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Thanks brother, learning more from you every time!
All of your SARMS1 questions... Ask them here!!
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trinitrophenol
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Thanks a million dylan! you are the man!
Talking about an expert and one of the truest bros I've ever met giving advice in here.
trinitrophenol
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Sorry another quick question, I know S4 half life is 4-6 hours, and I can only workout late night around 11pm, should I take my spilt dose at 2pm and 7pm instead of am/pm?
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taking it before working out is not necessary... i would tend to avoid dosing s4 at night bro... gw is the only one that is really necessary to take closer to when you workout...
Sakari
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I just started taking GW. I dose in AM and PM. But, I workout in mid day.... I can change my dosing time but not my workout times. Should I dose in am and again before I workout? Or, I can dose it before workout and again at bed (8 hours later) I thought GW had an 18-24 half life?
Thanks, Sakari
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Pocket_Hercules
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When amping up the mg dosage of S4 by 10mg, how many mL should I go up by? So far the sides associated with the S4 are manageable at 50mg so I feel ready to increase to 60mg
you can dose it all at once as well... i tend to mix it up... one cycle i split them and one cycle i take all at once... just take it all at once about 30 minutes before your workout
please read my dosing protocol... its been posted a million times but i guess i'll put it up again...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/how-properly-dose-s4-931903.html
i wouldn't recommend it... all you are doing is slowing down your metabolism... not very wise at all...
Pocket_Hercules
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Cool, appreciate it.
I really want to buy some SARMs soon but I keep finding conflicting information. I'm just starting a cutting phase and would like to see the elevated fat loss affects of SARMs. Also, even though I'm highly skeptical of it, I'd like to add one in for building lean mass and hardening up. The only problem I have with that is I do not want to touch S-4. Only because my eyes bug the hell out of me because I work on computers around bright fluorescent lights all day. Also, I almost have glaucoma so getting vision side effects is not something I want to mess with at the moment.
So Dylan, what two SARMs would you recommend for the quickest fat loss while adding lean muscle without touching S-4? If possible.
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So Dylan, what two SARMs would you recommend for the quickest fat loss while adding lean muscle without touching S-4? If possible.
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I finally found one of your articles Dylan. Great article by the way. I posted exactly what I was looking for below, but my question sort of remains the same. Is there anything you would recommend that could replace the S-4 in a recomp cycle? Maybe Ostarine stacked with Cardarine?
"Ostarine with its anabolic and nutrient partitioning effects is ideal for such a goal and a dosing protocol of 12.5-25mg for 4-8 weeks will give excellent recomp effects. Stacking with S-4 as well as GW 501516 will be excellent for a recomp as well. The beauty of SARMS is they are multifaceted in their use. Your diet and training will dictate the results, but there are many options that are possible with them"
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"Ostarine with its anabolic and nutrient partitioning effects is ideal for such a goal and a dosing protocol of 12.5-25mg for 4-8 weeks will give excellent recomp effects. Stacking with S-4 as well as GW 501516 will be excellent for a recomp as well. The beauty of SARMS is they are multifaceted in their use. Your diet and training will dictate the results, but there are many options that are possible with them"
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yes its fine...
Thanks a bunch man! I'll do the rest of the research from here and jump on it soon.
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if you need help with a full cycle layout, just let me know...
Once I got everything planned out I'll throw you a PM on what I have. I found all your articles so I'll run through them so I don't waste your time. And thanks again man. I see a lot of your posts and videos, you definitely have my respect.
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spike1977
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Wow very impressed with SARMS 1 delivery. Just received SARMS1 PCT Stack here in Australia.
Ordered on the 19th Feb and received today. I'm very excited to try SARMS 1 GW and MK-2866 and see what the buzz is all about.
I am not new to SARMS, I have completed a Triple Stack in the past from another source and was quite happy with the results.
Ordered on the 19th Feb and received today. I'm very excited to try SARMS 1 GW and MK-2866 and see what the buzz is all about.
I am not new to SARMS, I have completed a Triple Stack in the past from another source and was quite happy with the results.
spike1977
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Can't wait Dylan. Starting PCT in 3 days, more excited about my PCT than I was about my PH on cycle.
