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6-7th week & little results.

UFC22

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Hey everyone well i'm nearing the end of my 6th week of Organon Karachi sus250 @ 750mgs EW. So far i've kept the same weight since I am not trying to gain access fat or bloat. I've been eating clean High protein/Low carbs. My goal on this cycle was more or less to lose some BF and lean out. My strength hasn't been threw the roof but it has increased, and my body doesnt look much different. I'm starting to say fuck it and increase my cardio but also increase my carbs so i can gain some damn muscle. What do you recommend guys? I'm running this cycle for another 7wks and and have 5 weeks of Winny to end with. Just give me a little tap in the right direction haha. Thanks always.
 
UFC22 said:
Well i'm pretty damn sure its legit. Gosh i feel like shit right now.


then it does not add up if you are eating clean and enough and killing it in the gym you should be felling like a king right now
 
Can you post a pic of the Karachi's you are taking? I know of only one fake Karachi and it is obvious that its fake. If it's real it should have the BN and the expire number stamped on the bottom in dot matrix. The fake has it printed on in blue ink.

750mg a week and not a single pound of weight gain? That shit just doesn't add up.
 
UFC22 said:
Hey everyone well i'm nearing the end of my 6th week of Organon Karachi sus250 @ 750mgs EW. So far i've kept the same weight since I am not trying to gain access fat or bloat. I've been eating clean High protein/Low carbs. My goal on this cycle was more or less to lose some BF and lean out. My strength hasn't been threw the roof but it has increased, and my body doesnt look much different. I'm starting to say fuck it and increase my cardio but also increase my carbs so i can gain some damn muscle. What do you recommend guys? I'm running this cycle for another 7wks and and have 5 weeks of Winny to end with. Just give me a little tap in the right direction haha. Thanks always.
Need more diet info..how many grams of carbs per day and how many grams of fat and of protein.
 
If nothing else from 750mg of Test you should have gained at least 5-10 pounds of water weight. I know if I had gained zero from 750mg of Test after that long I would know it was fake. You said your strength has increased, but by how much? 5-10 pounds wouldn't mean anything to me...20-30 pounds in bench, squat, deadlift would mean something to me as far as letting me know the gear is working. You always get a placebo effect from taking gear (5-10lbs) but you can't placebo a 30lb increase in your lifts.
 
if the gear was legit u would at least gain some water-weight. are u runnin an anti-e? if not, that shit's juts gotta be fake.

YES i am taking idex at .5mgs ED & was taking a little nolva to get rid of my gyno symptoms. You know what if it was fake why would i be getting over sensitive nips?

Can you post a pic of the Karachi's you are taking? I know of only one fake Karachi and it is obvious that its fake. If it's real it should have the BN and the expire number stamped on the bottom in dot matrix. The fake has it printed on in blue ink.

Sorry i dont have a camera on my cell or a digital at the moment, but i can tell you its not printed in blue ink.

Need more diet info..how many grams of carbs per day and how many grams of fat and of protein.

You know what this may be the problem I was sick for a period of time in my cycle i know that could contriubute to the fact. I was sleeping looong hours and missing class and basically if i was asleep for say 10+ hours my body had to be in a catabolic state. I usually aveage 4 20-40gram protein shakes a day, red meat, turkey. I usually consume most of my carbs before 3pm after that time i dont eat carbs or usually only to a minimal amount besides post workout i will usually high carb (I work out at night). Sure my diet is on the light side but i know 750mgs should be yielding more results. Like i said above my goal was to lose a bit of bf and harden up. My weight has stayed about the same but i know i've lost a tad bit of fat.
 
yeah it's fake. You said nothing. You should at least have acne. Definitely increased hard-ons. I don't think you have testoterone. Testosterone = puberty. 750mg is huge. My first cycle was 250ew sustanon, covered in zits and gained 30lbs. You have no evidence of a testosterone blood level at all.
 
750mg sus per week should have yielded solid gains by now.

however, i must stress that not everybody reacts the same to gear.
i personally know a few hardgainers who dont grow on 200mg anapolans per day!

its a hard fact to accept, but a fact that some of us will HAVE to accept cause of poor genetics.

post your pics brotha..
 
