3 weeks with Stim X

[zaxxon1982]

Just got my bottle of Stim X today and will keep this journal of my experiences with the supplement. I plan to take it 3 times a week before heavy workouts. I'm doing a Rippetoe-inspired A/B split three days a week plus a fourth workout for arms and calves. This thread is where I will put all feedback on the substance... how it affects me, how the effects change through the day, how the effects change over time.

Some important background. Stats are 29, 6'1", 225, 25% (guessing, prolly a little lower but who knows). I work out first thing in the morning. Diet is about 2800 cals/d over 7-8 meals including about 275g of protein. Other supplements I'm taking are:

Nature's Best: Zero Carb Isopure
Optimum Nutrition: 100% Casein Protein
Protein Factory: Hydrolized 520 Protein
Vitamin Shoppe: Some multivitamin for men
Dextrose
Maltodextrin
Fish oil

Drugs I use:
Caffeine (in food/drinks)
Carisoprodol (muscle relaxer after deadlifting - recovering from a back injury)
Hydrocodone/APAP (infrequent; also related to back injury)
Cyclobenzaprine (muscle relaxer/sleep aid)

Also considering the Sesapure/Glucorell R combo from AF. If I add them I will describe changes to the effects of Stim X, if any.

Other background. I sleep 7-8 hours per night. Wake up at 5:30 and workout from 6:00 to about 7:00. Have a desk job during the day and occasionally play some tennis or run a few miles at night.

I'm excited to explore this supplement and will keep you all posted on what happens.

 

[AX_Ryan]

I look forward to your log. Thanks for doing it.

 

[zaxxon1982]

Saturday, March 18

6:45 - Woke up. Took 1 cap Stim X with 16 oz water.

6:50 - Had a preworkout shake consisting of about 2/3 protein and 1/3 medium GI carbs.

7:15 - Began workout. Today I'm doing squats, chins, standing OH press, and weighted hypers. I'm pretty excited about the workout. Maybe the Stim X, maybe psychosomatic.

7:15 to 8:15 - Workout was good. I was consistently eager to get on to the next set, and I definitely attribute this to the Stim X. Good thing I had my watch or I'd probably stack the sets up too close to each other. Mouth was definitely very dry. Afterwards I was a little jittery getting back in the car. Lower back is pretty tight from the hypers so I took 350mg carisoprodol.

8:30 - PWO shake. It was disgusting. I didn't want to drink it at all. Possibly because of the Hydro 520 I use in it, but I'm attributing it to the appetite suppression from the Stim X. I choked it down without gagging. No nausea.

9:30 - Shower/relax. I've been yawning a bit. I think the meprobamate (carisoprodol's active metabolite) is sedating me a bit. Will be interesting to see what happens when the sedative wears off (should be in about an hour).

10:15 - I notice that I'm sweating a little. Didn't sweat more than usual this morning, but I should be cooled down by now. Also had a midmorning shake. Not too hard to get this one down, not because I'm hungry but because I'm very thirsty.

11:00 to 1:00 - Went to a picnic and ate 3 potato chips. No appetite whatsoever. I will try to eat something in the next hour or so, but it may be tough. Energy level is not particularly high and I'm beginning to think the earlier drowsiness was not due to the meprobamate after all. Still a little sweating but not much... probably wouldn't even notice it if I weren't keeping this log.

1:30 - Forced myself to eat some leftover steak for lunch. Interesting experience here... I have no appetite at all, but my body isn't really rejecting the food I make it eat. After the steak and some veggies I am glad to not have to think about food again for a couple hours.

2:00 to 4:30 - Went on a couple errands. Pretty monotonous stuff, but it's not boring me. Is this from the Stim X? I need to pay attention to my reactions to simple activities to see if I have a different level of focus/engagement compared to when I'm off the stimulant.

5:00 - Had a glass of milk. No big deal. Still not hungry, but the thought of food isn't as vexing to me as it was six hours ago.

6:00 to 7:30 - Went out to dinner. Perceived the same phenomenon from earlier. I was eating not to satisfy hunger, but rather to get nutrition into my body. My stomach wasn't resisting me at all... it just never asked for more. This is actually a very nice manifestation of appetite suppression, and it's one I haven't encountered before. I will pay very close attention to this.

8:00 - Sat down to make this entry. I am typing a little faster than usual and mental focus is still good. I'm getting a little worried that I may have some trouble sleeping tonight, but will update that tomorrow.

Overall - Decent first day. Nothing extreme one way or the other, except for a pretty remarkable level of appetite suppression. I never felt wired and was only a little jittery right after the workout (at about T+1:30). I also have not had any sort of crash. Focus has been decent all day. I suspect I will learn more about the effects of Stim X by observing my "off" days than my "on" days, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[AX_Ryan]

Great log. That is the same affects I get one one cap. 2-3 gets me the more wired feeling. One is stable energy and 0 hunger.

 

[zaxxon1982]

A quick update. No trouble sleeping last night. My dog woke me up at about 3:00 and I had no trouble getting back to sleep. I feel pretty normal right now. Next workout is Monday morning - will update here Monday night.

 

[C-Los 21]

I'm impressed with this log....great job!
Enjoy stimx

 

[zaxxon1982]

Monday, March 20

7:00 - Woke up. Took 1 cap Stim X with 16 oz water.

