 1 year (un-opened, away from sunlight, etc.), but I just can't look at the bottles and tell myself it is ok. At the same time, I believe these were around $400 so I don't wanna toss them either. Thus I am here on the form asking for some second opinions. What do you think?
Also, I will mention:
pic 1 - looks most like what I initially received
pic 2 - looks super clear (maybe a good shaking would help the sediment??)
pic 3 - this is my most concerning bottle, those particles in the solution are not air bubbles (ie: I didn't shake it before the pic)
pic 4 - looks similar to pic 2
I've been on a liquid diet the past three days due to a diverticulitis flare up, and I also just started week 3 of my sarms triple stack. I haven't been able to hit the gym or eat anything in the last four days due to the flare up, and it might go on for another 5 days. I was planning on running this cycle for 8 weeks, but I'm not even sure it's worth continuing at this point.
Should I stop the cycle now or tough it out?
Bro thats really up to you and how you feel... If its longer than a week then you may consider restarting but thats all up to you
I think I will have to restart if this continues beyond this week.
Thanks again.
Going to buy some GW-501516 and the others but soon, but i fucking afraid of the customs here in Norway... They are very strict!!! And they they take my stuff and i lose money and get a ticket.. So what do i do? I really want to try this stuff? Also going to buy from Ag-guys some of that albuterol but again the customs... Anything to do?
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Dylan, we haven't gone into a lot of detail on the 6/1 or 5/2 regiment with S-4, how do you feel about it? I'm sure guys on the forum would like to know. I'm talking more about the guys who are side effect prone (small 30%).
Dylan what is the SUGGESTED weeks to use GW?
12?
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if going past 50mg of S4 is it better to still dose evenly twice a day or could you do 1 higher dose or 3-4 separate doses? For instance if you've worked up to 75-100mg a day should you do 50mg in the AM and 25mg in the PM or 25mg AM, 25mg PM, 25mg PM,.
I worked up past 50mg during my last s4 run. I wasn't very accurate tho with the doses between the 1/4th ml because oral syringes can only take to so far in precise measurements. But, the new measured droppers from Sarms1 are amazing and hassle free I'm willin to dose more than twice a day. I feel my sweet spot was around 75mg as I started to really lean out and I got a huge strength boost compared to 50mg. I didn't notice much more wen I went above 75mg so I plan to work up to the same this time around.
keep it twice a day at 4-6 hours apart
Hi guys,
i testing out S4 and GW from sarms1 for the first time. I've tried only from uniquemicals a couple of times and well this last time it did not felt like it did a few years ago.
What i don't get with s4 from sarms1 is the same sides as early as i got from uniquemicals before, is this beacuse sarms1 are a better product or just correct dosed in the bottles you think?
i'm upping the dosage abit now to 60mg a day.
the fact that S4 sides hit so hard, so quickly (some more then others) shows the potency of sarms1 products. I actually didn't experience any vision sides with other brands of sarms.Hi guys,
i testing out S4 and GW from sarms1 for the first time. I've tried only from uniquemicals a couple of times and well this last time it did not felt like it did a few years ago.
What i don't get with s4 from sarms1 is the same sides as early as i got from uniquemicals before, is this beacuse sarms1 are a better product or just correct dosed in the bottles you think?
i'm upping the dosage abit now to 60mg a day.
Hi Dylan I finished 20 weeks cycle using sust 350, and as soon I finish my pct I want to try the sarms and I will like to know which one I need for bulking and how many bottles I need and for how long I can use it thanks.
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here you go bro...
1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 “liquidex” Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
Thanks Dylan
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Hi Dylan, does Gw need any pct or assist after or during 14 weeks at 20mg?
Also, I'm wanting to use the bogo deal and order 3 bottles but it's a lot of money to get fizzed through customs,what sort of success does SARMS1 have delivering to the uk, cheers
Will Cardarine GW pop on a piss test like at work we have random's...will it show?
Ok cheers Dylan, all ordered now for a great price!
I'm in the UK and my bottles arrived fineAlso, I'm wanting to use the bogo deal and order 3 bottles but it's a lot of money to get fizzed through customs,what sort of success does SARMS1 have delivering to the uk, cheers
Will Cardarine GW pop on a piss test like at work we have random's...will it show?
Dylan, first I want to say thank you for helping me put together my LGD experiment. I've actually ran it twice with great success the past few months.
Now I'm in the mood for a little mid-summer mild run and I notice UC has gone downhill so it looks like I'll have a chance to try Sarms1 soon.
What I want to run is a simple MK2866 cycle and I'm wondering what the preferred setup is now.
Seeing as the LGD setup seems to have changed with new findings and I haven't been up to date, is there anything new on Osta?
I've run Osta in the past in the 2 PCTs with LGD but I'm curious if anything has changed with the dosages or ancillaries needed?
How would you set this up? And how long should I wait since my last LGD PCT before starting?
Appreciate your help as always.
here you go bro...
1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 “liquidex” Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
are you just wanting osta as a stand alone? what are your goals from the cycle?
Hi dylan
What sarms cycle would you recommend for someone that hasn't ever ran a cycle of aas or sarms before? Should i just use 1 compound at a time to see how i react to it or could i run gw and s4 right off the bat, can i run it 12 weeks or should i stick to 6 or 8 weeks? I know that after s4 for over 4 weeks i would need to run a pct. A little insight on what i want to do: i want to lean out a good amount and mainly get rid of the stubborn chest and stomach fat. My stats are 5'7 170lbs and around 15% body fat. If the amount of compounds i take for my first time doesn't matter i like this cycle. From the research I've done on the Sarms this cycle looks favorable
thanks in advance!
