2nd Cycle- Test/Deca/Dbol

[sweed]

well, going to be doing my 2nd cycle sooner than expected, looks like Sept 18th. heres the rundown:

Cycle:
Test E UG - 750mgs/ week - 1-12
Deca- Durabolin- 600 mgs/week - 1-12
Bionabol (dbol) 50 mgs ed - 1-4

Ancillaries:
Adex- .5 mgs eod 1-14
nolvadex - on hand
dostinex - on hand
HCG running threw out twice a week. 500IU's /week

PCT:
Clomid: 300/100/50 - 13-17
Nolva: 20 - 13-17

Diet:
Very Clean, but in large mass quantities, looking for 4500-5000/ day
protein sources: chicken, eggs, steak, fish, whey
carb sources: oatmeal, rice, pasta, multigrain bread, dex
fat sources: olive oil, fish oil, pb, nuts

Training:
5 days per week. 3 on 1 off
12-15 sets per muscle group. reps ranging from 4-20, usually 8-12.

Supplements:
Protein powder
dextrose
multi
Tylers liver detox
(i dont use too much)

Stats/Goals: 22 , 6'2'' 220 ~9%. I plan on starting at the same weight. If MY weight goes up at all, I know its water/fat since I've been dieting for a few months.
I hope to gain at least 15 lbs after pct while staying at a reasonable bf, hopefully no more than 10-11%. I will get bodyfat tested about 2 times per month.

Now you can attack me. Comments, critiques, suggestions?
thanks

 

[bigtravis]

sweed, you could probably take the test up to 1000. since the deca is it 600 if it were me. that range would make me a little more comfortable. i can remember doing that exact run except the d-bol was at60-80ed i'm pretty sure. good luck.

 

[swordfish151]

no...looks really solid to me bro...why you starting it early?

 

[sweed]

Bigtravis... the person i was going over this with said 750-1g... 750 is enough for 2nd cycle.
fishy... i was going to compete and then wait a week and start the cycle then, but i got hurt, and it will be recovered before my new cycle start date, def.
this is going to be a fun one

 

[Bruce]

no way a gram, sweed you are the man when it comes to planning cycles its relieving to see. stick to 750 test at your age and cycle history that is plenty. good luck we will be starting about the same time.

 

[musclehealth]

Also planning my second cycle. It will be very similar to sweed. We did our first cycle at the same time. They were the same. My second will be some time in October. Thats a hell of a second cycle. Mine will be similar but the dosage will most likely be less. Seems kinda high for second cycle. We shall see. Good luck bro.

 

[sweed]

Also planning my second cycle. It will be very similar to sweed. We did our first cycle at the same time. They were the same. My second will be some time in October. Thats a hell of a second cycle. Mine will be similar but the dosage will most likely be less. Seems kinda high for second cycle. We shall see. Good luck bro.

ya bro, i remember that. I can;t wait to get on. Should be another great one. u going to be keeping another log? i prob will.

 

[cranny]

Cycle looks great. It's what I'll be using come January. Although slightly less amounts. Mine will be Test@750/wk for 10, Deca@400/wk for 8, and dbol@30mg/day for 4wks. You should blow up like a Brama bull

 

[sdf777]

I'm only a newbie, but aren't you supposed to wait 18 to 21 days from the last injection before clomid?

 

[sweed]

I'm only a newbie, but aren't you supposed to wait 18 to 21 days from the last injection before clomid?

"On average, begin PCT approximately 5-10 days after your last injection regardless of longer acting esters. Begin PCT 1-3 days after your last injection and/or intake when using short acting esters.

Keep in mind, pituitary LH secretion automatically increases as the hormones diminish from your system. The elevated androgen levels are from an exogenous source and your endogenous production is suppressed. Therefore, waiting for the exogenous androgens to completely clear from your system, ultimately results in lower total concentrations of androgens in your system when beginning PCT. This leads to an unfavorable andgrogen:estrogen ratio and the well known “crash” effect." -Jenetic

 

[sdf777]

That's definitely a different concept that at the steriod.com forum.


PCT start times

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Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

 

[sweed]

anyone else bump

 

[sweed]

last bump

 

[Bruce]

fuck it i'll tell you from experience i started my pct 7 days after deca and the recovery was fine. kept all my gains. so i don't care what some site says about it. i like that site for drug profiles but not pct advice. i'll get that from the pros here at ef

 

[ruggermu]

Good luck, Bro! As you know that's the direction I was going until I was "nudged" in another direction. Sounds solid.

 

[Bruce]

i like that finish with the tbol enjoy, just hopped on 20 minutes ago myself, prop test e and deca

 

[sweed]

ya im going with my pct plan.
that sucks ruggers, maybe after the rugby season u can get back on the deca
i def can;t wait to try it out.

 

[ruggermu]

i like that finish with the tbol enjoy, just hopped on 20 minutes ago myself, prop test e and deca

yeah I've been anxious to try it.

 

[migcor]

Sweed looks like your on the right track.Good luck and good gains bro.

 

[sweed]

started already bruce!ahhhh! maybe i should start sooner to catch up! lol.

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Looks good big man. That's a lot of gear - you are going to turn into a monster.

Keep us updated.


Bluesman

 

[sweed]

Looks good big man. That's a lot of gear - you are going to turn into a monster.

Keep us updated.


Bluesman

eventally thats the plan. my next 2 cycles are going to be fun. once i start, ill make a log.

 

[sweed]

hmmmm, maybe i can just start it sooner
its just so damn tempting!

 

[Bruce]

started already bruce!ahhhh! maybe i should start sooner to catch up! lol.

as long as you took time off, hop on the train bro

 

[sweed]

as long as you took time off, hop on the train bro

leg is much much better, but still taking the rest of the week off to heal all the way, and also my body needs some rest from working out straight for over 5 months. then maybe after a week of getting back into it, i can start a week earlier

 

[Bruce]

hell yea. its great to feel that little sore knot in my ass again. you'll love the deca bro.

 

[bnutty187]

Sounds like a really good cycle, let us know how it ends up.

 

[Gman1]

the HCG is only gonna last round 6weeks once you mix it 8 tops, i would mix it and take it on week 7 and again week15 when you go off, HCG will shut you down just like AAS will if you take it long enough, so you wont get any benefit being on it for 14weeks strait, one week in the middle of the cycle, 1.5 and the end, plus your other PCT, if you want to run something run Clomid throughout, run Clomid, plus i dont think the HCG would last 14weeks hope you havnt mixed it yet...

 

[sweed]

a lot of guys run their hcg weekly throughout there cycles. once mixed with bac water the hcg is good for about 30 days. so more closer to 4 weeks, so i will be making a vial of my hcg every 4 weeks 3 times total. also, sorry u prob didn;t see i am starting in abot 3 weeks, so no i havn;t made up any yet, but i might start sooner, like 2 weeks. i did the midcycle hcg and pct hcg, im tryin this out this cycle becuase it kind of makes more sense. thanks for the input tho.

 

[JAV]

Hey Sweed,

I was also planning on a similar cycle tho the doses won't be as high.

I see you have Dostinex on hand... I understand this is for progesterone based gyno deca can cause.... (isn't it?)

Thing is, if you do feel signs of gyno, is there any way of knowing which kind it is? Or in that case would you simply start using both the Nolva and the Dostinex?

-j