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Intenceman said:
ewwwwwwwwwwww!!
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:confused: what are u saying ewww too?? I think Lenda, looks amazing,, yes her back is HUGE, she IMO is not overly big.. I am picking the figure physics over the bodybuilding but I still think some of the lightweight bodybuilders look good..

Look at Juliette Bergmann she looks awsome,, she is not too big i dont think and same with Valentina Chepiga....

Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. It just depends on how serious u take the sport.
 
To go against the grain of the majority of this thread so far - I LOVE the look of Lenda Murray and all the top bb's. It's no point us analysing their look as opposed to what you want to achieve, they have sacrificed way more than you or I could ever imagined to be where they are, and look the way they do. Accept it for what it is and appreciate what they stand for, not just their physical strength, but their inner strength. They have put up with those eewwww's for years.

These top bb women are great! They deserve our respect, not our criticism, especially on a bb forum!
 
I agree with AB - it's not necessarily the look I want for myself, but you can't argue with the fact Lenda has developed an amazing body. After all, it is bodybuilding.

I also agree some of it has gotten out of hand - especially in men's bodybuilding - but that's what the public pays for. I'd rather see men with the "Frank Zane" type of physique, personally. But the majority of the public who attend BB shows don't agree with me. :-)
 
I agree with JJ - I applaud and appreciate Lenda's physique for what it is, not what I desire for myself. She has a lot of muscle, and she carries it well; proportionate to her body frame. Too many bodybuilders (male and female) of late just look thick and chunky - muscle for muscle's sake, without regard for nice flowing lines and aesthetic balance relative to their frame.

My eyes are so accustomed to judging horses' conformation (the word for horse physique) where 'form to function' is the determining factor, that I look at human bodies in the same light. I'd like to see both male and female bodybuilding move in a direction that rewards quality over quantity, but unfortunately quality is more subjective and difficult to quantify.
 
AB said:
To go against the grain of the majority of this thread so far - I LOVE the look of Lenda Murray and all the top bb's. It's no point us analysing their look as opposed to what you want to achieve, they have sacrificed way more than you or I could ever imagined to be where they are, and look the way they do. Accept it for what it is and appreciate what they stand for, not just their physical strength, but their inner strength. They have put up with those eewwww's for years.

These top bb women are great! They deserve our respect, not our criticism, especially on a bb forum!
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I don't think they are eeeewwww but just a little to huge. I think Bergmann is a good role model.....her proportion and beautiful lines are great..and she is 43 or something like that!!

About the sacrifice issue.....yes they have sacrificed a lot this is true BUT don't let anyone fool you....they are on that stage because they have the nerve to take very large amounts of androgens. There are plenty of women on the board that have the genetics to be a top pro(Spatts for one) but they have choosen to be more moderate.

The biggest sacrifice is being willing to take 200 of test and 200 of nandrolone per week AS A MINIMUM dose. They also are willing to loose their female sounding voice and put up with a good deal of facial hair growth. I can respect their choice.

Please don't flame me....I respect these ladies. I just don't agree with the current focus on HUGENESS at any cost that is seen in both male and female bodybuilding today.

I was very happy when little Bergmann won last year and I thought that was the start of a change in female bodybuilding but it looks like I am wrong. Again Lenda Murrays body is not gross to me.

RG

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I think Lenda, Bergmann, Chepiga, Heather Lee (can't remember her new name), and a few others look like absolute goddesses - they carry their mass like queens and they deserve a great deal of respect for the incredible dedication they have for what they do. If it were a look achieveable without drugs, or even without copious amounts of drugs, you can be sure I would be in there, working my butt off for it.

That said, though, I have to admit that the genetic question comes into this a lot, because a lot of the top female pros, who obviously ALSO work as hard, simply look bad the size they are - I'm not sure if it's the size itself, or just the way it looks on particular people/frames.

I think that's the key really - some people can carry it, others just can't.

My 2 cents.
 
SteelWeaver said:
I think Lenda, Bergmann, Chepiga, Heather Lee (can't remember her new name), and a few others look like absolute goddesses - they carry their mass like queens and they deserve a great deal of respect for the incredible dedication they have for what they do. If it were a look achieveable without drugs, or even without copious amounts of drugs, you can be sure I would be in there, working my butt off for it.

That said, though, I have to admit that the genetic question comes into this a lot, because a lot of the top female pros, who obviously ALSO work as hard, simply look bad the size they are - I'm not sure if it's the size itself, or just the way it looks on particular people/frames.

I think that's the key really - some people can carry it, others just can't.

My 2 cents.
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I agree some seem to be able to hold the mass well and retain a sexy female look but some others look terrible and very masculine IMHO. I think Murray looks sexy but she can't hold a candle to Bergmann...eye of the beholder he he he

The glossy magazines would have you believe that the pro's are there simply because of hard work and great genetics..and okay they do use a little steroid.... HA!.... they are there because they are amongst a group that has good genetics BUT decided to use LARGE doses of androgens. I wish they would at least tell the truth!

I thought I was taking a lot of gear with 1 gram of test per week and 100mg of tren per day, and I was 250 lbs...thats peanuts...the top male pro's are on 4 grams of test plus GH plus insulin and other steroids too! The ladies take a minimum of 400mg of androgen per week and some also include GH and insulin!!

BTW the pro's don't work any "harder" than many recreational trainees. They are that way mostly because of steroids.

So although I respect the pro's and even admire some I don't hold them in high esteem simply because I am fully aware that there are plenty of men and women out there that could even beat them in competition but they choose to not abuse their bodies with long term mega doses of gear. (Spatts for one)

RG:)
 
The thing that really aggrevates me about the whole issue, is that as fitness buffs we are always criticising the 'model' look and girls who are aspiring to be ultra thin as being unhealthy and setting a bad example, yet at the same time we 'admire' the pro female bodybuilders who IMO are presenting an unhealthy appearance and lifestyle at the other end of the extreme.

Seems somewhat hypocritical don't you think.
 
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