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8 miles sucks...

I didn't even see the movie and I could have told you that much.

I will probably watch it just to see the part where M&Ms gets kicked around by the angry black men.

-Warik
 
Even though i do think he's a prick i love the fact that he trashes these bitches that come out with horrible pop music. That slut Aguilera...wish u were dead you racist bitch....N Sync...get real you powder puff boys...MOBY (or however you spell it) this guy is a real moron and shit disturber...
 
The Nature Boy said:
I hope it sucks. I hate that prick eminem. a couple of his songs are okay, but I really want him to fail.
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Wow, I don't care for eminem that much either in respects to his immaturity, but he does have some mic skillage, you say you "hate" him, thats a pretty strong statement, and you "want him to fail", kind of hating for no reason.
 
havoc said:

Wow, I don't care for eminem that much either in respects to his immaturity, but he does have some mic skillage, you say you "hate" him, thats a pretty strong statement, and you "want him to fail", kind of hating for no reason.
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don't read too much into my words, I don't sit around and spend my time thinking about eminem. but the guy is pretty disrepectful, and I don't like that. so I hope he fails.
 
The Nature Boy said:


don't read too much into my words, I don't sit around and spend my time thinking about eminem. but the guy is pretty disrepectful, and I don't like that. so I hope he fails.
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lol
 
Most reviews have it as "better than expected".

Shady's at about $25M earned, so his failing appears unlikely.
 
So if it sucks so bad why are all the critiques saying it is so good. I heard a guy this morning, a stuffy white guy who writes for the LA Times say it was awesome and Eminem was great and held the movie together with his rage and pent up anger.

I have not seen it but I have heard a few clips and they were really bad. He acts like Marky Mark and that aint a good thing, the only good acting Marky Mark ever did was on Fear but it is not that hard to act angry and mean. It is much more hard to act like a regualr person doing regular things.

Oh on a side note anyone see that Madonna movie, shit that thing came and went all in 2 weeks. They said it was probably the worst movie since Ishtar.
 
68GT350 said:
THe movie is slated to be a box office smash. What about that?
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That's easy: pigtails and trainging bras, pre-teen suburban white rappers with names like DJ Jazzy Martin and Rap Masta Jarrod.
 
VballPlayer said:
He acts like Marky Mark and that aint a good thing, the only good acting Marky Mark ever did was on Fear
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You ever see Planet of the Apes? Boogie Nights? The Big Hit?
 
gymtime said:


That's easy: pigtails and trainging bras, pre-teen suburban white rappers with names like DJ Jazzy Martin and Rap Masta Jarrod.
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Yea, it probably will be a big hit due to the people mentioned above.

I watched the movie last night and it sucks. It was definitely not worth the time it took to download it.
 
I have no clue about Eminem's acting skills, but his music is fun sometimes - that said, I doubt he writes much of the music.
As for the lyrics, I would have far more respect for him if he wouldn't always say "just kidding" and instead say "you're an asshole, you, you, and you - no really, I mean it."

the "just kidding" thing is something 12 year olds do.
 
BeefyBull said:


He writes his own lyrics.
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right - so the part where I said "as for his lyrics" would indicate a new thought process.
he writes his lyrics, and I have an issue with them.

I don't have an issue with the music, and I like most of it - but looking in the liner notes, he doesn't seem to have anything to do with the music.
 
Cure said:


You ever see Planet of the Apes? Boogie Nights? The Big Hit?
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[Jay] Marky Mark, you were the bomb in "Three Kings", yo!" [/Jay]

The Big Hit is only $9.99 at Best Buy, good dvd for the price. Plus has Christina Applegates fine ass in it.

Havoc, what was wrong with Fight Club?

As for Em's skills on the mic, easily one of the best ever. Up there with Rakim, KRS-One, LL Cool J, Dr. Dre, etc. (BTW, Fuck Pac & Biggie making the all-time greatest list - I'm certain I could write & perform better than Biggies mumbling ass and probably write better than Pac, not sure about performing b/c I'm not the greatest with tone/voice inflection, but its only a matter of time)
 
havoc said:
Yeah, but you think Fight Club is a good movie, so your credibility sucks.
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you can't be serious!Fight club is one of the best movies released in the past five years.I really want to ask what you think might be a good movie,but I'm afraid you'll smack me down with something like"Madeline",or"my dog skip".Your credibilty is worthless to me now.
 
