Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have a very high metabolism and have had a problem with gaining/maintaining weight my whole life. An associate of mine suggested a quick cycle of d-bol/winnie to bulk and cut. Is this solid advice or is there a better cycle/solution? His suggested cycle was 5 weeks. I've never done a cycle before and don't want to rush into something without knowin if it's good advice or not. I especially want to know what I'm doin.
Advice??????
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dark-knight
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dbol and winny would not be ideal for a first cycle. you could do a dbol only cycle but imo you would benefit more from a low dose of test for 12 weeks at 250 - 350mg /week.
stats - age , how tall, weight, diet and training history???
stats - age , how tall, weight, diet and training history???
Smart man. I can tell by this post that youre not ready to take the plunge, but that doesnt mean you wont be with some time and research.
You mention you have trouble gaining weight. What are your stats and training experience?
Oh and I repeat, dont do this cycle.
Ok sorry for leavin this out in my original posting, I'm 35 6' 1" 153lbs. The most I ever weighed was 190 but I always drop back to 153-158. I've been this weight since I was 15. I used to train 3 days a week have just got back to training. so far just cardio and alot of runnin, push-ups ,dips, pull-ups would love to get to a nice solid/cut 225lbs.....thanks in advance guys
Endlesscutting
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forget about a cycle. what you need to do is FORGET THE CARDIO ! Eat a whole lot more and lift 5 times a week breaking the body parts up. You should be thinking FOOD FOOD FOOD , WEIGHTS WEIGHTS WEIGHTS, SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP. Supplements , use creatine to help put some water weight on and start helping stretch the muscle bellies, protein powders ( high calorie ones that taste awesome ), multi-vitamin, fish oil , SHIT LOADS OF WATER & CLEAN FOOD
do this for a while and tell us if you have been able to gain weight or not, i gurantee you will have otherwise you are not eating enough.
do this for a while and tell us if you have been able to gain weight or not, i gurantee you will have otherwise you are not eating enough.
stop the cardio!
eat a lot of clean food, and unclean since you have a fast metabolism.
start a solid training split. chest monday, back tuesday, shoulders, legs etc. diet 3000+cals a day
300 grams of protein. good fats, and moderate carbs.
you need more than push ups and pull ups to gain weight. that's a start.
eat a lot of clean food, and unclean since you have a fast metabolism.
start a solid training split. chest monday, back tuesday, shoulders, legs etc. diet 3000+cals a day
300 grams of protein. good fats, and moderate carbs.
you need more than push ups and pull ups to gain weight. that's a start.
You should work on your diet and training before doing aas. I bet you're eating 1800cals and you should absolutely avoid cardio if you're a "hard gainer - aka doesn't know how to eat". You should work your way up to about 4k calories, weght train 4 times a week, avoid cardio and then jump on aas. Firt cycle should look something like 500 test and 400 deca/week. You also have to keep in mind that getting to a cut 225 which is about 7-8% BF will take a lot of time and dedication and id hate to say it but may not be achievable at your age considering your current stats.
