A gram of Tren? Looking for advice.

[Trench]

I am hoping I do not get flamed too much for this post, but I am here looking for advice. First, here is a little about myself so you can get an understanding of my situation.

I am about to turn 29 and have been cycling for a long time, my entire adult life basically. I am more of a power lifter than bodybuilder, but try stay as lean as I can throughout the year. I have gotten to a point where I am just not responding to gear as I once did before. The cycles I run now are showing little to no results, and yes, my training and diet are on point. Because of this I am torn between bumping up the dosages I run even more.. or is it time for me to look into HGH and Slin to keep pushing my body to get bigger and stronger?

In between my cycles, I cruise on 300mg a week of Test C and take about 12 weeks off in between each cycle. Before my latest cycle, I took 6 months off and cruised on a normal TRT dosage of Test at 100mg every 5 days, thinking maybe I just needed to take a break and get my receptors refreshed. Then I ran 1000mg Test, and 800mg of EQ for 16 weeks, and added 800mg of Tren E the last 10 weeks. I also kicked that cycle with DBol. I leaned out nicely and strength increased, but put on only 2 pounds of muscle. That was with lifting heavy and consuming 5000+ calories per day. My BMR is around 4000 with the max activity level taken into consideration.

So here I am currently, cruising on 300mg of Test and trying to piece together my next cycle. I am thinking about going 1000mg of Test, 1000mg Tren, and 1000mg of short ester EQ for 12 weeks total, with DBol on the front end. But this is similar to what I ran my last cycle where I saw little muscle gain.

So what do you guys think? More Tren? Or is it time for something else like HGH and Slin. My is not an issue, so please let me know what you all think.

Thanks

 

[alcatraz1662]

I am hoping I do not get flamed too much for this post, but I am here looking for advice. First, here is a little about myself so you can get an understanding of my situation.

I am about to turn 29 and have been cycling for a long time, my entire adult life basically. I am more of a power lifter than bodybuilder, but try stay as lean as I can throughout the year. I have gotten to a point where I am just not responding to gear as I once did before. The cycles I run now are showing little to no results, and yes, my training and diet are on point. Because of this I am torn between bumping up the dosages I run even more.. or is it time for me to look into HGH and Slin to keep pushing my body to get bigger and stronger?

In between my cycles, I cruise on 300mg a week of Test C and take about 12 weeks off in between each cycle. Before my latest cycle, I took 6 months off and cruised on a normal TRT dosage of Test at 100mg every 5 days, thinking maybe I just needed to take a break and get my receptors refreshed. Then I ran 1000mg Test, and 800mg of EQ for 16 weeks, and added 800mg of Tren E the last 10 weeks. I also kicked that cycle with DBol. I leaned out nicely and strength increased, but put on only 2 pounds of muscle. That was with lifting heavy and consuming 5000+ calories per day. My BMR is around 4000 with the max activity level taken into consideration.

So here I am currently, cruising on 300mg of Test and trying to piece together my next cycle. I am thinking about going 1000mg of Test, 1000mg Tren, and 1000mg of short ester EQ for 12 weeks total, with DBol on the front end. But this is similar to what I ran my last cycle where I saw little muscle gain.

So what do you guys think? More Tren? Or is it time for something else like HGH and Slin. My is not an issue, so please let me know what you all think.

Thanks

that's alot of gear....i'll bump this for more experienced dudes w/ GH....just wondering, what are your PRs in the PL lifts? size height weight?

 

[stevesmi]

tren really doesn't need to be run more than 250mg a week.. anything more is wasting it and just gonna give you sides

anyone who claims they don't get sides off of tren are wrong. some of the sides like immune system suppression and gut flora destroying is not obvious initially but catches up to you eventually

 

[Trench]

alcatrazl662 - Thanks for the reply. I am just under 6' tall and weigh between 250-260. I have not maxed out in any lifts in quite some time, I don't think I could really give an accurate estimate. I can push 405 on the bench for a good 10 reps, and Squat that amount 20+ times.