I think Eminem is a VERY talented rapper. I haven't seen the movie, but I will make it a point to rent it one day.

I don't own any Eminem CD's, but his lyrics, although irreverent, are pointed and real. He doesn't talk about bling-blinging, and smoking blunts. You can actually tell that what he says is true. He likes to eat vicoden and drink whiskey, and he has no respect for the women who have been important in his life.

He's not living a lie, he's a shitty person and he tells the world he is. But the way he tells it is damned entertaining to listen to. That's why I'm a "fan" of Eminem.
 
To be honest his song "A chance to blow" is phat as a motherfucker IMO, Im gong to have to add it to my gym ensemble
 
Cure said:


You ever see Planet of the Apes? Boogie Nights? The Big Hit?
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Yeah and he was a shitty actor in all of them. I think he sucks as an actor except when he tried to be angry he can not convey any emotion other than that. When he tries to he comes off really really badly. The only one of those movies which was any good was Boogie Nights.

As far as 3 Kings I still think he sucked in it and the other actors carried him along, just like in all his movies, he is either carried along by other actors or he is carried along by special effects. Just my opinion, I think he sucks as an actor. I love movies and I have studied the art form of acting and he does not know how to act. He stinks.
 
Frackal said:
To be honest his song "A chance to blow" is phat as a motherfucker IMO, Im gong to have to add it to my gym ensemble
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You mean, "Lose Yourself". I swear I've never heard a song called so many different things. I've now heard/seen:
"One Shot"
"A chance to blow"
"Own the music"

LOL

It's "Lose Yourself". :)
 
LOTS OF PLAYA HATERS IN HERE. GIVE THE GUY SOME CREDIT!!! THIS IS HIS FIRST MOVIE AND HE DID PRETTY GOOD. ANYONE WHO SAYS HE CANT RAP IS IGNORANT!!! YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW ABSOLUTELY DICK ABOUT HIP HOP.

TO THE PERSON WHO SAID YOU HOPE HE FALLS, EVEN IF THIS MOVIE CRASHES AND BURNS A HORRIBLE DEATH, I HIGHLY DOUBT HE WILL FALL. HE IS ON TOP OF THE RAP GAME (EVEN ABOVE DRE NOW) AND HOLLYWOOD IS MAKING MOVIES BASED ON HIS LIFE. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO WILL FALL?

THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING SEE IT IN A FEW HOURS.



KAYNE
 
Cure said:


You ever see Planet of the Apes? Boogie Nights? The Big Hit?
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Have to agree with Cure here.

Mark Walhberg has proven himself as an actor.

He's come a long way since NKOTB.....

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


Have to agree with Cure here.

Mark Walhberg has proven himself as an actor.

He's come a long way since NKOTB.....

Fonz
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MARK WAHLBERG WAS NVR IN NKOB. HIS BROTHER DONNIE WAS. HE WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS MARKY MARK.



KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:



MARK WAHLBERG WAS NVR IN NKOB. HIS BROTHER DONNIE WAS. HE WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS MARKY MARK.



KAYNE
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Shit. :) LOL

We're not worthy of your NKOTB knowledge KAYNE...... j/k

Fonz
 
I HATE NKOB. DONNIE PLAYS IN "BAND OF BROTHERS" ON HBO. AND I LIKE MOST OF MARK'S MOVIES. THATS HOW I DISTINGUISH THE TWO.



KAYNE
 
Fonz said:


Have to agree with Cure here.

Mark Walhberg has proven himself as an actor.

He's come a long way since NKOTB.....

Fonz
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No he has not, he sucks just as much as he did when he started. Just because he is in the movies and makes movies does not mean he is a good actor. Good actors are people like Dustin Hoffman. Anthony Hopkins, Robert Deniro and Ed Harris. Those are actors. Mark Wahlberg is a white rapper who now makes movies he is not an actor nor will he ever be one. It is an ability that you nurture and train for, just because you are famous in one arena does not mean you can move to another and be considered seriously, he is only in movies because he brings in money not because he is a good actor. The Big Hit sucked, only movie I ever walked out of.
 
