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paul allen
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I started using ALCAR and R-ALA post cycle last cycle, and just continue it all the time. The benefits of these two compounds have been widely reputed to reverse most ageing characteristics in rats, and it is currently undergoing clinical trials. It is often marketed as an anti-ageing formula.
Regardless of this they are both powerful anti-oxidents and there can be no harm in taking them.
Recently I read this study from the journal of Urology (April 2004), which indicates that ALCAR has its place in PCT and generally when off the juice.
I know the study says testosterone levels were not effected but since it makes your erection strong and your mood elevated, better thatn exogenous test does!!!, and it can help you stop feeling depressed post cycle and also disguise the post cycle crash to your girlfriend (usually I used cialis for first 2 weeks, just to avoid any imbarressment). I also believe that if your happy and sexually active then that carries over to heavier weights in the gym.
Here is the abstract of the study:
Carnitine versus androgen administration in the treatment of sexual dysfunction, depressed mood, and fatigue associated with male aging*1 G. Cavallini , a, S. Caracciolo b, G. Vitali a, F. Modenini a and G. Biagiotti c
Abstract
Objectives
To compare testosterone undecanoate versus propionyl--carnitine plus acetyl--carnitine and placebo in the treatment of male aging symptoms.
Methods
A total of 120 patients were randomized into three groups. The mean patient age was 66 years (range 60 to 74). Group 1 was given testosterone undecanoate 160 mg/day, the second group was given propionyl--carnitine 2 g/day plus acetyl--carnitine 2 g/day. The third group was given a placebo (starch). Drugs and placebo were given for 6 months. The assessed variables were total prostate-specific antigen, prostate volume, peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index of cavernosal penile arteries, nocturnal penile tumescence, total and free testosterone, prolactin, luteinizing hormone, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, fatigue scale score, and incidence of side effects. The assessment was performed at intervals before, during, and after therapy.
Results
Testosterone and carnitines significantly improved the peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index, nocturnal penile tumescence, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, and fatigue scale score. Carnitines proved significantly more active than testosterone in improving nocturnal penile tumescence and International Index of Erectile Function score. Testosterone significantly increased the prostate volume and free and total testosterone levels and significantly lowered serum luteinizing hormone; carnitines did not. No drug significantly modified prostate-specific antigen or prolactin. Carnitines and testosterone proved effective for as long as they were administered, with suspension provoking a reversal to baseline values. Only the group 1 prostate volume proved significantly greater than baseline 6 months after testosterone suspension. Placebo administration proved ineffective. Negligible side effects emerged.
Conclusions
Testosterone and, especially, carnitines proved to be active drugs for the therapy of symptoms associated with male aging.
I don't know if its the placebo effect or not (and I don't really care), but since using it I'm sure my erections are more powerful and strong. They often feel like I've popped a cialis when I haven't.
Regardless of this they are both powerful anti-oxidents and there can be no harm in taking them.
Recently I read this study from the journal of Urology (April 2004), which indicates that ALCAR has its place in PCT and generally when off the juice.
I know the study says testosterone levels were not effected but since it makes your erection strong and your mood elevated, better thatn exogenous test does!!!, and it can help you stop feeling depressed post cycle and also disguise the post cycle crash to your girlfriend (usually I used cialis for first 2 weeks, just to avoid any imbarressment). I also believe that if your happy and sexually active then that carries over to heavier weights in the gym.
Here is the abstract of the study:
Carnitine versus androgen administration in the treatment of sexual dysfunction, depressed mood, and fatigue associated with male aging*1 G. Cavallini , a, S. Caracciolo b, G. Vitali a, F. Modenini a and G. Biagiotti c
Abstract
Objectives
To compare testosterone undecanoate versus propionyl--carnitine plus acetyl--carnitine and placebo in the treatment of male aging symptoms.
Methods
A total of 120 patients were randomized into three groups. The mean patient age was 66 years (range 60 to 74). Group 1 was given testosterone undecanoate 160 mg/day, the second group was given propionyl--carnitine 2 g/day plus acetyl--carnitine 2 g/day. The third group was given a placebo (starch). Drugs and placebo were given for 6 months. The assessed variables were total prostate-specific antigen, prostate volume, peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index of cavernosal penile arteries, nocturnal penile tumescence, total and free testosterone, prolactin, luteinizing hormone, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, fatigue scale score, and incidence of side effects. The assessment was performed at intervals before, during, and after therapy.
Results
Testosterone and carnitines significantly improved the peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index, nocturnal penile tumescence, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, and fatigue scale score. Carnitines proved significantly more active than testosterone in improving nocturnal penile tumescence and International Index of Erectile Function score. Testosterone significantly increased the prostate volume and free and total testosterone levels and significantly lowered serum luteinizing hormone; carnitines did not. No drug significantly modified prostate-specific antigen or prolactin. Carnitines and testosterone proved effective for as long as they were administered, with suspension provoking a reversal to baseline values. Only the group 1 prostate volume proved significantly greater than baseline 6 months after testosterone suspension. Placebo administration proved ineffective. Negligible side effects emerged.
Conclusions
Testosterone and, especially, carnitines proved to be active drugs for the therapy of symptoms associated with male aging.
I don't know if its the placebo effect or not (and I don't really care), but since using it I'm sure my erections are more powerful and strong. They often feel like I've popped a cialis when I haven't.
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