Stevesmi - Thanks for the reply as well. I am sorry, but I am going to have to disagree with you on that one. 250mg weekly of Tren may be more than enough for a beginner, or someone that has a lot of room to grow, but that amount would do almost nothing for me when it comes to adding size at this point. I experience some sides with Tren, but I have learned to control them over the years. I mostly just suffer from nigh sweats and a little bit of road rage from time to time now. As far as what it can do to your immune system and libids; I agree, but for now I am fine. Thanks.

 

[Trench]

anyone?

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

sounds like you're gear is bunk to me

 

[Trench]

That is not the case

 

[mercury15]

the gear might be bunk, underdosed if you do not feel anything

I know people who took 1 g of tren a week but it is not for everybody, it is really big load. But most likely your gear will be underdosed and you think that you have 1 g but instead only half.

 

[Trench]

The gear is as legitimate as it gets.

 

[Mkingo]

GH time bro.

 

[Mkingo]

The reason I say that is I've heard and read that tren at doses that high is really only taken for CNS effects, and there is little additional anabolic value from doses that high. Sounds like you're experiencing the additional CNS effects but no anabolism. I suspect going for higher tren dosages is not the answer.

I have only gone as high as 500-600mg myself so can't speak from personal experience.

 

[ALIN]

I am hoping I do not get flamed too much for this post, but I am here looking for advice. First, here is a little about myself so you can get an understanding of my situation.

I am about to turn 29 and have been cycling for a long time, my entire adult life basically. I am more of a power lifter than bodybuilder, but try stay as lean as I can throughout the year. I have gotten to a point where I am just not responding to gear as I once did before. The cycles I run now are showing little to no results, and yes, my training and diet are on point. Because of this I am torn between bumping up the dosages I run even more.. or is it time for me to look into HGH and Slin to keep pushing my body to get bigger and stronger?

In between my cycles, I cruise on 300mg a week of Test C and take about 12 weeks off in between each cycle. Before my latest cycle, I took 6 months off and cruised on a normal TRT dosage of Test at 100mg every 5 days, thinking maybe I just needed to take a break and get my receptors refreshed. Then I ran 1000mg Test, and 800mg of EQ for 16 weeks, and added 800mg of Tren E the last 10 weeks. I also kicked that cycle with DBol. I leaned out nicely and strength increased, but put on only 2 pounds of muscle. That was with lifting heavy and consuming 5000+ calories per day. My BMR is around 4000 with the max activity level taken into consideration.

So here I am currently, cruising on 300mg of Test and trying to piece together my next cycle. I am thinking about going 1000mg of Test, 1000mg Tren, and 1000mg of short ester EQ for 12 weeks total, with DBol on the front end. But this is similar to what I ran my last cycle where I saw little muscle gain.

So what do you guys think? More Tren? Or is it time for something else like HGH and Slin. My is not an issue, so please let me know what you all think.

Thanks

Taking a look break and refreshing your receptors is a SUPER idea.
Do some research on HGH/SLIN,,,ITS AN EXTREMELY potent combo

 

[Trench]

Thank you for the replies guys. I have researched the GH/Slin combo for a long time now, so I think I have a good idea of the protocol I am going to do. Do you think with the combo added in, should I lower the dosage considerable, or keep them about the same. Thinking 750mg Test, 600mg Tren, and 800mg EQ shorter ester.

 

[RickRock13]

Thank you for the replies guys. I have researched the GH/Slin combo for a long time now, so I think I have a good idea of the protocol I am going to do. Do you think with the combo added in, should I lower the dosage considerable, or keep them about the same. Thinking 750mg Test, 600mg Tren, and 800mg EQ shorter ester.

Those doses should be fine with adding the slin and GH in. I would guess that would be more than enough to continue growth at a good pace

 

[Elvia1023]

Thank you for the replies guys. I have researched the GH/Slin combo for a long time now, so I think I have a good idea of the protocol I am going to do. Do you think with the combo added in, should I lower the dosage considerable, or keep them about the same. Thinking 750mg Test, 600mg Tren, and 800mg EQ shorter ester.