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if you have an questions along the way just let me know
I am on day 10 of an LGD / S4 / GW stack, and other than being hungry all the time and gaining 4 lbs the first 10 days, I don't feel a lot stronger.
Then last night the infamous S4 vision sides starting kicking in (I'm at 70mg per day on S4). So I'm psyched! This stuff really does work, and I don't see the vision side as a downer. I am glad that it just goes to show that what people have been saying about this stuff is legit.
It WILL work, and it WILL do what these guys say it will. It just takes longer than 10 days for you (and me). I will keep you updated on my progress. Keep me updated on yours.
I'm gonna run 8 weeks, then a 4 week pct. I started at 220 (now 224), 7%-ish body fat. I'm 6'4". I took all the tape measurments for day 1. So I'm excited to see my numbers at 4 weeks, 8 weeks, and 12 weeks.
Then last night the infamous S4 vision sides starting kicking in (I'm at 70mg per day on S4). So I'm psyched! This stuff really does work, and I don't see the vision side as a downer. I am glad that it just goes to show that what people have been saying about this stuff is legit.
It WILL work, and it WILL do what these guys say it will. It just takes longer than 10 days for you (and me). I will keep you updated on my progress. Keep me updated on yours.
I'm gonna run 8 weeks, then a 4 week pct. I started at 220 (now 224), 7%-ish body fat. I'm 6'4". I took all the tape measurments for day 1. So I'm excited to see my numbers at 4 weeks, 8 weeks, and 12 weeks.
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steveff
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Is there a definitive way to tell when Ostarine really "kicks in"? I know it's at roughly the 2wk mark. I can tell when S4 is working due to vision sides, but does Ostarine show any distinct signs of working? Other than the obvious, "well, I got bigger"
-just curious as to what people have to say about this one
-just curious as to what people have to say about this one
ha1a1
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LG took approx 3 weeks to fully kick in for me. GW kicked in in a couple of days. Currently on 25mg of Osta still getting stronger, hard to say as I started Osta as LG finished but If I had to guess Id say 10-14 days for strength & the healing property was noticeable after 7 days.
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Oatmeal12
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For me I did not feel anything. Just what I saw in the mirror week by week was fucking awesome. Im still pushing just as much weight as I did on cycle
Shrine1
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Thats the best part.. Love ostarine bro.. its my favorite amongst the sarms
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that's the thing... everyone responds differently... some react very quickly and some take a little bit longer but it WILL kick in and when it does, the results speak for themselves... This is why I always recommend 12 week cycles...
You will see a big strength increase, almost out of nowhere... You will feel more refreshed and feel as though nagging injuries are gone and just an overall sense of well being as well as lean muscle gain and leaning out.. You will see all of these and more...
I get that too. Maybe just a coincidence.
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ha1a1
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I got lethergy on the first few days so switched to dosing right as I leave for gym and it solved it for me.
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thats the complete opposite of what you should be feeling... where did you purchase it from?
you should never feel that with its use... that's the complete opposite of how you should feel on it...
they clear very quickly... the half life is only 4-6 hours... that's why people that just can't handle the sides go with 5 on and 2 off because the side effect goes away so quickly... it will not linger or anything like that bro...
steveff
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As long as nobody has experienced permanent vision sides...just me being paranoid guys haha
I posted this in my SARMs log but figured I'd get a better response from everyone in this thread:
Any thoughts on adding albuterol or GW into the mix (currently on S4/MK-2866/Forma)? Right now it's just an unnecessary addition, so I'm trying to save money and only order 1 bottle of either.. I can get them both for roughly the same price for roughly the same duration of use.
I'd use GW @15mg from weeks 7-12. (unless it'd be more beneficial to run 20mg from weeks 9-12)
OR
I can use albuterol @about 15mg for the same duration of time.
Which one would be more beneficial? Or which is more powerful at that dosage- is more my question. Both seem to be hit or miss for people.
I posted this in my SARMs log but figured I'd get a better response from everyone in this thread:
Any thoughts on adding albuterol or GW into the mix (currently on S4/MK-2866/Forma)? Right now it's just an unnecessary addition, so I'm trying to save money and only order 1 bottle of either.. I can get them both for roughly the same price for roughly the same duration of use.
I'd use GW @15mg from weeks 7-12. (unless it'd be more beneficial to run 20mg from weeks 9-12)
OR
I can use albuterol @about 15mg for the same duration of time.
