1st cycle

[rfowler]

I think the cycle is perfectly planned, all oral cycles are awesome, hes never lifted a weight so his receptors will be fresh. Hes obviously very advanced for a 17 year old.....I say go for it........also dont waste time with estrogen control and such either bro, dbol is notorious for giving you awesome mantits. dont let anyone tell you different hard pecs are a thing of the past. The new thing is to let your mantits get as big as possible so when they start to itch remember thats a good thing bro not a bad thing. While were taking an all oral cycle shit add in cheque drops bro....a healthy liver is highly overrated anyway so fuk it.
You can tell by my post I think you need to go back to drawing board and forget about steroids for a while.

 

[hyp1]

Hey I'm new to the whole bodybuilding thing, and I'm not sure if this is the right spot for this thread but here goes. Im 17 years old and have been skinny my whole life and want to get bigger. I have read up alot about taking steroids and have made up my mind about what i want to take. I have heard for a 1st cycle taking Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is a waste of time and I will lose most of my gains(weight and muscle), so I decided to stack a 4-week supply of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - with a 4 week supply of winni-v. The only other thing I'm going to take while on cycle is protein and eat healthy and get good rest. I have never worked out before so before I go through with this, I'm going to work out hard for a good month then stack. After my cycle I plan to take an off cycle month and just pump hard and the month following stack halodrol with methandrol, as several of my friends got good results taking it. I;d like as much input as possible, positive or negative I'm all ears. Thanks guys

no offense but you have no business touching gear at your age,your body is ALREADY flooded with natural testosterone.........and besides you could seal your bones growth plates and stunt your growth,not to mention permanently fucking up your natural testosterone production for life(wouldn't it seriously fucking suck if you had to permanently be on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life due to a really greedy decision for an attempted 'quick fix'?instead of actually putting in the time and dedication that you actually need)

at 17 years old you haven't trained long enough to obtain muscle maturity,most likely don't even have proper training techniques and your diet down either.to achieve optimum results with gear you will need all of those factors and if you don't have your shit together you will most likely be just wasting your time and putting your body at risk.

my recommendation is for you to increase your protein and caloric intake,educate yourself on training techniques,train hard and heavy but with clean form until you reach the age of 22.then educate yourself on proper steroid cycles,and steroid profiles,post cycle therapy,aromatase inhibitor's and serms.......then and only then can you make a wise decision.

best of luck to you

 

[holy ghost]

IM WITH HYP AND SLAT, hyp, its almost like a kick in the face, hes got all this natty test and WE resort to endogenous becuase we cant match his.

GREAT POINT ABOUT UNDERSTAND WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE EATING SLAT.

 

[2raptors]

Gods...I've been lifting, training for strength my whole life....and have known about and looked into steriods for YEARS....I'm only "just" becoming fed up enough with my poor genes to try it out.... at 17...I was 5'10, 170lbs...and a black-belt in Karate and Kendo...I went into the Navy...and by the time I was OUT...I was 6'2, 220lbs!!!

DUDE...give yourself a chance to GROW UP...much less GROW. Join the military, TRAIN HARD.... work on doing something that every teen should do..... EAT< EAT< EAT!!!

I think that if you eat and train hard...you could probably even find a mentor in your gym....I can bet that EVERY serious lifter will steer you AWAY from AS. Give yourself, and the wonderful machine the gods gave you (called..>YOUR BODY) a chance naturally.... at least until you are MUCH older!!!!

 

[Selfcentor]

Wait till 22 or 23 like ghost or hype said i think.

 

[nemesis 2027]

IM WITH HYP AND SLAT, hyp, its almost like a kick in the face, hes got all this natty test and WE resort to endogenous becuase we cant match his.

GREAT POINT ABOUT UNDERSTAND WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE EATING SLAT.

Exactly!! I would give almost anything to be his age (again) and know what I know now about proper training, proper nutrition, etc.. I'd make my natty test flow like hot lava from a volcano, and wouldn't even consider gear!

These are very different times for young weight trainers. Better information, and quality legal supps all around..

Do not even consider it at your age, and not even in your early 20's. You will waste your money and jeopordize your health.

 

[aidenXudfame]

I know most of the feedback has been negative, but I'm still going to follow through. I know its not good for my body at this time and but I dont want to wait another 5 years to get big. At my size, steroids is about the only thing that will help my size. I already have a healthy diet and my protein and caloric intake are high. I just want to know the BEST way I can do this, even though there is really no good way at this time. Along with the d-bol I'm taking Winni-V because I read several times if you stack the two, you won't lose as much on an off cycle, and winni-v does a good job of blocking estrogen. During or after my cycle, should I be taking test booster to keep my testosterone up or estrogen blockers or what? Also is there anything to take to keep my liver in shape? I plan to work out 4-5 times a week, taking the steroids during the week and not taking them on weekends and just pumping hard on weekends so my liver has a chance to somewhat get back to normal with a little break. So basically, I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.

 

[holy ghost]

winny DOES NOT BLOCK ESTROGEN.

THIS IS A HARM PREVENTION BOARD.

shame on yall!

 

[nemesis 2027]

I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.

You're not getting the 'real message' here. It's not about the negative feedback. There is NO best way for you to take them and keep your body as normal as possible.. sheeze!! Christ, you're a kid.. grow up first..

'Haste makes waste'.... Nothing could be a truer statement concerning this.

 

[rfowler]

Winstrol - stanozolol DOES NOT BLOCK ESTROGEN.

THIS IS A HARM PREVENTION BOARD.

shame on yall!

you can get mantits from winni