7:10 - Had a preworkout shake consisting of about 2/3 protein and 1/3 medium GI carbs.

7:45 - Began workout. Squats, bench, deads, and abs today. I definitely feel capable but not as excited as I was Saturday. I'm thinking the excitement I felt then was probably psychosomatic after all.

7:45 to 9:00 - Another good workout. Didn't have the urgency I had last time but was very deliberate and had no problem exploding through the movements. More dry mouth. I am convinced that this is one of the negative sides for sure. Normally I visit the water fountain between the various lifts, but today I was going over there between SETS. Looks like I'll have to bring a water bottle from this point forward. No jitters of any kind today. Squats plus deads did a number on the CNS and I was definitely not having any trouble with moving too quickly.

9:10 - Another sickening PWO shake. Again I see the effects of the Stim X in this remarkable appetite suppression. Again got through the shake with no nausea.

9:30 - Shower/relax. I'm tired again. Having thought about this a little, I think that it's due to the insulin spike from the PWO. Wore off last time, I expect it to do so this time as well.

10:30 - I went to work and am again noticing the sweating. It wasn't too bad in my office (which is very cold), but when I went to get a morning coffee with some friends I had to fan myself to stay dry. I am sure this is the Stim X... I may take one on a non-workout day to see if it causes the sweating from a relaxed state or just delays the cool-down from a workout session.

11:00 to 2:00 - Various work activities and lunch. Again no appetite at all. Work doesn't seem to be much of a problem, but I happen to be pretty interested in what I'm doing so it's hard to say whether it's the Stim X or just the work keeping me engaged.

2:30 - Forced down an afternoon snack (some tuna). Againthe appetite is nothing but there is no nausea. I'm really liking this.

3:00 to 7:30 - Not much to say here. Work is over. Going to get a steak with a buddy.

8:00 to 10:00 - Dinner. Incredibly hard to eat this stuff. We went to a pretty nice steakhouse and I took 75% of it home in a bag. Again with the appetite suppression.

Overall - Good focus all day, and low appetite plus a little morning sweating. I'm thinking that sums up what 1 of these does. I will be off on Tuesday but lift Wed, Thurs, and Fri, so I will see then what taking the supplement does over multiple consecutive days' use.

 

[gymratforlife]

Im waiting on my free sample right now,I will then order some if it works for me.

 

[AX_Ryan]

Have you ran two caps yet?

 

[zaxxon1982]

I had something of a personal upheaval this week that kept me off the boards but not out of the gym. I originally intended to just dose on the A/B workout days and skip the Stim X on arms day, but I wanted to see how three consecutive days on the supplement would affect me. I'll summarize from my handwritten journal here to keep the length in check.


Wednesday, March 22:

Early morning: Awaken, Stim X, Preworkout shake. Same as above.

Good workout. Squats/chins/OH press plus some weighted hypers. Really thirsty but otherwise totally capable today.

PWO shake/shower: More of the suppressed appetite. I am developing the skill of consuming food when I don't want it, and this is coming in most handy with this supplement. Shakes are a little easier than real food because I'm so thirsty.

Morning/lunch/afternoon: The sweating isn't actually all that bad considering that I'm using a stimulant, but I have an office job and the rings under the arms are pretty embarrassing. Still very dry and not hungry in the least. I think I could cut very well on Stim X, surviving comfortably consuming nothing but shakes.

Evening: I'm tired by 9:00. No problems.


Thursday, March 23:

Early morning: Awaken, Stim X, Preworkout shake.

Workout was decent. It's an accessory day and not all that intense. I'm pretty sure I won't use the Stim X again for this workout as I don't really need it and I found myself tempted to do more than I should.

PWO shake and shower at home, then cooldown. It looks like the extra heat I've felt in the mornings is the Stim X keeping me hot from workouts as opposed to creating it out of nothing. I didn't get too hot in the gym today and am cooling off much easier today.

Work: Crazy day and wasn't paying too much attention to my physiology. More sweat, but likely from nerves.

Overall for Thursday: I'm feeling very dry, going back into my throat and sinuses. I was very busy at work today and didn't drink as much as I should have. That won't happen again.

Night: Stayed up watching NCAA, but was pretty tired.


Friday, March 24:

Early morning: Same as always, but this time I am really tired from the long day and late night. If I am fully alert by the time I get to the Y it will be a testament to the "morning coffee" usefulness of the product. Not sure if daily use for this effect is a good idea though, and I'd hate to get addicted to any stim.

Workout was excellent. Squats/bench/deads today. This is a very taxing workout from a CNS standpoint, and the Stim X is definitely a helper here. Forgot to get a water bottle so made lots of trips to the fountain. Incredible workout overall.

"Worked" from home today and sweated all day. The t-shirt handled it much better than the dress shirts, but this is definitely irritating. I think I drank about 300 ounces of h2o today, which was very easy to do given that I've now used the stim 3 days straight.

Night: Not too tough to get to sleep. The only effect that increased with consecutive days' use was the thirst and dry mouth. Water is really a non-negotiable part of any program of use for Stim X.

Saturday and Sunday: Back off the Stim X, back to normal in pretty much every way. Monday will be the first time I use 2. Will report on that Monday or Tuesday.