Which one would be more beneficial? Or which is more powerful at that dosage- is more my question. Both seem to be hit or miss for people.
im surprised you are already not using gw... the gw at sarms1 is never a miss... its the purest form you will find and is the ultimate addition to any cycle... of course its FAR stronger than albuterol... I am an albuterol fan but albuterol needs to be ran with something like gw to really have an added benefit... if your going to pick just 1 then you want the CARDARINE brand of gw at sarms1... that is BY FAR the best of the best...
+1 Yup, S1 cardarine is by far the best on the market.
it only gets better my friend...
manystyles
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Dylan,
Thanks for all your help.
I'm getting ready to start an osta only cycle. Just had a few questions about a couple things.
1. Do I take the Hcgenerate during my cycle and after for the mini pct?
2. How many bottles do I need. I'm guessing 2 bottles of Hcgenerate.
3. I work midnight shift mon-fri. Is there any change to the cycle, besides switching the times I take everything because I sleep at night for 2 days?
Thanks for your time
Thanks for all your help.
I'm getting ready to start an osta only cycle. Just had a few questions about a couple things.
1. Do I take the Hcgenerate during my cycle and after for the mini pct?
2. How many bottles do I need. I'm guessing 2 bottles of Hcgenerate.
3. I work midnight shift mon-fri. Is there any change to the cycle, besides switching the times I take everything because I sleep at night for 2 days?
Thanks for your time
Hcgenerate on cycle and hcgenerate es for your mini pct...
Each bottle lasts 30 days
No changes necessary besides times
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If you're getting HCGenerate, pick it up now, N2BM is doing 15% off for a limited time.
Last day of Sarm1 triple stack cycle, mini pct will begin tomorrow.
I have hcgenerate es, per Dylan's recommendation, but I also bought test stack 17. Thoughts on coupling the two together during pct? Wasteful or beneficial?
Thanks in advance.
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I have hcgenerate es, per Dylan's recommendation, but I also bought test stack 17. Thoughts on coupling the two together during pct? Wasteful or beneficial?
Thanks in advance.
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you can... its not necessary but you can
Dylan,
My brain hurts and I just cannot read any more. I need to actually just ask my questions and hope you do not get too annoyed at potential repetitive questions. I have been reading threads here and evolutionary.org; based on my stats (36 years old, 5' 8", 223 lbs, +20% body fat, can post pics if needed) I was recommended to start a SARMS cycle. After some research it seems I need to focus on cutting down to <15% body fat before looking into anything extra. I found a few threads talking about the Evolution Diet (ketogenic diet) and several people seemed to add GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine).
I was referred to SARMS1.com and I took advantage of the buy 2 get one free deal on both GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine). After reading this thread it seems people are also taking MK-2866 (Ostarine); is this necessary or recommended? If so how much do I need?
Finally, being new to all of this, I want to make sure I am taking all of the additional supplements as well. I thought it was just as simple as taking the recommended doses of GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine) for 12 weeks and be good. But then I ended up reading a dizzying amount of information, I am more confused than ever. I have already purchased the GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine) and want to make sure I am getting the most benefit out of it, as well as taking everything I need to to ensure I am doing this in the safest way possible.
Any advise is appreciated. I plan on doing a 12 week log of whatever is eventually recommended.
Thank you very much in advance,
-Ray
My brain hurts and I just cannot read any more. I need to actually just ask my questions and hope you do not get too annoyed at potential repetitive questions. I have been reading threads here and evolutionary.org; based on my stats (36 years old, 5' 8", 223 lbs, +20% body fat, can post pics if needed) I was recommended to start a SARMS cycle. After some research it seems I need to focus on cutting down to <15% body fat before looking into anything extra. I found a few threads talking about the Evolution Diet (ketogenic diet) and several people seemed to add GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine).
I was referred to SARMS1.com and I took advantage of the buy 2 get one free deal on both GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine). After reading this thread it seems people are also taking MK-2866 (Ostarine); is this necessary or recommended? If so how much do I need?