Eminem is not real... He exaggerates his childhood life growing up and just whines.. He didn't have that bad of a life and he needs to stop bitching, a lot of people have it much worse. I feel sorry for his daughter.

As for him one of the greatest ever, hell no... Lyrically, he aint shit. The only thing people like are his beats. His lyrics aren't meaningful or deep, they're phoney. And they're not funny AT ALL.

SNL = funny
Conan Obrian = funny
HappyScrappy = funny
Eminem = not funny:mad:
 
Needhelp said:
Eminem is not real... He exaggerates his childhood life growing up and just whines.. He didn't have that bad of a life and he needs to stop bitching, a lot of people have it much worse. I feel sorry for his daughter.

As for him one of the greatest ever, hell no... Lyrically, he aint shit. The only thing people like are his beats. His lyrics aren't meaningful or deep, they're phoney. And they're not funny AT ALL.

SNL = funny
Conan Obrian = funny
HappyScrappy = funny
Eminem = not funny:mad:
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I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS FOR A FACT. YOU MUST HAVE GROWN UP NEXT DOOR TO HIM. YOU WOULDNT KNOW YOUR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE WALL FOOL.


KAYNE
 
Movie

Eminem can act. The movie was a bit disappointing. I saw it lastnight before it was release today (My friend is the manager at the theater). I give it a 2 1/2 out of 4 stars.
 
Needhelp said:
Eminem is not real... He exaggerates his childhood life growing up and just whines.. He didn't have that bad of a life and he needs to stop bitching, a lot of people have it much worse. I feel sorry for his daughter.

As for him one of the greatest ever, hell no... Lyrically, he aint shit. The only thing people like are his beats. His lyrics aren't meaningful or deep, they're phoney. And they're not funny AT ALL.

SNL = funny
Conan Obrian = funny
HappyScrappy = funny
Eminem = not funny:mad:
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your right, but he has talent, obviously people like the way he puts rhymes together, he has a certain style that stands out from the rest, i think he is one of the best rappers, lyrics, the sound, his voice, the tone of the music.....growing up this way or not, a lot of people have, or do feel this way, and can relate to his music, YES THIS BOY IS VERY TALENTED, and it shows seeing he's a millionaire from what he does.

no way around it, this white boys stands out from the crowd, like it or not. probably mostly because of his sick lyrics, kids dig that shit now days.
 
big_bad_buff said:

YES THIS BOY IS VERY TALENTED, and it shows seeing he's a millionaire from what he does.
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Yeah, money means you are talented, riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Marketing has nothing to do with it.
 
eminem has the most talent of any hip hop artist in the past decade, there is no denying that, his lyrics are amazing and he just flows well. He earned everything he has now.
 
BeefyBull said:


You mean, "Lose Yourself". I swear I've never heard a song called so many different things. I've now heard/seen:
"One Shot"
"A chance to blow"
"Own the music"

LOL

It's "Lose Yourself". :)
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my favorite song he has ever came out with.. def. a song for the gym..
 
KAYNE said:


I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS FOR A FACT. YOU MUST HAVE GROWN UP NEXT DOOR TO HIM. YOU WOULDNT KNOW YOUR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE WALL FOOL.


KAYNE
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LOL Kayne.

That was damn funny....... :)

Fonz
 
supernav said:
since when did it take talent to rap?

M&M is white. He needs to lose that ghetto talk and talk like he used to talk at home when he used to have white friends before he got signed.

You know people in european countries are looking at our pop stars and going "WTF?". That's like us finding out a chinese guy acting mexican is the #1 movie star in Italy. We'd be confused too.

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You are a moron.

How does one talk black? You talk like what you grew up around... Because he's white he can only have white friends?

Rapping takes talent.
 
He might have grown up ghetto. He says it is similar to the movie. Even if he didn't, you adapt to your atmosphere, and most people in hip hop talk "ghetto" as you call it.
 
i think Eminem is the shit no one knows how he grew up or no one knows how he was treated.so give the dude some credit and get off his nuts.this dude has talent.
 