If libido is up, nips are sensitive, ect...then the test is real. I could guess that you may have been over training???
If you have been eating a set amount of carbs...but burning them off with the cardio, and not burning excessive carbs, then you will not have any weight loss.
As far as gains, if you are only eating maintenence amounts, then you will not gain.

As far as water weight, there should at least be some...but then again you are using Adex. So if you are not drinking tons of water, and you are taking Adex...then you may not have much water weight gains.

If the stuff is not fake, then you need to take a good look at your training and diet. If you want to gain weight on the remainder...then keep your cardio the same as you are doing and up you cals (carbs, PT, and fat). If you want to lose more BF%, the keep the food intake the same and increase the cardio.
 
somethings amiss if you haven't gained weight from 750mg of sus...heck 5wks of 250mg and i gained 22lbs, kept70-80% of it months later....
 
satchboogie said:
750mg sus per week should have yielded solid gains by now.

however, i must stress that not everybody reacts the same to gear.
i personally know a few hardgainers who dont grow on 200mg anapolans per day!

its a hard fact to accept, but a fact that some of us will HAVE to accept cause of poor genetics.

post your pics brotha..

Holy shit! Off 200mgs of anapolan I could grow tits that would put me into the porno industry! lol You are right though everyone is different!
 
AlwaysOn said:
i don't think anyone permanently grows on anadrol

drol is crap

Agree Bro! Drol works great for size and strength (short term) loved it while on. But once you get off say goodbye to the drol gains for the most part!
 
If libido is up, nips are sensitive, ect...then the test is real. I could guess that you may have been over training???
If you have been eating a set amount of carbs...but burning them off with the cardio, and not burning excessive carbs, then you will not have any weight loss.
As far as gains, if you are only eating maintenence amounts, then you will not gain.

Yeah the libido is up and my right nip was super sensitive so i had to use nolva. I do alot of activity such as MMA besides weightlifting and cardio. I think i need to up my cals and see how it goes. Is there any chance that the amps of karachi sus are underdosed dramatically? I mean my first cycle I used Deca and gained a good amount of muscle as well as fat on 200-400mgs EW. I really dont think i respond as well as everyone else does on gear. After i'm done with this cycle i'm going to take a little break and get some legit Enanthate and run it at a moderate dose and see how it goes.
 
If it's real it should have the BN and the expire number stamped on the bottom in dot matrix. The fake has it printed on in blue ink.

stainless_steel are you sure about that? I thought it wasn't printed in blue but just noticed it was when i took a second look!!!!
IS THIS SHIT FAKE? I'm actually incredibly pissed off right now, is that why my gains aren't what i expect? WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE FAKE AMP? WHY ARE MY NIPS SENSITVE? WHY IS MY LIBIDO UP? WHY DO I HAVE A TAD BIT MORE ACNE THAN USUALL?
 
UFC22 said:
stainless_steel are you sure about that? I thought it wasn't printed in blue but just noticed it was when i took a second look!!!!
IS THIS SHIT FAKE? I'm actually incredibly pissed off right now, is that why my gains aren't what i expect? WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE FAKE AMP? WHY ARE MY NIPS SENSITVE? WHY IS MY LIBIDO UP? WHY DO I HAVE A TAD BIT MORE ACNE THAN USUALL?


I don't know specifics about this fake, but sometimes fakes are just majorly underdosed.... Maybe there is a small amount of Test in it, and that's why you're feeling effects?

rizz
 
Prizz said:
I don't know specifics about this fake, but sometimes fakes are just majorly underdosed.... Maybe there is a small amount of Test in it, and that's why you're feeling effects?

rizz


And if this is the case, then it sounds like your VERY susceptible to gyno. Once again, another positive aspect is you discovered this the "easy" way. If you had been taking 750mg of test then you would be a size DD by now!

With this in mind, plan your next cycle with being gyno prone as a real possibility.

If you want to be sure on your gear, find a way to get a pic posted. The good folks here will surly be able to identify it.
 
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