Finally, being new to all of this, I want to make sure I am taking all of the additional supplements as well. I thought it was just as simple as taking the recommended doses of GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine) for 12 weeks and be good. But then I ended up reading a dizzying amount of information, I am more confused than ever. I have already purchased the GW-501516 (Cardarine) and S4 (Andarine) and want to make sure I am getting the most benefit out of it, as well as taking everything I need to to ensure I am doing this in the safest way possible.
Any advise is appreciated. I plan on doing a 12 week log of whatever is eventually recommended.
Thank you very much in advance,
-Ray
yes you can... im just not a fan of it... it made me way too dark and it also made me throw up EVERY time i took it... even at moderate to low doses... it was almost instant too... it really sucked and was not worth it at all... you can run them together, i just really don't like mt2... the one thing i did like was the libido increase... it was really strong in that aspect as well but there is no way i would ever use it again...
here you go...
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 D-Spark n2bm.com
1-12 Yohimflame n2bm.com
3-7 9-12 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
Dylan,
After reading about HcGenerate and HcGenerate ES, I think I definitely want to give them a go in rotation. Yohimflam, however, seems a little to gimmicky for me and I think I will pass on this one as I am not looking for spot reduction anyhow.
What I do not understand is Albuterol and D-Spark. Doesn't HcGenerrate do everything D-Spark says it does? As to Albuterol, I have no idea what it does or what benifit it will have, the site gives no information, assuming you are suggesting LiquiAlbut. Could you give me some info on this one?
gimmicky?? you can't be serious... that's your loss bro...
dspark is completely different... here's an article i wrote on it... Why I LOVE D-Spark - Evolutionary.org
also, its unlikely to have aromatizing with sarms but ostarine has done it to some so you don't need a full ai, but the ai properties dspark has is excellent AMONGST many other benefits...
watch my video on albuterol... Dylan Gemelli talks on Albuterol vs. Clenbuterol - YouTube
Yes I can be serious about MY Opinion. Secondly, what exactly am I losing out on here? I did not come here looking for a miracle spot fat loss spray. In fact, assuming it actually works it would not assist me anyhow as I am well over 20% body fat. I am looking to lose total body fat, not get rid of the last stubborn belly/thigh fat; it's not like I'm going to bath in the stuff.
I will stick with the Cardarine and Andarine for now and will be starting my 12 week log tomorrow. I sincerely hope you follow it as I am using your products.
Do as you will man... As i said previously, its your loss... I hope you achieve your goals... Work hard and utilize the sarms and you will make progress...
How are you doing guys?
Finally, I also received my SARMS1 stuff! But it seems, that the goods are frozen (due to the very low temperature in the plane or something like that). Just one of them didn't freeze, but I didn't open the bottle for evaluate which subtance it was.
My question: Are the molecules damaged? Will the SARM still work?
Thanks in advance guys.
By the way: Operation Pangea starts at 26th of march and ends at the 4th of april 2014. Watch out guys!
Finally, I also received my SARMS1 stuff! But it seems, that the goods are frozen (due to the very low temperature in the plane or something like that). Just one of them didn't freeze, but I didn't open the bottle for evaluate which subtance it was.
My question: Are the molecules damaged? Will the SARM still work?
Thanks in advance guys.
By the way: Operation Pangea starts at 26th of march and ends at the 4th of april 2014. Watch out guys!
Hey guys, I just received my cutting stack of S4 and GW and they came in unmarked blue glass bottles with the dropper top. Sealed but just want to see if anyone else received their order in similar containers with no labels. GW is the creamy looking pink stuff and S4 is the greenish one? I ordered from SARMS1 so it should be 20mg/ml for GW and 50mg/ml for S4 as per site and info on here? Appreciate the help before I start it.
Everything sounds correct. Colors of SARMs, blue bottle and sealed dropper. But I got mine last Friday and they have white labels on them. Out of curiosity, where were your orders shipped from?
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Ya everything sounds good to go man. Mine came from Vegas last Friday and everything sounds like the same exact stuff I ordered. But ya, the labels would really bug me too. But they aren't exactly an extremely large pharma company, so I could easily see a label being missed here and there. Who knows, maybe they ran out of labels. When you aren't a huge company those things happen too because it's hard to predict how many future orders you will get while staying within revenue. Lmao working at Sonic when I was a teen we'd run out of hamburger buns because we were off on inventory that week...
