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7/15 Boxing Mosley vs Vargas

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SUPER WELTERWEIGHT BOUT (12 Rounds) - Saturday, July 15th @ MGM Grand, Las Vegas, NV

Both boxers must answer opening bell for wager to have action.
Fernando Vargas
 
btw - last fight was even through the 10th round.

Fight was called due to SEVERE swelling over the left eye of Vargas.
 
gjohnson5 said:
Dunno , Roy Jones won the first against Antonio Tarver and then lost the last 2 including his 3 belts...

Well see if Vargas has watched enough film.
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Vargas was ahead on 2 of 3 cars I believe
 
gj, let me tell you something, i have not lost a boxing bet on here except tarver jones 3. thats cause i'm biased to jones though. i bet wink to beat tito, hatton to beat tzyu, tyson to lose as 8 to 1 favor to mcbride, golota to lose to brewster, the list goes on. i bet in real life with boxing as i really don't lose at it. shane's dad burned out a bit but he had nothing to do with that loss. that was sheerly winky wright, the best p4p fighter next to mayweather. like ive said wink has been ducked by everyone including hopkins. moseley is like oscar being that he is a real man and will take a fight even if people say its suicide. winky would destroy everyone 155 and up, next time with jermaine will be much different if it happens again. anyway remember that moseley had like 25 ko's in his first 30 fights. jack moseley was used to shane destroying people roy jones style. when he took the winky fight against jack's wishes jack really had no motivation. moseley will punish vargas tonite. if you want to help out forever thats cool its just k. but if you are throwing cash take shane, i just don't see any good odds on sportsbetting.com right now. too risky, but i see shane really looking sharp tonite
 
bruce410 said:
gj, let me tell you something, i have not lost a boxing bet on here except tarver jones 3. thats cause i'm biased to jones though. i bet wink to beat tito, hatton to beat tzyu, tyson to lose as 8 to 1 favor to mcbride, golota to lose to brewster, the list goes on. i bet in real life with boxing as i really don't lose at it. shane's dad burned out a bit but he had nothing to do with that loss. that was sheerly winky wright, the best p4p fighter next to mayweather. like ive said wink has been ducked by everyone including hopkins. moseley is like oscar being that he is a real man and will take a fight even if people say its suicide. winky would destroy everyone 155 and up, next time with jermaine will be much different if it happens again. anyway remember that moseley had like 25 ko's in his first 30 fights. jack moseley was used to shane destroying people roy jones style. when he took the winky fight against jack's wishes jack really had no motivation. moseley will punish vargas tonite. if you want to help out forever thats cool its just k. but if you are throwing cash take shane, i just don't see any good odds on sportsbetting.com right now. too risky, but i see shane really looking sharp tonite
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Did you see their first fight??
 
The Shadow said:
Did you see their first fight??
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which fight vargas and moseley. yes i did, moseley was painting him and he got lazy cause they should never have let that welt get so big. he will have no mercy this time. yes vargas was coming back but just cause shane wasn't doing much. vargas has to ko to win. this is not possible with moseley. some important things to know
1. moseley has been down only one time from a head butt from vernon forrest which gave him a concussion and he was unable to stay balanced though he remained on his feet wobbling the whole fight. other than that no one can even make him stumble. winky wright laid into him with middleweight punches that almost knocked down jermaine taylor. oscar de la hoya could not move shane a bit with his power or speed. shane moseley might have the best chin in boxing.
2. vargas has to ko to win and can not box. even then he is not the best brawler cause his hand speed and talent lacks. he is all heart and power. that won't win against talent. de la hoya destroyed vargas 2 years ago in a severe ko, and tito trinidad did as well. shane moseley is a supreme boxer and athlete with amazing talent. because his chin is so strong he cannot be taken out early by a lucky punch and it will not be possible for vargas to out box him
3. tito was destroyed by winky wright who moseley seemed to hold his own against in the second fight. certainly shane was not beaten like a red headed step child as tito was, and he fought wink twice. vargas career ends tonite. he has to win to redeem himself. this will not occur.
 
