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7/15 Boxing Mosley vs Vargas

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The Shadow said:
Did you see their first fight??
which fight vargas and moseley. yes i did, moseley was painting him and he got lazy cause they should never have let that welt get so big. he will have no mercy this time. yes vargas was coming back but just cause shane wasn't doing much. vargas has to ko to win. this is not possible with moseley. some important things to know
1. moseley has been down only one time from a head butt from vernon forrest which gave him a concussion and he was unable to stay balanced though he remained on his feet wobbling the whole fight. other than that no one can even make him stumble. winky wright laid into him with middleweight punches that almost knocked down jermaine taylor. oscar de la hoya could not move shane a bit with his power or speed. shane moseley might have the best chin in boxing.
2. vargas has to ko to win and can not box. even then he is not the best brawler cause his hand speed and talent lacks. he is all heart and power. that won't win against talent. de la hoya destroyed vargas 2 years ago in a severe ko, and tito trinidad did as well. shane moseley is a supreme boxer and athlete with amazing talent. because his chin is so strong he cannot be taken out early by a lucky punch and it will not be possible for vargas to out box him
3. tito was destroyed by winky wright who moseley seemed to hold his own against in the second fight. certainly shane was not beaten like a red headed step child as tito was, and he fought wink twice. vargas career ends tonite. he has to win to redeem himself. this will not occur.
 
bruce410 said:
which fight vargas and moseley. yes i did, moseley was painting him and he got lazy cause they should never have let that welt get so big. he will have no mercy this time. yes vargas was coming back but just cause shane wasn't doing much. vargas has to ko to win. this is not possible with moseley. some important things to know
1. moseley has been down only one time from a head butt from vernon forrest which gave him a concussion and he was unable to stay balanced though he remained on his feet wobbling the whole fight. other than that no one can even make him stumble. winky wright laid into him with middleweight punches that almost knocked down jermaine taylor. oscar de la hoya could not move shane a bit with his power or speed. shane moseley might have the best chin in boxing.
2. vargas has to ko to win and can not box. even then he is not the best brawler cause his hand speed and talent lacks. he is all heart and power. that won't win against talent. de la hoya destroyed vargas 2 years ago in a severe ko, and tito trinidad did as well. shane moseley is a supreme boxer and athlete with amazing talent. because his chin is so strong he cannot be taken out early by a lucky punch and it will not be possible for vargas to out box him
3. tito was destroyed by winky wright who moseley seemed to hold his own against in the second fight. certainly shane was not beaten like a red headed step child as tito was, and he fought wink twice. vargas career ends tonite. he has to win to redeem himself. this will not occur.

If Vargas can avoid being hit, we'll have to see what happens in the later rounds. The fights you mention pretty much went the distance. If has really has been running 5-7 miles a day he should be in shape.

The Vargas De La Hoya fight was in Sept 2002 and went 11 rounds... De La Hoya hit him with a flurry to end the fight. Not sure how that's a "severe knockout"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyLQmTa-HI&search=hoya

Felix Trinidad fight went 12 rounds where Vargas was knocked down 3 times (a tko) but knocked "Tito" down twice in that fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UHtblSr5k&search=trinidad vargas

Let's not forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright in a majority decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv87ZIE_6TQ&search=WINKY VARGAS

Anyway let's give Vargas more credit then that...
 
for sure i agree with the fact that de la hoya flurried but he still fucked him up. as for wink losing, link that up bro, you will be amazed he fucked up vargas bad, it was the weakest decision ive seen since tito over oscar
gjohnson5 said:
If Vargas can avoid being hit, we'll have to see what happens in the later rounds. The fights you mention pretty much went the distance. If has really has been running 5-7 miles a day he should be in shape.

The Vargas De La Hoya fight was in Sept 2002 and went 11 rounds... De La Hoya hit him with a flurry to end the fight. Not sure how that's a "severe knockout"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyLQmTa-HI&search=hoya

Felix Trinidad fight went 12 rounds where Vargas was knocked down 3 times (a tko) but knocked "Tito" down twice in that fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UHtblSr5k&search=trinidad vargas

Let's not forget that Vargas beat Winky Wright in a majority decision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv87ZIE_6TQ&search=WINKY VARGAS

Anyway let's give Vargas more credit then that...
 
gj, that was a much different vargas and i still think winky fucked him up, he was ahead on the cards. winky isn't getting hit when those punches hit his gloves you have to understand that. we shall see tonite
 
if you have on demand cable go to hbo boxing, look at the greatest fights for moseley, look how he dominated oscar and flurried all fight just like the vargas fight but was the better man, he didn't go down like fernando.
 
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