But ya, definitely see what customer service has to say. At the very least they can confirm your oder to validate the product and explain why the labels were missed. At least that would take the worry away.
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I know the owner personally and I can tell you that customer service is number one for him. He pushes out high-quality products and works tirelessly to make sure the reputation of his company is that of a top-notch company which they have become and there are countless logs and countless customer feedback backing that up.
Lol I keep forgetting not everyone on this board is in the US. I didn't know they won't label international orders either. Good to know man.
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Yes it is common knowledge as its been posted SEVERAL times... This ensures a safe pass through customs
Hello! think im gonna try this
1: 8 weeks with ostarine 25mg day
8 w with gw 20 mg day
edit: how do I know which is which when there is no label ?
but the thing is im living in sweden and dont wanna risk to ship to much.
i had tried sarms1 before so i know thats is legit.
but that about mini pct? is it ok just for me to take a "normal" testobooster from here?
or it wont work at all? or shall i start with that from week 5?
1: 8 weeks with ostarine 25mg day
8 w with gw 20 mg day
edit: how do I know which is which when there is no label ?
but the thing is im living in sweden and dont wanna risk to ship to much.
i had tried sarms1 before so i know thats is legit.
but that about mini pct? is it ok just for me to take a "normal" testobooster from here?
or it wont work at all? or shall i start with that from week 5?
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sarms 1 ships to sweden just fine man... they ship their often...
on cycle, use hcgenerate weeks 1-8... for your mini pct use hcgenerate es or the unleashed/post cycle combo... you can get these at Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding...
yes run it through the entire cycle...
to ship international they remove the labels to pass customs... you can tell the difference by liquid color
gw = red
s4 = green
mk = blue
lgd = yellow
yes sir! Thanks again! and one more question lol,
i had ordered 3 botles of osta
and 3 of gw (coz 1 free on both )
and to do the best of it, shall i example do one cycle with only osta? or like only 6weeks on gw and 8 weeks on osta?
coz it last longer on osta, (dont got more money to spend the rest for hcg )
if u understand what im thinking here
i had ordered 3 botles of osta
and 3 of gw (coz 1 free on both )
and to do the best of it, shall i example do one cycle with only osta? or like only 6weeks on gw and 8 weeks on osta?
coz it last longer on osta, (dont got more money to spend the rest for hcg )
if u understand what im thinking here
yes sir! Thanks again! and one more question lol,
i had ordered 3 botles of osta
and 3 of gw (coz 1 free on both )
and to do the best of it, shall i example do one cycle with only osta? or like only 6weeks on gw and 8 weeks on osta?
coz it last longer on osta, (dont got more money to spend the rest for hcg )
if u understand what im thinking here
i don't design cycles to "save money" bro... that's not how you do it... you run it like it SHOULD be ran...
run them both for 12 weeks together... that's the most effective way...
alright! just wanted to know the most effetive way to use them! and now let the gains begin lol
this is not a poor hobby
Furinkazan
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Just wanted to say thanks and massive respect to Dylan for all the time he has spent answering questions.
I have now ordered from sarms1 and cannot wait to start my cycle - I wouldn't have been able to do that so easily without this thread and Dylan's help via PM. Thanks again.
I have now ordered from sarms1 and cannot wait to start my cycle - I wouldn't have been able to do that so easily without this thread and Dylan's help via PM. Thanks again.
Just wanted to say thanks and massive respect to Dylan for all the time he has spent answering questions.
I have now ordered from sarms1 and cannot wait to start my cycle - I wouldn't have been able to do that so easily without this thread and Dylan's help via PM. Thanks again.
i really appreciate the acknowledgement and i am always happy to help bro...
Furinkazan
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I'm considering starting a log as well.
Hey Dylan
Nice thread! Listen buddy, I've ordered some MK, LGD and GW. But the LGD and GW have a strange consistency. MK is clear and I can see through the bottle. But at LGD and GW...
Imagine you press a fresh orange. So there are a lot of pulp in the juice. It looks like that.
I've uploaded two pics (in the fist one, you will see on the left side MK, middle LGD and right GW. On picture two you see GW only (with its odd consistency)).
postimg [dot] org/gallery/1eshljctg/
Thanks in advance guys (and Dylan )
Nice thread! Listen buddy, I've ordered some MK, LGD and GW. But the LGD and GW have a strange consistency. MK is clear and I can see through the bottle. But at LGD and GW...