You would get much better results by adding in HGH and Slin with the lower aas doses. If you are not getting optimal results on approx 100mg tren per day you won't with say 150mg tren per day (same applies for all aas).

Although I have to add bigger doses should mean bigger results... common sense really. Plus some people require larger doses than others. I know guys who take a lot of tren and many of them once they get past the worst of the sides even huge doses of the drug are handled fine. Tren is a harsh drug and I recommend it left for 1 cycle per year... in contest prep for competitors (or before a powerlifting meet) or when regular guys want to be big and ripped for holiday etc.

I know a lot of guys who use 100-400mg tren a per day. That usually combined with 1-5g's of other anabolics too. If you don't look great on 100mg per day you won't look great on 400mg either. I could talk about this for ages but rushed for time now. Personally I find it hard to build size on tren as it makes me a fat burning machine. I usually take 50mg per day and even on that dose I can see the difference in days.

For your goals I would be looking at other anabolics such as deca. Added to some test and masteron for example. Look into test s pre workout for strength gains (adrol too).

 

[RickRock13]

You would get much better results by adding in HGH and Slin with the lower aas doses. If you are not getting optimal results on approx 100mg tren per day you won't with say 150mg tren per day (same applies for all aas).

Although I have to add bigger doses should mean bigger results... common sense really. Plus some people require larger doses than others. I know guys who take a lot of tren and many of them once they get past the worst of the sides even huge doses of the drug are handled fine. Tren is a harsh drug and I recommend it left for 1 cycle per year... in contest prep for competitors (or before a powerlifting meet) or when regular guys want to be big and ripped for holiday etc.

I know a lot of guys who use 100-400mg tren a per day. That usually combined with 1-5g's of other anabolics too. If you don't look great on 100mg per day you won't look great on 400mg either. I could talk about this for ages but rushed for time now. Personally I find it hard to build size on tren as it makes me a fat burning machine. I usually take 50mg per day and even on that dose I can see the difference in days.

For your goals I would be looking at other anabolics such as deca. Added to some test and masteron for example. Look into test s pre workout for strength gains (adrol too).

You know guys using 400mg Tren a per day? Wow....

 

[Elvia1023]

You know guys using 400mg Tren a per day? Wow....

Yeah... there are some mad people out there. Huge doses of tren are very common for certain competitors in the final weeks of contest prep. Tren is such a harsh drug though I can only imagine the damage that dose would do. The most I have done was 100mg per day and that was for about 2 weeks. Now I do 20-50mg per day. I know some bad abusers. 10 grams of test per week stands out. 500mg adrol per day. 900mg deca per day. 5 grams of test and 2 gs of tren and 1 g of eq etc. These are all mad doses I know guys have taken. It's mainly overkill but some guys are prepared to do it.

To the OP as I stated if you add the other stuff even if you wanted to 'abuse' I don't see the need in going over 100mg tren a per day ever. But as I stated it might be best having a break from tren for your goals. I would concentrate on test, nandrolone and adrol (that's if you didn't exaggerate about your leanness).

 

[gymrat827]

500 tes
500 tren
750 EQ

3iu of US GH
10iu slin (nolvalog)


that should more than enough for ANYONE to grow. no need for sky hi doses once slin comes into play.

Im with you on the 250/350mg of tren. Higher doses brings more gains + sides. Ive witnessed it in person......dont need to argue with anyone here about if or if not.

take some GW for the tren cardio sides, GH will helpout a ton with sleep and once you begin slin man, prepare for 1lb a wk gains. only go 7g carbs per 1iu slin.....10g carbs per 1iu slin is a ton of extra carbs that are not really needed. Also, taper up on it & only use 4x a wk.

