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Advice for a weight gain diet

VictorZ06

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Hi all,

I'm a newbie here and I looking for some advice on a weight gain diet to go along with my AS cycle. I'm going to take some protien bars, weight gain shakes and whey shakes and I'm going to try and eat 6 meals a day. I am 25 years old, 5' 10", and weigh 150lbs. I have a crazy high metabolism and very little luck keeping weight that I gain. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
/Victor
 
forget all those bars, you will get better cals from whole foods. if you have a hard time keeping gains then just upp your intake by 500,700,1000cals a day. 1000cals isnt hard at all. thats just a few huge scoops of penut butter.
 
VictorZ06 said:
Hi all,

I'm a newbie here and I looking for some advice on a weight gain diet to go along with my AS cycle. I'm going to take some protien bars, weight gain shakes and whey shakes and I'm going to try and eat 6 meals a day. I am 25 years old, 5' 10", and weigh 150lbs. I have a crazy high metabolism and very little luck keeping weight that I gain. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
/Victor

at your weight, i would try to take in 3750 cals a day at least. depending on what dosages of AS you're taking you may want to raise that amount. shoot for at least 1.5g of protein/lb so you'd want at least 225g protein/day. eat big, get big.
 
i didnt read you were using as...so throw my advice out the window, i dont know anything about that stuff...you gotta eat way more then i was telling you i assume.
 
Forget the bars and powders, spend the money on food. Just curious, why are you gonna use gear when you weigh 150 pounds? I guarantee you that if you eat enough you will be able to put on atleast 30 pounds in the next 6 months. Set your alarm and eat cheeseburgers in the middle of the night. You are ectomorphic from your description, eat everything you can then eat more. You won't gain a lot of fat. You don't need juice, you need to eat. I was about 170 when I started at 6"1-6"2. I am now 230 and have never touched a drug. Eat!
 
AlbinoAssassin said:
Forget the bars and powders, spend the money on food. Just curious, why are you gonna use gear when you weigh 150 pounds? I guarantee you that if you eat enough you will be able to put on atleast 30 pounds in the next 6 months. Set your alarm and eat cheeseburgers in the middle of the night. You are ectomorphic from your description, eat everything you can then eat more. You won't gain a lot of fat. You don't need juice, you need to eat. I was about 170 when I started at 6"1-6"2. I am now 230 and have never touched a drug. Eat!

I decided to use AS because all else has failed for me. I took weight gain shakes, whey drinks, had 5 meals a day, etc....nothing worked. I actually used to wake up in the middle of the night and grill steaks. I could not gain any more weight...I just burn it all off. I wake up lighter...it's madness!! Like Steven Kings "Thinner" lol

Thanks again for the advice guys!!
 
try eating a jar of penut butter, its over 3000 cals and its my personal cheat food :) you will gain if you eat. please post your diet, your not eating enough, hold off on the as for 1 month, in that month up your calories by a HUGE amount. see how many cals you can eat in a day. you WILL GAIN WEIGHT.
 
VictorZ06 said:


I decided to use AS because all else has failed for me. I took weight gain shakes, whey drinks, had 5 meals a day, etc....nothing worked. I actually used to wake up in the middle of the night and grill steaks. I could not gain any more weight...I just burn it all off. I wake up lighter...it's madness!! Like Steven Kings "Thinner" lol

Thanks again for the advice guys!!

Post your diet for us. I know a few people like you who have a very fast metabolism, they also didn't seem to eat much either though. I have never seen any of them pack the food away. They always say they aren't hungry. You might be different, but I would like to see your diet. Forget the shakes eat real food, I guarantee you it will make a difference. Even if you do juice if you aren't eating enough it won't help. I use to think I was eating and couldn't understand why I wasn't getting bigger. You have to eat more than you see reason to eat. Until a guy that weighed 250 put me on a diet I had no idea what it took to get big. Now I have put on 25 solid pounds since May.
 