Imagine you press a fresh orange. So there are a lot of pulp in the juice. It looks like that.
I've uploaded two pics (in the fist one, you will see on the left side MK, middle LGD and right GW. On picture two you see GW only (with its odd consistency)).
postimg [dot] org/gallery/1eshljctg/
Thanks in advance guys (and Dylan
)
Hey Dylan
Nice thread! Listen buddy, I've ordered some MK, LGD and GW. But the LGD and GW have a strange consistency. MK is clear and I can see through the bottle. But at LGD and GW...
Imagine you press a fresh orange. So there are a lot of pulp in the juice. It looks like that.
I've uploaded two pics (in the fist one, you will see on the left side MK, middle LGD and right GW. On picture two you see GW only (with its odd consistency)).
postimg [dot] org/gallery/1eshljctg/
Thanks in advance guys (and Dylan
bro, i really wish you would have at least attempted to use your search bar before posting this... you didn't even make an attempt... the gw molecule is much thicker and the consistency is FAR different than the others... since it is much thicker than the others, it obviously comes in a way that does not go along with the others... this is how its supposed to be... this has been gone over so many times... please at least attempt to look next time...
no problem bro... also, read my sarms articles here... Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org
northernknight
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Hey there Brother, hope you are having a great spring!
As an outcome from several different situations, I've had to change up my planned spring/summer cycle several times now, most reasons being related to my HRT, which is naturally very important to me. So I will rather wait that everything is in order before executing any intense AAS blasts that I had planned, and instead go mostly SARMs this time around. Tren can wait, I'm not in a rush to do things ;-)
I've done pretty many rounds with SARMs, and especially with GW in past, but I thought I woul still run this through you (who else?, LOL!) ;-)
Anyways, this is how I'm planning to run this (better expression would be something like this, I usually tend to change and tweak things along the way. Also, I just started, so now is the beginning of week one):
LGD-4033 @ 10 mgs ED WK 1-12
S-4 @ 50 mgs ED WK 1-12
GW-50 @ 20 mgs ED WK 1-14
Epistane @ 40 mgs ED WK 7-12
Furazan @ 200 mgs ED WK 7-12
Halodrol @ 50 mgs ED WK 7-12
Liquidex AI and/or Formestane as needed (I'll be running bloods for TRT on regular basis, so I will be aware where my E2 levels are)
TRT dose of Nebido indefinitely, and I might use small doses of NPP if Epi dries up my joints too much.
I'm also using Unleashed almost continuously, Hcgenerate /ES from time to time, and loads of other supplements, vitamins, minerals, and different herbal extracts etc. Of course while on orals required support supps will also be used.
Goal is recomp with emphasis on cutting, I have enough size ATM. Just want to keep as much of it as possible while leaning down. Couple of questions on how I should proceed with this.
What do you think about running LGD 14 or 16 weeks time? I respond extremely well to LGD, which is why I probably won't bump the dose upwards this time.
What about 14 or 16 weeks on S-4?
Do you see any other problem besides body getting used to them, in which case I would of course have to just drop that substance and cycle it off for change?
With S-4 I will likely raise the dose at least to 75 mgs, once I see how strong the synergistic effect between everything is (experimentally I've gone as high as 125 mgs ED, finishing up with few days on 150 mgs ED of S-4, and side effects were still completely manageable, so I guess I'm lucky. Once I FINALLY got my hands on quality S-4, I fell in love with it!, LOL!) I would love to run SARMs long enough for them to overlap orals for a month, I believe that it would produce great results...
Of course I'm open to all suggestions, and sorry for the long ass post...
BTW. All SARMs are from S1, so I know I will get results. After trying them out, I now accept only the best. Seriously got to love those guys!