Correct. I really just want to see how Osta performs compared to LGD as a standalone in the 8-12 week range. And how Sarms1 quality stacks up to what I've used before. Happy 4th!
okay well then here you go bro... simple yet effective...
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
Thank you. Looking forward to trying this out very soon.
sarms are not like aas when you should start with just one... they are non methylated and don't have anywhere near the kind of sides aas do... you are completely fine to start with the triple stack...
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
I think I'm gonna run this... Do you think kick starting the cycle with dianabulk for 4 weeks would be a good idea? Would I have to run n2guard for 12 weeks?
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I'm running MK-2866 and S4. The things i read said they don't cause bad cramps, but every time i run i cramp up so bad my foot gets numb 2 miles in. I never experienced this before i was on cycle. Is it possible it maybe the SARMS causing it?
Just recieved my Cardarine the other day and I'm in the UK, is fantastic delivery time from Sarms1. The solution liquid is with white like substance floating in it? I'm guessing that's ok and just needs a good shake?<br/>
Any reason the dosing for women and men is the same on the GW and S4 but the Osta is cut in half?
My fiancé just received her triple stack and starts taking it Monday after a week off from her trial run of Osta at 12.5mg for 8 weeks. This will be a 12-week run of all three. S4 split doses (25/25pm), GW 20mg (30min before workout) and Osta 12.5mg in the morning.
Any reason she shouldn't do the 25mg Osta?
Thanks!
Oh we also read that most people slowly increase dosing of S4 to see tolerance/effect does this still apply or can she just start day one with the 25/25 split?
it starts to get a bit strong for females at that dosage... now a female body builder is one thing but just a normal female has no business running it that high... there's far more things to worry about at that dose... you can do whatever you want and if you question it then that's fine but there's absolutely no need whatsoever to exceed 12.5 mg as a female unless you are just not seeing results, which is possible, however not likely... its just like females only running anavar at 10-20 mg as opposed to males running it 60 and above...
she can start with the 25/25 split on s4...
Appreciate the quick response! Thanks Dylan!
From what I read, LGD is a lot more potent than Osta. So why is the triple stack still featuring Osta? And why do most people in the thread still go with Osta? Just curious cuz I ran LGD / S4 / GW and was planning to run it again, but wondering if I should give Osta a try instead and compare. Thoughts?
Thanks Dylan! Man you are fast!
How long should one wait after finishing PCT (clomid, torem and osta) before running an S4, lgd, and GW cycle? I'm on week 3 of pct. I understand this will be suppressive..
How long should one wait after finishing PCT (clomid, torem and osta) before running an S4, lgd, and GW cycle? I'm on week 3 of pct. I understand this will be suppressive..
simply because there's less suppression, more healing, less sides, different properties, etc... some people don't want as much size as lgd is capable of putting on and although you can cut with lgd, osta is easier to cut with... they have similarities but still possess different qualities as well... what you run depends on what your goals are, just like anything else... you can run them both together as well if you want... it just depends on what your wanting to accomplish... look at it like this... how do you decide between winstrol and anavar? they possess a lot of similarities but winstrol is stronger but has more sides... people stack them because although similar they possess different qualities as well... same concept, different products... it just depends on the person and their goals from the stack bro...
Hey if you run LGD and Osta together what can you expect the difference to be vs running them separte?
I've done the osterine triple stack in the past and right now I've been running LGD and S4 for almost a month and a half. In a couple days I'm going to add Oxandrovar into this stack and planned on using ostarine in PCT.
If it would be recommened to add Osterine now and run LGD, Osterine, S4 and Oxandrovar for 6 weeks and then continue with only osterine into PCT I would/will.
I had thought LGD and Osterine at the same time was not a god Idea but apparently I may have missed an update on sarms that says differently.
So would you recommend I add Osterine to Oxandrovar, LGD, and S4 for 6 weeks and extend the osterine for 4 more weeks while in PCT? Or should I just wait to start osterine in PCT?
And thanks for your response man. I have read all your articles at evolutinary.org many times and I wasn't implying that you or anyone said LGD and MK-2866 is the same/exact same or that they can't be ran together at the same time in a cycle.
I was just wondering if I've missed something or if it's still not optimal to run them together vs another stack. I thought maybe I missed the quad stack post? LGD/MK/S4/GW or the super lean gains stack LGD/MK post. I just want to make sure I'm still on top of the info out there. Thanks again,
there is no "quad" article bro... there never was... you absolutely can run it like that and it will definitely add to your gains...
Any chance you have some discount codes for Osta? All your info is very clear and intriguing, I tried s4 by cem for my research I was conducting... And it seemed to work well for fat loss. But the price was 200$ for a month... Is there a reliable cheaper place you can recommend for Ostarine that you may have some discounts for?
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I'm currently running prop/tren/mast, anavar, ghrp-2, & cjc-1295 and was thinking of adding S-4 & GW for 6 weeks. Then running LGD & Ost as a bridge w my TRT dose of tes... What do you think?
Question about dosage timing.
Wake at 3:25am eat/dress (take Osta/S4)
4:30am - drive to work
2:30pm drive home from work
3:20 - take GW
3:30pm gym
8-9pm - go to bed (second S4 dose)
Should I be taking the s4 earlier? Perhaps with the ore workout GW??
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