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500mg test is all you need

Cryptlord

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Just started my 4th cycle, other consisted of more test, winstrol, and dbol.

this one i decided to just keep it simple at 500mg test.

already seeing nice gains, lost fat, and increased strength

what more could you want? 500mg never gets old!
 
Diet is solid, around 3500 calories (maintenance)... basically going for lean look with high calories, im an ectomorph.

Cardio right now is medium, i work out 5 days a week and do cardio on my two off days.
 
Cryptlord said:
Just started my 4th cycle, other consisted of more test, winstrol, and dbol.

this one i decided to just keep it simple at 500mg test.

already seeing nice gains, lost fat, and increased strength

what more could you want? 500mg never gets old!


500mg TEST E or CYP week works great for me as well.
 
My fourth cycle starts next monday, still waiting on vials and syringes, but I'm trying 700 mg test prop... feel like a salivating five year old, can't wait to open my presents...
 
think about it even at 200-250mg a week your test levels are higher then an 18 yr old,, with proper diet and training you better be able to work with that..... the lowest dose with results is the way to go,,, I have said that from the start and stand by it today..... my name is littleb and I endorse this message :p
 
even after several cycles with higher doses... this is truely my favorite yet. simply because you look fuller, less bloat, and simply feel better. more is not better. lower will give you a leaner look and diet/excerise will do the rest
 
slat1 said:
Shit 250 is amazing if your diet and all is spot on!

I liked 250 as a base for my last two cycle but this time I ran 400, had to run more AI due to gyno sides but overall well being and libido is fucking awesome.
 
enacer420nj said:
I liked 250 as a base for my last two cycle but this time I ran 400, had to run more AI due to gyno sides but overall well being and libido is fucking awesome.

Are you sensitive to Gyno?
 
Thats the highest it should go IMO. Thats the point of diminishing returns. (gains don't increase much, sides get worse and worse.) I remember layinback saying that and I agreed 100%
 
My best results thus far was a 10wk'er of 500mg/ew test-e by itself. I thinking of running it at 500mg/ew + 600mg of Primo/ew for 16wks this next go around. Do you guys think its overkill or the results will be even better? I'm thinking it will nice lean, steady overall gain. Of course, with the right diet and training. With that being said, I still agree that we are all different and that most people cannot handle more than 1000-1500mg of anything per week. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
flexdaddyz71 said:
My best results thus far was a 10wk'er of 500mg/ew test-e by itself. I thinking of running it at 500mg/ew + 600mg of Primo/ew for 16wks this next go around. Do you guys think its overkill or the results will be even better? I'm thinking it will nice lean, steady overall gain. Of course, with the right diet and training. With that being said, I still agree that we are all different and that most people cannot handle more than 1000-1500mg of anything per week. Correct me if I'm wrong.

if the primo is legit and properly dosed you can get by on 300 - 400

you could do an equal amount of test and i bet a hundred bucks to

a donut you'd be tickled pink.

keep the test low and if you just have to have more

don't up the test but add 200-300 deca or EQ.

remember that it's total mg per week toward nitrogen

retention. this will create leaner cleaner gains with

little to no sides in most folks
 
GUARDIAN said:
250 can be plenty for most.

Hell, when I bump my HRT to 200, I feel and see a difference. Pretty amazing. It'd be nice to add 400 mgs of primo EW to that though. Maybe for my birthday I'll throw myself a party. :)
 
Question for the test only camp - this is a what is better type of question -

would running 500mg test p/w for 52 weeks of the year produce more gains then running 500mg test p/w for 12 then drop to 250mg for 12 weeks than back to 500mg for 12 then finish on 250 for 12 more weeks - I relaise this might not be done in practice but its just a what if question, with reguards to builidng up tolerence vs upper and lowering the dose to keep the body guessing etc
 
I tried a gram of test cyp weekly (and 800mg eq and 3 ius GH daily) and found it to be a waste. The only "gains" I saw at doubling the amount was bloat and water retention.

It convinced me that if I want to use "more" gear, then to just increase the amount of anabolics I am using, not the androgens (test.)

My next cycle will be around 100mg Test Cyp + 200mg Primo injected M W FR and then anavar
 
I can't tell a difference between 400-700mg. stick with what works, if it ain't broke don't fix it
 
Cryptlord said:
Just started my 4th cycle, other consisted of more test, winstrol, and dbol.

this one i decided to just keep it simple at 500mg test.

already seeing nice gains, lost fat, and increased strength

what more could you want? 500mg never gets old!


So your not following the HG protocol of more gear? What??? :p
 
I'm currently doing my first cycle,250mgs sust & 200mgs deca,6 weeks in and have already gained 18 lean pounds,wasn't expecting it to work so well.

Nearly went with double that dose because of some of the stuff i've read,i'm glad i didn't with a good diet theres really no need.
 
Cryptlord said:
Just started my 4th cycle, other consisted of more test, winstrol, and dbol.

this one i decided to just keep it simple at 500mg test.

already seeing nice gains, lost fat, and increased strength

what more could you want? 500mg never gets old!
Some can do good on less, some can do better on a little more. Find what works
for you and if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
ill tell you what, im enjoying an omna eod right now :)
 
DaveTSI said:
ill tell you what, im enjoying an omna eod right now :)


fukn a bro, if i wasn't on tren and was doing a blast i'd be on 700-900mg range of test. something happens when you hit 700mg ew, you get balls of steel, you cannot help hittin on every chick you see. hehe. sooooo mother fucking horny
 
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