As an outcome from several different situations, I've had to change up my planned spring/summer cycle several times now, most reasons being related to my HRT, which is naturally very important to me. So I will rather wait that everything is in order before executing any intense AAS blasts that I had planned, and instead go mostly SARMs this time around. Tren can wait, I'm not in a rush to do things ;-)
I've done pretty many rounds with SARMs, and especially with GW in past, but I thought I woul still run this through you (who else?, LOL!) ;-)
Anyways, this is how I'm planning to run this (better expression would be something like this, I usually tend to change and tweak things along the way. Also, I just started, so now is the beginning of week one):
LGD-4033 @ 10 mgs ED WK 1-12
S-4 @ 50 mgs ED WK 1-12
GW-50 @ 20 mgs ED WK 1-14
Epistane @ 40 mgs ED WK 7-12
Furazan @ 200 mgs ED WK 7-12
Halodrol @ 50 mgs ED WK 7-12
Liquidex AI and/or Formestane as needed (I'll be running bloods for TRT on regular basis, so I will be aware where my E2 levels are)
TRT dose of Nebido indefinitely, and I might use small doses of NPP if Epi dries up my joints too much.
I'm also using Unleashed almost continuously, Hcgenerate /ES from time to time, and loads of other supplements, vitamins, minerals, and different herbal extracts etc. Of course while on orals required support supps will also be used.
Goal is recomp with emphasis on cutting, I have enough size ATM. Just want to keep as much of it as possible while leaning down. Couple of questions on how I should proceed with this.
What do you think about running LGD 14 or 16 weeks time? I respond extremely well to LGD, which is why I probably won't bump the dose upwards this time.
What about 14 or 16 weeks on S-4?
Do you see any other problem besides body getting used to them, in which case I would of course have to just drop that substance and cycle it off for change?
With S-4 I will likely raise the dose at least to 75 mgs, once I see how strong the synergistic effect between everything is (experimentally I've gone as high as 125 mgs ED, finishing up with few days on 150 mgs ED of S-4, and side effects were still completely manageable, so I guess I'm lucky. Once I FINALLY got my hands on quality S-4, I fell in love with it!, LOL!) I would love to run SARMs long enough for them to overlap orals for a month, I believe that it would produce great results...
Of course I'm open to all suggestions, and sorry for the long ass post...
BTW. All SARMs are from S1, so I know I will get results. After trying them out, I now accept only the best. Seriously got to love those guys!
the only one i would exceed 12 weeks on is gw bro... you can run it up to 14 weeks... you don't want your body to start adapting and also don't want to cause unnecessary suppression when all you have to do is take about 4 weeks off and then jump back on them again... it doesn't make sense to just keep running them... its not a wise move in any way... do it right and you can actually run them much longer...
have you seen the new gk prohormones? why not run oxandrovar instead of buying all three separate like you are? its a much better product as well and your getting WAY more for your money... just something to think about...
stick with 12 weeks, take off 4 and then jump back on... take advantage of the buy 2 get 1 free sale at sarms1 as well...
northernknight
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That's what though, and what how I've always done it, just though I will check it from you to make sure... I love SARMs way too much to risk getting used them/adaptation, LOL! Supperession is not really problem in my case since I'm on HRT for life anyway, but even with that out of the equation you are absolutely right.
I will adjust doses as needed along the way and keep LGD & S-4 at 12 weeks.
If the GK line will be available in Europe by some retailer in future, I'm sure I will try them out, but importing them here myself just is not a possible option... Importing supplements outside of EU can be extremely complicated, and in some cases end with conviction from various charges (a thing I know way more than I would like to...).
I already used Sarms1 BOGO deal few times, so I have everything (and more than) I need for this run, LOL!! I've been trough half a dozen SARMs/RC companies, some of which have been great in many ways, but none of them have managed to come even close to SARMS1. I've done this for years, so I'm not very easily impressed, but the way S1 has handled everything just blew me away. I admit I was quite doubfull when they first appeared, but I always want to give companies a shot to form my own opion on them from, and from SARMS1 I have nothing but positive things to say. Even with the unbelieveable customs we have in this country, everything has worked out just great!
Thanks bro, if I still think of something I will hit you up again.
thats great bro... should be a very nice cycle... keep us updated on your results..
ShutUpAndTrain7
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Are SARMS safe for women to take to increase endurance and aid in some fat loss? If so, I'm guessing GW and Osta would be her best choices? Thanks...
Yes they are used by many women... They can all be used and the triple stack is best for fat loss
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ShutUpAndTrain7
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Awesome thanks. What kind of PCT would a women need with that triple stack?
ShutUpAndTrain7
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Even better! must be nice to be a women then! lol
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