albino i have the opposite problem, when i see a huge jar of penut butter i dont see a few weeks of snacking...i see a damn tempting meal :), i couldnt sleep so i got up and ate 1/2 the jar :( im off to the gym in about an hour and im gonna hit cardio for a LONG LONG LONG time. i have to moderate myself, i wanna stay at 8% till the end of summer, at least my cheat food has good fats in it right :)
 
eurorides said:
albino i have the opposite problem, when i see a huge jar of penut butter i dont see a few weeks of snacking...i see a damn tempting meal :), i couldnt sleep so i got up and ate 1/2 the jar :( im off to the gym in about an hour and im gonna hit cardio for a LONG LONG LONG time. i have to moderate myself, i wanna stay at 8% till the end of summer, at least my cheat food has good fats in it right :)

Sorry to hear about the peanut butter addiction, it can be a tough one to kick! I have been known to punish some Pb, it's pretty much without consequence though. Yes, it does have good fats in it (that was an attempt to make you feel better). Good luck on the cardio. PB for life.
 
OK my diet usually looks something like this...I have an allergy to most raw fruits and vegetables so...I have to avoid those

7:00am
waffles or pancakes with bacon or sausage
vanilla shake....2 ice cream scoops 1 egg and milk
large OJ
4-5 slices of salami or other deli meat
slice of pound cake or doughnut or bagel

11:00am
1 bagel or 2 doughnuts
1 bowl of oatmeal, or farina, or cereal
small bag of raisins & or peanuts, or pistachios


1:00pm (lunch)
hamburger with fries, or steak, or pasta with meat sauce, or raost beef sandwich
blueberry muffin, or brownies, or chocalte chip cookies (from meetings at work)
fries, or mashed potatos, or rice
kettle fried patato chips
bar of chocolate
large OJ

5:00pm (same as 1pm)
hamburger with fries, or steak, or pasta with meat sauce, or raost beef sandwich
blueberry muffin, or brownies, or chocalte chip cookies (from meetings at work)
fries, or mashed potatos, or rice
kettle fried patato chips
bar of chocolate
large OJ

9:00pm (my biggest meal)
Large steak, or dark meat chicken pices (5), or racks of ribs (2)
corn, or peas, or sting beans,
1/2 loaf of bread (almost)
always a type of potato, sometimes with rice
ice cream or milk shake
kettlecorn popcorn or chocolate

11:30pm (before bed)
2 hot dogs (on the foreman grill)
peanut butter and jelly sandwich or salami sandwich
cookies, or more ice cream


I also wake up in the middle of the night and eat leftovers or some kind of snack. I do this every night. I try and force myself to eat as often as I can. I know it's not the best diet....I started eating foods with more calories and fat. My doc last told me I have a body fat of under 10% and my cholestrol was 147...he said all is good and one day all the food I eat will catch up with me. I was told this when I was 18 and trying to add weight!
 
Holy shit. Your diet is horrible. Prior to looking at what you eat I was going to say most skinny guys who say their metabolism is too fast, just don't have an appitite. They think 1500 calories a day is eating like a horse. They actually don't have much of a metabolism at all. You on the other hand sound like you have a hyperactive thyroid. Go to your doctor and have your thyroid tested. Bear in mind, most of the junk food calories you are eating will contribute little to gains in muscle mass. You are probably malnurished, despite your food intake, because you eat nothing of quality. Plus alot of the garbage in the food you are eating can block the absorbsion of vital nutrients. There is no way you are allergic to most vegetables. If you were allergic to fructose (rather than a specific fruit) you wouldn't be able to eat fruits. However the allergy you described is extremely rare. You are more likely to be struke by lightening... twice. Find out which vegetables you are allergic too, because you definately need alot more veggies in your diet.
 
allergy

yea..my allergy is kinda messed up, both my sister and grandmother are the same way...my sisiter is much worste then me. If i cook the fruits or vegetables, I'm ok. I can eat bananas, melon, coconuts, grapes, and a few other fruits. I can't eat tomatoes, apples, peaches, plums, rassberries (i can eat blueberries though), almonds, walnuts. All that happens is that I get blisters in my mouth and on my throught for a few hrs. It's still a royal pain in the ass because it got worste as I grew up. My diet wasn't all that bad until I tried eating foods that had calories in them. I am now doing my homework and am going to make a few changes...big ones. Thanks!!
 