I used to be pre-judgemental towards eminem too, but then realized he had skills. I don't see any reason to think he sucks unless maybe you:
a. hate rap in general
b. are gay
c. work for the government
d. jealous because he is rich and famous now and you're not
so what if he rips on a bunch of people that piss him off, and has the opportunity to make money off it. We've all been pissed at people before too, and most of those people he rips on deserve it for not lettin him do his own thing, it's a free country. I haven't seen the movie yet, but it will probably be better than most of the shit out there now, even with an unbiased opinion. I'll give the movie a fair chance
 
Cure said:
Even though i do think he's a prick i love the fact that he trashes these bitches that come out with horrible pop music. That slut Aguilera...wish u were dead you racist bitch....N Sync...get real you powder puff boys...MOBY (or however you spell it) this guy is a real moron and shit disturber...
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Moby is a talented musician. He might be a skinny looking dork who fucks invertebrates, but he's very talented nonetheless.

When i listen to music, i separate the music from the personality. I don't like the guy, but i don't mind the music. The same goes for most 'pop' stars IMO.
 
vinylgroover said:


Moby is a talented musician. He might be a skinny looking dork who fucks invertebrates, but he's very talented nonetheless.

When i listen to music, i separate the music from the personality. I don't like the guy, but i don't mind the music. The same goes for most 'pop' stars IMO.
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Agreed,

Moby is very popular in the UK.

I like his theme songs.

NSYNC and Aguilera are another story though. They SUCK.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:

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NSYNC and Aguilera are another story though. They SUCK.

Fonz
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YOU CANT SAY JUSTIN OF NSYNC DOESNT HAVE TALENT. BABYFACE EVEN BRAGGED ON HIM WHEN THEY WERE SINGING/WRITING TOGETHER. AND BABYFACE IS ONE OF THE BEST SINGER/SONG WRITERS ON THE PLANET.


KAYNE
 
i really didnt like eminem...

then i saw just who he really
pissed off...

the same people that i cant stand...

the enemy of my enemies...:)
 
I like his songs, he has good beats and the lyrics are funny.

Who knows if he came from the ghetto or not and who cares? Obviously trying to make it big in a predominately black industry is going to be hard and he probably had to go through a lot of shit. In many of those black clubs im sure he was originally booed off the stage just because he was a white boy. But because he was able to freestyle and put his anger into lyrics it made people laugh and they liked him.
And all the people against him are going to make up what ever they want to get him to fail and try to expose him as a fake just like what they did with the Ice Man....because he was a white guy trying to act black.

I like eminem. He's one of the only rappers that sings about other things than guns, smokin up and murdah like all those other dumb fucks do. It gets old after a while.
 
My opinion on M&M: I think he's a musical genius...and a misogynistic asshole.

I've been listening to hip-hop for a long time, and he's one of the few mainstream acts in recent years that actually manages to be innovate. Plus there's a real sense of purpose to a lot of his songs...you don't find that in 99% of the P-diddy clones out there today.

Listen to him talk sometime...he's a smart guy and knows exactly what he's doing. I remember a few years ago when guys like
Ice-T and Public Enemy were going to be the downfall of western civilization. lol Not much has changed. :)

Btw, "Fight Music" (w/ D12) is his best song.

I also heard the moive was awsome...gonna check it out this weekend.
 
VicTusDeuS said:
I like his songs, he has good beats and the lyrics are funny.

Who knows if he came from the ghetto or not and who cares? Obviously trying to make it big in a predominately black industry is going to be hard and he probably had to go through a lot of shit. In many of those black clubs im sure he was originally booed off the stage just because he was a white boy. But because he was able to freestyle and put his anger into lyrics it made people laugh and they liked him.
And all the people against him are going to make up what ever they want to get him to fail and try to expose him as a fake just like what they did with the Ice Man....because he was a white guy trying to act black.

I like eminem. He's one of the only rappers that sings about other things than guns, smokin up and murdah like all those other dumb fucks do. It gets old after a while.
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hey bro i wish everybody can see it this way
 
the fucker grew up in sterling heights... the only gangsta's he dealt with were at the fucking trailor park... seriously.
 
supernav said:
>You talk like what you grew up around

if he can show a video of him talking ghetto when he was a 15 year old kid in the 80s...i'll eat my shorts.

it's all a stupid act. Welcome to the music industry folks.

