1st cycle

[aidenXudfame]

you can get mantits from winni

Then what is good to stack with d-bol that will have the best chance of blocking estrogen, or will I have to get something separate to block it?

 

[holy ghost]

Didnt he break a rule by lying about his age in order to sign up for the forum?

 

[DM2007]

Man i was 17 when i done my first cycle i cant say anything. . . I was 17 135lbs, now im 20 and 200lbs at 5'10

 

[slat1]

Reminds me of the gay kid on MTV True Life: I am on steroids.

The kid didn't know anything about working out yet hopped on and thought he looked different. He didn't.
This whole thread screams I think I know what I am doing when he doesn't.
High protein and a high caloric intake don't mean shit.
I see this all the time at the gym.
Its laughable.
Then again at that age I thought I knew everything too.
Here are the results from this cycle...
Lower test levels for the rest of his life thus smaller size then if he never used steroids.
What a waste.
I am out!

 

[Trendsetter21]

No offense here but you're a total moron to be thinking about taking steroids at your point in life.
If you've never worked out before why the hell would you be thinking about jumping on the r0id wagon?... Would you put jet fuel into a brand new race car and without breaking it in... beat the absolute FUCK out of it? Hell no, cuz it would break.. and be worthless.

What I'm trying to say is that you are whey to new to the game to be thinking about steroids.
You need to come up with a solid allocated amount of time where you can go to the gym, pump pump pump and rest and EAT.
Once you get that down, you'll notice gains...
From there, you can go get yourself a nice creatine product and protein powder and start to understand supplementation.
You'll want atleast 3-5 years of SERIOUS weight lifting under your belt before you even THINK about using anabolic androgenic steroids.

With this said. Go look at other posts on this board. Theres great info that'll get you results you want without AAS. Hope ya don't get toooo flamed for this
PEACE

While he's showing you tough love I can't go against what he says. Seriously you never lifted weights and your only 17 years old? Why would you try to take a shortcut. Work for it. Make a meal plan and stick with it, same with a training routine. Try to eat 7-8 meals a day, and training 4-5 days a week for a year and you'll see amazing results. You need to learn discipline before you start abusing steroids, cuz thats exactly what you would be doing. To many people think steroids are the answer without taking into consideration their crappy diets or training routines. If you get the first two down, there's no need for you to start steroids until you are in your mid to late 20's I would say. I know many kids that took steroids in high school and were bigger than me in high school and now are a lot smaller and pathetic looking. Without the discipline your really wasting your money.

 

[aidenXudfame]

Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man

 

[Trendsetter21]

Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man

Everyone already gave you advice, if you want to shut down your natural testosterone production thats fine. But being on steroids the rest of your life is going to be very expensive for you. If you came here for advice, and you get really good advice and still decide not to take it. There's no reason to give you any more advice that you obviously aren't going to listen to, I've watched kids like you in the gym since I was 16, I was the small guy then, but with proper diet and training I'm one of the stronger guys in my gym now...........Oh yeah and thats all natural, when I turn 30 I'm going on HRT which will bring my testosterone levels to normal levels, you should really take a look at what veterans are saying and realize that they know a lot more than you.

 

[centy]

Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man

Jesus, man. Read what others are saying. Start steroids now and you'll be fucked later. You don't need steroids at that young age. Your body is making plenty of testosterone. In fact, look at it like this: Your natural testosterone levels are equal to what mine are when I take steroids. Consider yourself already "there."

You don't know what you are doing. Your aren't the biggest idiot in the gym - nobody is saying that. But you are not advanced enough to start taking gear. Remember - steroids are very powerful drugs.

Eat like a horse and develop a better workout routine. You want a pump? Take some Amplify2 before a workout. You'll be a fking animal. Supplement with creatine. Do that and I guarantee that you will gain more lean mass and keep it than you will with steroids. You are sure to lose most of any gains you make on steroids.

Plus, fuck with your hormonal system now, and prepare to deal with problems for the rest of your life.

One last thing: Remember, the people here who are telling you not to do steroids are not a bunch of fucking church ladies - many are very experienced in the field and will be the first to tell you the great benefits of the drugs they take. Listen to them.

 

[centy]

I know most of the feedback has been negative, but I'm still going to follow through. I know its not good for my body at this time and but I dont want to wait another 5 years to get big. At my size, steroids is about the only thing that will help my size. I already have a healthy diet and my protein and caloric intake are high. I just want to know the BEST way I can do this, even though there is really no good way at this time. Along with the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - I'm taking Winni-V because I read several times if you stack the two, you won't lose as much on an off cycle, and winni-v does a good job of blocking estrogen. During or after my cycle, should I be taking test booster to keep my testosterone up or estrogen blockers or what? Also is there anything to take to keep my liver in shape? I plan to work out 4-5 times a week, taking the steroids during the week and not taking them on weekends and just pumping hard on weekends so my liver has a chance to somewhat get back to normal with a little break. So basically, I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.

Whoops. I just read this post. Obviously, you are very determined (and stubborn.) Too bad you are not going to apply those traits in the proper place. You are an idiot and you will fuck yourself up.

 

[Selfcentor]

Man i was 17 when i done my first cycle i cant say anything. . . I was 17 135lbs, now im 20 and 200lbs at 5'10

Weak