wow, you need to cut out all those hamburgers... thats horrible for you. replace the hamburger and french fries with a couple of cans of tuna or a big turkey sandwich.... not only will this help out the nutrition part, it will keep your wallet more bulky :) .... you should pretty much live off tuna, chicken, PB, milk.. hell anything but hamburgers
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Holy shit. Your diet is horrible. Prior to looking at what you eat I was going to say most skinny guys who say their metabolism is too fast, just don't have an appitite. They think 1500 calories a day is eating like a horse. They actually don't have much of a metabolism at all. You on the other hand sound like you have a hyperactive thyroid. Go to your doctor and have your thyroid tested. Bear in mind, most of the junk food calories you are eating will contribute little to gains in muscle mass. You are probably malnurished, despite your food intake, because you eat nothing of quality. Plus alot of the garbage in the food you are eating can block the absorbsion of vital nutrients. There is no way you are allergic to most vegetables. If you were allergic to fructose (rather than a specific fruit) you wouldn't be able to eat fruits. However the allergy you described is extremely rare. You are more likely to be struke by lightening... twice. Find out which vegetables you are allergic too, because you definately need alot more veggies in your diet.

I agree with pretty much everything he says. You are also going 4 hours between meals, that's going to really limit your weight gains. You need to be eating every 2 hours on the dot (or just don't stop all day long). Don't eat when you're hungry, eat when it's time to eat. Sometimes you have to force feed yourself. You will have to be very meticulous with your eating habits. Don't miss meals and eat more frequently. Try to eat more quality foods and then you can get away with eating all the junk on top of that. I have to eat some junk to get my cals high enough. You don't need to eat clean, you need to eat everything (including quality foods). Good luck bro!
 
Don't forget too...

If you haven't gained at all naturally, and you eat like that, the juice won't do SHIT for you... well other then make you stronger, and maybe add a little weight.. but you have to have your diet in check first before saucing. At least work it out so you are starting to gain...

1 amp of oil in your ass each week isn't going to put on the pounds. It is just there as an aid, or to assist the body to repair quicker, and assimilate more nutrience...

S.
 
StRoNg_WoN said:
Don't forget too...

If you haven't gained at all naturally, and you eat like that, the juice won't do SHIT for you... well other then make you stronger, and maybe add a little weight.. but you have to have your diet in check first before saucing. At least work it out so you are starting to gain...

1 amp of oil in your ass each week isn't going to put on the pounds. It is just there as an aid, or to assist the body to repair quicker, and assimilate more nutrience...

S.

That's what I'm talking about. Wait until your body can put it to use before you spend your money. It's not a substitute for proper nutrition and training. Unfortunately a lot of people think it is.
 
I deff want to make sure my diet is right before I start my cycle...that's why I am here. I will start eating every two hrs. and as often as I can during the middle of the night. I'll also start to eat a lot more tuna, chicken, turkey over burgers and fries. I'll try and snack on beanut butter with crackers with a large glass of milk. Will those protien bars be good to munch on throughout the day...aside from other food? Any other suggestion are greatly appreciated! Any suppliments/vitamins advised? Thanks again all!!

/Victor
 
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Toozee said:


Amen to that. eating in the middle of the night makes a huge difference!

I didn't start gaining weight until I started doing this. I was already eating 1,000g's of carbs a day and still wasn't gaining untl I started eating in the middle of the night. Gotta love that. For me it made all the difference.
 
victorzO6 said:
I deff want to make sure my diet is right before I start my cycle...that's why I am here. I will start eating every two hrs. and as often as I can during the middle of the night. I'll also start to eat a lot more tuna, chicken, turkey over burgers and fries. I'll try and snack on beanut butter with crackers with a large glass of milk. Will those protien bars be good to munch on throughout the day...aside from other food? Any other suggestion are greatly appreciated! Any suppliments/vitamins advised? Thanks again all!!

/Victor

That sounds better! Protein bars are fine as a snack, but remember most of them don't even have 300 calories. You need to be eating atleast 600 calories at every meal. Just make sure you don't become dependant on them. I would advise that you start using creatine, that will help with some strength and weight gains. Good luck bro!
 
ok your just like me on cant keep weight on!! im not on any as but the way i eat is anything i can thats clean i dont count cals i just eat clean until i am fool!!
 
MeatHead57 said:
ok your just like me on cant keep weight on!! im not on any as but the way i eat is anything i can thats clean i dont count cals i just eat clean until i am fool!!