bruce410 said:
which fight vargas and moseley. yes i did, moseley was painting him and he got lazy cause they should never have let that welt get so big. he will have no mercy this time. yes vargas was coming back but just cause shane wasn't doing much. vargas has to ko to win. this is not possible with moseley. some important things to know
1. moseley has been down only one time from a head butt from vernon forrest which gave him a concussion and he was unable to stay balanced though he remained on his feet wobbling the whole fight. other than that no one can even make him stumble. winky wright laid into him with middleweight punches that almost knocked down jermaine taylor. oscar de la hoya could not move shane a bit with his power or speed. shane moseley might have the best chin in boxing.
2. vargas has to ko to win and can not box. even then he is not the best brawler cause his hand speed and talent lacks. he is all heart and power. that won't win against talent. de la hoya destroyed vargas 2 years ago in a severe ko, and tito trinidad did as well. shane moseley is a supreme boxer and athlete with amazing talent. because his chin is so strong he cannot be taken out early by a lucky punch and it will not be possible for vargas to out box him
3. tito was destroyed by winky wright who moseley seemed to hold his own against in the second fight. certainly shane was not beaten like a red headed step child as tito was, and he fought wink twice. vargas career ends tonite. he has to win to redeem himself. this will not occur.
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If Vargas can avoid being hit, we'll have to see what happens in the later rounds. The fights you mention pretty much went the distance. If has really has been running 5-7 miles a day he should be in shape.

The Vargas De La Hoya fight was in Sept 2002 and went 11 rounds... De La Hoya hit him with a flurry to end the fight. Not sure how that's a "severe knockout"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyLQmTa-HI&search=hoya

Felix Trinidad fight went 12 rounds where Vargas was knocked down 3 times (a tko) but knocked "Tito" down twice in that fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UHtblSr5k&search=trinidad vargas

Let's not forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright in a majority decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv87ZIE_6TQ&search=WINKY VARGAS

Anyway let's give Vargas more credit then that...
 
for sure i agree with the fact that de la hoya flurried but he still fucked him up. as for wink losing, link that up bro, you will be amazed he fucked up vargas bad, it was the weakest decision ive seen since tito over oscar
gjohnson5 said:
If Vargas can avoid being hit, we'll have to see what happens in the later rounds. The fights you mention pretty much went the distance. If has really has been running 5-7 miles a day he should be in shape.

The Vargas De La Hoya fight was in Sept 2002 and went 11 rounds... De La Hoya hit him with a flurry to end the fight. Not sure how that's a "severe knockout"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyLQmTa-HI&search=hoya

Felix Trinidad fight went 12 rounds where Vargas was knocked down 3 times (a tko) but knocked "Tito" down twice in that fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UHtblSr5k&search=trinidad vargas

Let's not forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright in a majority decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv87ZIE_6TQ&search=WINKY VARGAS

Anyway let's give Vargas more credit then that...
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gj, that was a much different vargas and i still think winky fucked him up, he was ahead on the cards. winky isn't getting hit when those punches hit his gloves you have to understand that. we shall see tonite
 
if you have on demand cable go to hbo boxing, look at the greatest fights for moseley, look how he dominated oscar and flurried all fight just like the vargas fight but was the better man, he didn't go down like fernando.
 
no doubt no doubt, but i think vargas needed winny to fight with oscar and got caught. also think his back is a huge problem, shane has not prone to cuts or injury or swelling
 
gjohnson5 said:
Ooh well game over...

4everhung , looks like you are in the red...

http://www.fightnews.com/
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with the odds it is a negative 900000 or so
but I took in 300000
so negative 600000 which I can handle
if vargas wins I win 1.2 million net
about double my negative exposure
 
your welcome, i think i donated 200k of that 300 you took in.

ha!

me and the under dugs. im gonna start betting the little bastards.
 
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