 

[dylangemelli]

im sorry but this is just flat out wreckless.. im never going to argue with a very experienced user raising doses, but i wouldn't even advise a pro to run a gram of test and tren like that... you have clearly abused the shit out your steroid use to not be responding if your that certain that your gear is high quallity... i would switch to hgh before i ever ran that much gear... its one thing if your talking about something lighter to run it that high, but this is just ridiculous, im sorry... there are definitely a few circumstances where i would be all for huge doses, but they would involve having the opportunity to make millions... that's when some wrecklessness may be required but otherwise, i just don't get it whatsoever and the slin addition, although highly effective is also extremely dangerous and if you make the slightest mistake, it could be extremely bad... of course it works, don't ever get me wrong, it most certainly works but is it truly worth the risk? that's up to you to decide... i hate to see someone who is still very young to be doing this to themselves... it just makes no sense to me but its your life and body, you do as you will...

 

[hurricane]

I am hoping I do not get flamed too much for this post, but I am here looking for advice. First, here is a little about myself so you can get an understanding of my situation.

I am about to turn 29 and have been cycling for a long time, my entire adult life basically. I am more of a power lifter than bodybuilder, but try stay as lean as I can throughout the year. I have gotten to a point where I am just not responding to gear as I once did before. The cycles I run now are showing little to no results, and yes, my training and diet are on point. Because of this I am torn between bumping up the dosages I run even more.. or is it time for me to look into HGH and Slin to keep pushing my body to get bigger and stronger?

In between my cycles, I cruise on 300mg a week of Test C and take about 12 weeks off in between each cycle. Before my latest cycle, I took 6 months off and cruised on a normal TRT dosage of Test at 100mg every 5 days, thinking maybe I just needed to take a break and get my receptors refreshed. Then I ran 1000mg Test, and 800mg of EQ for 16 weeks, and added 800mg of Tren E the last 10 weeks. I also kicked that cycle with DBol. I leaned out nicely and strength increased, but put on only 2 pounds of muscle. That was with lifting heavy and consuming 5000+ calories per day. My BMR is around 4000 with the max activity level taken into consideration.

So here I am currently, cruising on 300mg of Test and trying to piece together my next cycle. I am thinking about going 1000mg of Test, 1000mg Tren, and 1000mg of short ester EQ for 12 weeks total, with DBol on the front end. But this is similar to what I ran my last cycle where I saw little muscle gain.

So what do you guys think? More Tren? Or is it time for something else like HGH and Slin. My is not an issue, so please let me know what you all think.

Thanks

First with the simple questions. are you SURE the gear is legit? How many cycles have you ran in the past to not repond at all to it>

 

[Trench]

Thank you guys for the replies.

Elvial2003 - I fell in love with Tren ago, so it is hard to not use it. Always thought about stacking it with Deca but never tried. Maybe that with some Masteron would be a nice little cycle to give a try. I am around 10% body fat at the moment.

gymrat827 - That is pretty very similar to the protocol I was going to try. Planned to start with 2iu daily and the gradually increase to between 6-8. The novolog I would take preworkout about 10 minutes after the last meal I ate, and then have an intraworkout shake and post workout shake. I will start the slin at 5iu and gradually increase the dosage up to 10iu. 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, and then when I get more experience, work up to 2x/day.

dylangemelli - I am not trying to be wreckless. That is why I asked I came here to ask for advice. I have reached the point where I really just don't grow anymore. So I wanted to know if the best option would be to up the dosages I run even more, or to add in other compounds. I don't think you have to make millions of dollars a year to want to have the body you want. Thanks for the reply/

hurricane - I am 100% positive my gear is legit. For about the last 2 years I have been running gear from a highly respected private lab almost exclusively. Prior to that, the labs I used were all highly reputable and respected. The Test that I use is pharm grade. So the gear is not the problem. I have been cycling for about 10 years, and run 2-3 cycles a year. So I would say I have anywhere between 20-30 cycles under my belt.

Thank your guys for the help and input. Right now my plan would be to start running the HGH and get my feet wet with slin, and then run my next cycle a couple months down the road. I might switch up the gear a bit and run a combination of Test, Deca, Tren, and Mast. Thanks again.