I couldn't agree more... I too am one of those people...

The way I do it... I eat 600cals per sitting (give 'r take) and get in around 1.5 - 2g protein per Lb. of body weight... eat the protein part of the meal first... after that, eat as many carbs as you can till you're full... Do this every 2.5 - 3 hours until you go to bed... once sleeping, get up in the middle of the night, pound a shake, and go back to bed...

Stock up on toilet paper and air freshener... cuz you'll need it....

If THAT doesn't make you grow, then you're just weird... :) but seriously... if you EVER at ALL feel the SLIGHTEST hunger pang, you aren't eating enough...

Gotta feed the demon!!

S.
 
AlbinoAssassin said:


I didn't start gaining weight until I started doing this. I was already eating 1,000g's of carbs a day and still wasn't gaining untl I started eating in the middle of the night. Gotta love that. For me it made all the difference.


i even wake up for a small meal when im cutting, just a scoop of pb, or maybe 2 hard eggs, maybe 150-175 cals, i wake up with alot more energy, and weight comes off fine
 
eurorides said:



i even wake up for a small meal when im cutting, just a scoop of pb, or maybe 2 hard eggs, maybe 150-175 cals, i wake up with alot more energy, and weight comes off fine

I'll have to try that the next time I do a cutting phase. I never have a problem losing weight, that might help me maintain a little more muscle mass.
 
Before jumping into a diet, you must determine your ideal weight. This will be your guide on your weight loss journey. "Fast" weight loss doesn't imply that you drop 50 pounds overnight; a few pounds can take months to shed and for obese individuals, it can take years to lose the desired amount of weight. How fast you lose weight will depend on how focused you are on your diet.

Here are some simple steps to help you lose weight:

1. Before dieting, you must know how many calories you normally need in a day. If you are sedentary, multiply your weight (in pounds) by fifteen. If you are moderately active, multiply your weight by seventeen; if you are active, multiply your weight by twenty. This will give you the average calorie intake you need per day.

2. Remember to eat your fruits and veggies! You need at least five servings of them per day - doing this will put you on the right track to a healthy body, because fruits and vegetables have beneficial fibers, vitamins and antioxidants. They also fill up your stomach fast so that you don't overeat and take into many calories.

3. Monitor the quantity of food you eat. Avoid high-calorie foods and eat in small portions. A helpful tip is to chew your food slowly because this makes digestion easy on your body and you will also be less likely to overeat.

4. Don't skip meals. When you want to lose weight it may be tempting to starve yourself - but eating small amounts of food frequently can help you maintain a healthy, balanced calorie intake throughout the day. Also, your blood sugar level will be adversely affected if you don't eat often. You can even divide the standard allotment of three meals into five or six smaller meals.

5. Fresh fruits and vegetables are ideal - packaged and processed foods have high sodium and fat content. You are more likely to lose weight if you eat naturally fresh foods.

6. Don't limit your food intake too much. Go ahead and indulge yourself; eat your favorite treat. It's okay to have that slice of birthday cake at the occasional party. Just make sure to eat in moderation and use those special desserts as rewards, instead of enemies, to your weight loss experience.

7. Don't always believe everything you read on a food label. "Fat free" does not necessarily mean low calories. The same wisdom goes for foods that boast "low sugar" or "low carbs." Glance over the nutrition label - there you'll find the calorie count.

8. Try to limit the number of juices and sugary beverages you drink. Instead, drink eight glasses water a day - this flushes out your body's toxins and waste.

9. If possible, keep a food journal. This will help you keep track of your calorie intake and will be a daily reminder of the types of foods you need.

10. Don't forget to exercise! Thirty to sixty minutes of physical activity a day will ensure your health and help you lose weight (and not to mention, firm up those muscles). Weight-bearing exercises are especially great ways to burn those pesky calories.
 
Increasing your food intake – try eating larger portions, Include energy dense foods throughout your daily meals, eg, peanut butter or cheese on toast instead of marmite, milkshake instead of low fat milk, ice cream on fruit, avocado instead of cucumber, juice and milk instead of tea and coffee, Complan or Sustagen drink. Regular exercise is also important to help build muscles so that weight gain is not just fat.
 
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