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Listen to this man, there is wisdom in his words.

The music industry is a joke. :mad:
 
VicTusDeuS said:
I like his songs, he has good beats and the lyrics are funny.

Who knows if he came from the ghetto or not and who cares? Obviously trying to make it big in a predominately black industry is going to be hard and he probably had to go through a lot of shit. In many of those black clubs im sure he was originally booed off the stage just because he was a white boy. But because he was able to freestyle and put his anger into lyrics it made people laugh and they liked him.
And all the people against him are going to make up what ever they want to get him to fail and try to expose him as a fake just like what they did with the Ice Man....because he was a whgite guy trying to act black.

I like eminem. He's one of the only rappers that sings about other things than guns, smokin up and murdah like all those other dumb fucks do. It gets old after a while.
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Get a few lyrics that you think are hilarious. I've heard a lot of his songs, even the old ones on infinite and i've never heard any lyrics i thought were funny. His nysync disses and others really aren't original at all.

He's one of the few commercial rappers that doesn't rap about bling bling, yea.. but there are tons of other talented artists that don't either.
 
I just read a review of it that gave it 3 out of 4 stars. I've read a ton of this critics reviews, and he's not afraid to trash a piece of shit if it's a piece of shit. I think I'll try to see it.
 
Who cares if he is "Gangsta". Is Dre gangsta? hell no, Dre ran so far away from Compton its not even funny. I think Eminem is uneducated and as a person retarded but white or not, he had the skills to place second at the rap olympics which is impressive enough for me.
 
I am sick of M.

His rhymes are weak and his music sucks.

But, I remember a time when I liked that type of music. Teenhood is a confusing time for us all, KAYNE makes that readily apparent by being all over M's JOCK.
 
I grudgingly like a lot of Eminem's stuff. "The Marshall Mathers LP" is the one and only rap album that I've ever bought.
 
I used to think Enimem was an interesting guy until the MTV music video awards. I then realized he was an immature little kid.
 
XBiker said:
I am sick of M.

His rhymes are weak and his music sucks.

But, I remember a time when I liked that type of music. Teenhood is a confusing time for us all, KAYNE makes that readily apparent by being all over M's JOCK.
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ITS READILY APPARENT THAT YOU ARE ON MY DICK ASSHOLE. YOU MUST REALLY REALLY WANT TO SUCK MY DICK AND FUCK ME CUZ EVERY POST YOU PUT UP HAS SOMETHING ABOUT ME. YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ASS BITCH. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD, I DONT GO TO BAT WITH GAY GUYS SUCH AS YOURSELF. GET ME OUT OF YOUR HEAD AND STOP THINKING ABOUT ME. I'M NOT GAY BITCH.


GOOD DAY SIR
KAYNE
 
There's some half retarded statements on this thread.

First off, beefybull says 2pac's lyrics are shit.....are you fuckin kidding me?? you woulnd't place him in lyricists elite? that's just talkin out of your ass.

second, i dont care how bad you hate eminem, or how bad you want him to fail (which also is stupid) this kid (actually 30 yrs old) has excellent skill on the mic that get sharper with every turn. he can't fail, he's on top of the rap game right now and this movie will bring him some more$$.

and you seriously think that dre is a better lyricist than tupac?! please.
 
KAYNE said:


ITS READILY APPARENT THAT YOU ARE ON MY DICK ASSHOLE. YOU MUST REALLY REALLY WANT TO SUCK MY DICK AND FUCK ME CUZ EVERY POST YOU PUT UP HAS SOMETHING ABOUT ME. YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ASS BITCH. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD, I DONT GO TO BAT WITH GAY GUYS SUCH AS YOURSELF. GET ME OUT OF YOUR HEAD AND STOP THINKING ABOUT ME. I'M NOT GAY BITCH.


GOOD DAY SIR
KAYNE
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You're not gay?

No, you're just a moronic dumbass who doesn't get it that TYPING IN ALL CAPS is not only annoying, but it makes you look foolish.

