9 days of nolvedex and "NOTHING"

[mike001]

something has to work!! dammit. i'm trying 2 different brands and the puffy nips are only getting worse by the day!! it's starting to freak me out!! i figured this would have it under control but it's getting worse. what the hell am i going to do, not only am i haveing poor gains, now THIS!


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[Skinnerboy]

Unles you were using 1000mg of Deca or something then the puffy nips are imaginary.

Nolvadex binds to the estro receptors...period. You are either lying or imagining it.

 

[mike001]

Originally posted by Skinnerboy:
Unles you were using 1000mg of Deca or something then the puffy nips are imaginary.

Nolvadex binds to the estro receptors...period. You are either lying or imagining it.

i'm either lying!? what the fuck is your problem.
EVERYONE notices it! imaginary?

 

[RDV]

What brands are you trying, and how many mg a day are you taking?

 

[el jefe]

50mg's a day of proviron really helped with my gyno problem. But if I couldnt get it I would use 40mg's of Nolva. If you need some more help drop me an e-mail.

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[mike001]

you have mail

 

[mike001]

Originally posted by RDV:
What brands are you trying, and how many mg a day are you taking?

well the box says ZENECA. on the top says TAMOXIFENO. from TJ, i got them from a friend and came in strange looking blister packs.
the other are what i have been using from a WELL KNOWN source, so i have nothing to worry about. i just started the ones from TJ lastnight.



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[RDV]

Mike, the Zeneca's are definately legit and properly dosed. Try taking two in the morning and two at night for a week or so. That's 40mg. You should notice a reduction pretty quickly, if not I would stop whatever you are taking.

 

[el jefe]

mike001 you have mail

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My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch.

 

[The Franchise]

Maybe your gyno is due to the drugs that your using converting to Progesterone and not Estrogen.....if this is so then Nolvadex wont help.

 

[mike001]

but it cant be, ive had the symptoms for 3 weeks and i just started the deca a week ago, the rest has been test so theres no way

 

[el jefe]

Well if you already had symptoms before, then the Deca certainly wont help. I would recomend keeping the nolva at 40mg's per day and dropping your test to 750mg's and the deca to 300mg's. See if this works, if not then drop the dosages some more.

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[tru_man777]

sweet

 

[eviction]

something has to work!! dammit. i'm trying 2 different brands and the puffy nips are only getting worse by the day!! it's starting to freak me out!! i figured this would have it under control but it's getting worse. what the hell am i going to do, not only am i haveing poor gains, now THIS!

it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex

 

[rpol]

it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex

Start on Vitex its an herbal you can get from GNC or any health food store until you get the bromo or dostinex, it usually is used as a preventative but might keep it from getting worse until you get one of the other two, they are the only real cure for progesterone induced gyno.I'd keep taking the nolva too while doing the Bromo or dostinex.Good Luck

 

[str8cubano]

it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex

quick question bro, if it is progestorne induced, then how much bromo would one need to take to lower symtoms? what is the average dose?

 

[BrandonXJ]

and just to add on to the questions already, starting liquidex before the cycle and running all the way through would prevent gyno related to progesterone right? or no...

 

[BrandonXJ]

and just to add on to the questions already, starting liquidex before the cycle and running all the way through would prevent gyno related to progesterone right? or no...

eh, nevermind.. looked into it

"The presence of progesterone in male bodybuilders is through the use of the progestins, i.e. Oxymetholone (Anadrol, Anapolan50), Trenbolone (Finaject, Parabolan) and Nandrolone (Deca durabolin). A large problem for the bodybuilder is that the symptoms displayed by progesterone are identical to those of oestrogen, but the concurrent use of the typical anti-oestrogens appears to have no effect in controlling or treating it. "

I aint taking any of that anyway..

 

[BrandonXJ]

oh, found this.. don't know if you have any winny on hand.

"The use of Winstrol is also an effective method of controlling progesterone-induced gyno, as it is anti-progestagenic. An effective dose appears to be in the vicinity of 50mg eod (depot) or 30 to 35mg/day (tabs) although this dose may require increasing depending on the doses being employed in the stack. "

 

[3ccEOD]

Winny works well for this problem but I have always used it WITH high doses of fina or deca not as damage control after the fact.

 

[Slyder190]

Nolva, Aromasin, L-dex, none of it helped after i got my symptoms last cycle. However, the l-dex and femara i got I beleive was bunk, as they came from a research company. I though Nolva would help (legit stuff), but it didn't. Good luck man. It went away after my cycle by yhe way at least.

 

[junk]

Puffy nips are not nessecarily gyno. it may just be localized water retension. You can try Nolva @60-80mg a day for 5 days and see what happens. If you don't feel any itchiness, pain or lumps it's probably water and like slyder said, it will go after the cycle is over.

 

[canadianhitman]

bromo works at 1.25mg ED (1/2 of a tab)

 

[nbk]

Hmmm... I've had problems with nolva in the past. Legit nolva for that purpose, purchased in a pharmacy just across my street! If I were you, I would go with femara or adex. It seems that Im sensitive to too much nolva, might be your case.

If it were deca induced gyno, the nolva should help lowering the levels of igf-1, but I dont know if there is any use at all for +50mg of nolva.


What is you bf%, are you bloated?

Would recommend 0.5mg once or twice per week of cabergoline and 5mg e3d of selegeline (I always go on the low side with these, a bit of suppression is enough suppression).

When deca has kicked in its uncontrolable! good news its not going to grow that much but its going to itch even after the problem is solved.

Deca is evil... to some people

 

[nbk]

sorry tried to re-read

puffy or itchy... theres a bit of a difference bro

have you ever had your nipps itch, maybe just estrog floating around and forming localized water retention, like chick on the pill, the get teporarily swelled up tits.

 

[DOWN4LIFE]

Anadrol causes progesterone gyno ?

 

[liquidmuscle]

Winny works well for this problem but I have always used it WITH high doses of fina or deca not as damage control after the fact.

yep and a little dostinex, 2 tabs a wk for a month will help as well

 

[The Terminator]

Do you guys have any idea how old this post is

This member hasnt been here in probably over a year

 

[JoBu]

Puffy is no big deal...start worrying when you have pain and lumps like I do...

Nolva didn't do anything for me @ 60mg ED. I'm back in gyno land 1 year post cycle and waiting till I see an endo next week but I have femera, bromo, and nolva ready.