As for wanting you, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Only in your dreams.
 
VballPlayer said:

I have studied the art form of acting and he does not know how to act. He stinks.
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lol that sounds so stupid. Sorry.

I took drama in high school too, but I don't consider myself the local resident on the matter.
 
Frackal said:
To be honest his song "A chance to blow" is phat as a motherfucker IMO, Im gong to have to add it to my gym ensemble
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I can't find it on Kazza. Is that the exact name?
 
I wouldn't go watch that movie for shit. I think Eminem is a jackass. That being said, I like several of Eminem's songs. I don't want to like them, but I do. His videos are usually pretty funny also. The nature of this thread is the reason he is successful--controversy.
 
XBiker said:


You're not gay?

No, you're just a moronic dumbass who doesn't get it that TYPING IN ALL CAPS is not only annoying, but it makes you look foolish.

As for wanting you, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Only in your dreams.
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I'M GLAD IT ANNOYS YOU PRICK. AND KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT YOU DONT WANT TO SUCK MY DICK. ITS OK TO BE IN DENIAL.

KAYNE
 
For all you ignorant cock sucks that believe eminem is a "genius"of any realm,you need to find someone else' ballsack to attatch to.




FACT:Eminen when "writing"his last album colaborated with at least 12 other songwriters/producers.How do I know this you ask?My girlfriend copywrote all of his songs from his previous 2 or 3 albums,and she knows who did what,what goes where,and who deserves credit,and IT IS NOT M&M!!!!!!!Find another cock to suckle upon you half wit losers.:doublefi:
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
For all you ignorant cock sucks that believe eminem is a "genius"of any realm,you need to find someone else' ballsack to attatch to.




FACT:Eminen when "writing"his last album colaborated with at least 12 other songwriters/producers.How do I know this you ask?My girlfriend copywrote all of his songs from his previous 2 or 3 albums,and she knows who did what,what goes where,and who deserves credit,and IT IS NOT M&M!!!!!!!Find another cock to suckle upon you half wit losers.:doublefi:
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MY GIRLFRIEND DID THE SAME FOR DR. DRE. MAYBE THEY KNOW EACH OTHER. YOU THINK!!!???


KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:


I'M GLAD IT ANNOYS YOU PRICK. AND KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT YOU DONT WANT TO SUCK MY DICK. ITS OK TO BE IN DENIAL.

KAYNE
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Spoken like a true cracker from the big sleazy.

Keep up the good work, KAYNE.
 
pauly said:
There's some half retarded statements on this thread.

First off, beefybull says 2pac's lyrics are shit.....are you fuckin kidding me?? you woulnd't place him in lyricists elite? that's just talkin out of your ass.

and you seriously think that dre is a better lyricist than tupac?! please.
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I never said 2Pac's lyrics are shit. My exact words were:
"As for Em's skills on the mic, easily one of the best ever. Up there with Rakim, KRS-One, LL Cool J, Dr. Dre, etc. (BTW, Fuck Pac & Biggie making the all-time greatest list - I'm certain I could write & perform better than Biggies mumbling ass and probably write better than Pac, not sure about performing b/c I'm not the greatest with tone/voice inflection, but its only a matter of time)"

But, come to think of it, let me use an analogy to sum up my thoughts on 2Pac. Lets imagine you could walk out on a basketball court and be considered a badass if you could make 10 3-pointers. You can take as many shots as you need to make those 10. It's going to be a lot more impressive if you hit those 10 3-pointers in 12, 20, or even 30 shots. Much more impressive than, say, shooting 150 shots and making 10.

The latter is how 2Pac wrote and recorded. He'd write and record 5 songs in a day. He'd recorded enough material to make roughly 10 new albums when he died. So far there have been what, 4-7 2pac CD's released, some of them double CD's, and off of all of those albums, theres what, 5-15 good songs. Thats not a very good ratio. With Dre, 80% or more of what he makes is solid. Thats pretty fucking consistent. It's like having a sniper rifle or a spray gun like an Uzi. You can shoot both, and both might hit their targets, but its much more impresive to do it often.

If you let me record 200 songs with any decent producer, I guarantee I'd have more good songs than 2Pac did. Thats why I wouldnt place him in the lyricists' elite, Pauly.
 
XBiker said:


Spoken like a true cracker from the big sleazy.

Keep up the good work, KAYNE.
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YOU ARE VERY ANNOYING YOU KNOW THAT PUNK. THOUGH I MUST ADMIT, I AM FLATTERED YOU DEVOTE SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY TO ME. ITS A DEAD GIVE AWAY THAT YOU WANT TO FUCK ME.



KAYNE
 
VIC

IT WAS LOOSELY BASED ON HIS LIFE. EVEN IT WAS DIRECTLY BASED ON HIM, MOVIES USUALLY CHANGE NAMES AND SHIT ANYWAY.

TAKE FOR INSTANCE IF SOMEONE MADE A MOVIE ABOUT XBIKER. HIS NAME WOULD BE CHANGED TO DANIELLE THE DIVA TRANSVESTITE. THE WHOLE MOVIE WOULD CONSIST OF HIM SUCKING AND FUCKING OTHER TRANSVESTITES AND THEN CONTRACTING THE HIV VIRUS AND DIEING A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH. WHEN IN FACT THAT ALL HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE BUT HIS NAME ISNT DANIELLE THE DIVA TRANSVESTITE. ITS PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE ARCHI OR SOME STUPID SHIT.


KAYNE
 
BeefyBull said:


I never said 2Pac's lyrics are shit. My exact words were:
"As for Em's skills on the mic, easily one of the best ever. Up there with Rakim, KRS-One, LL Cool J, Dr. Dre, etc. (BTW, Fuck Pac & Biggie making the all-time greatest list - I'm certain I could write & perform better than Biggies mumbling ass and probably write better than Pac, not sure about performing b/c I'm not the greatest with tone/voice inflection, but its only a matter of time)"

But, come to think of it, let me use an analogy to sum up my thoughts on 2Pac. Lets imagine you could walk out on a basketball court and be considered a badass if you could make 10 3-pointers. You can take as many shots as you need to make those 10. It's going to be a lot more impressive if you hit those 10 3-pointers in 12, 20, or even 30 shots. Much more impressive than, say, shooting 150 shots and making 10.

The latter is how 2Pac wrote and recorded. He'd write and record 5 songs in a day. He'd recorded enough material to make roughly 10 new albums when he died. So far there have been what, 4-7 2pac CD's released, some of them double CD's, and off of all of those albums, theres what, 5-15 good songs. Thats not a very good ratio. With Dre, 80% or more of what he makes is solid. Thats pretty fucking consistent. It's like having a sniper rifle or a spray gun like an Uzi. You can shoot both, and both might hit their targets, but its much more impresive to do it often.

If you let me record 200 songs with any decent producer, I guarantee I'd have more good songs than 2Pac did. Thats why I wouldnt place him in the lyricists' elite, Pauly.
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guess i gave you karma before cuz it wouldn't lemme hit yuo. but i'll buy that.
 
FreakMonster said:
The Tribe Called Quest are lyrical genious's compared Eminem
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TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLES. FUNNY STATEMENT THOUGH.

TRIBE ISNT EVEN MAKING RECORDS ANYMORE I DONT THINK.



KAYNE
 
I agree with most of what you said about Pac but "decent" producers?...You have Daz (who's cd with Pac is TIGHT, if you want the link I'll hook you up, its leaked), the assassin is HORRIBLE, DRE only did like 5 songs for him and keep in mind all the new cd's are remixed and alot of Pac's verses have been cut out (look at When We Ride off the Better Dayz CD coming out, they fucked up a classic). Go d/l the original My closest road dogs and compare it with the UTEOT one..an ENTIRE verse (a very good one) is cut out. Amaru Producers (the same ones for Ja-Rule, ack) are killing Pac's material and ruining his legacy
 
pauly said:
guess i gave you karma before cuz it wouldn't lemme hit yuo. but i'll buy that.
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Yup, we gave each other green last week. Thanks for buying it. I dont disagree when people say Pac made hits, I just think the drama surrounding his death made him more fans than his actual work and he wasnt consistent enough.
 
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