1st cycle, eating confusion

[DeltsMagee]

Hi everybody,

so 1st lets get the details down, 5ft7 175, id say 11-12% bf at start of cycle, 29 yrs old

test e 250 Mon & Thurs
deca 250 mon

plan is deca 8wks test 10wks

ok so half way through 4th week and i am up about 8 lbs....seems good but im am really notocing some fat now and i think this may be due to impatience and lack of knowledge about expectations, and when and how to boost calories when on a cycle.

So my diet was

50gm p
30grm c
15gm f

per meal x 6 meals per day

and as measured by diabetic exchange (only count main source; so if taking 50gms of oats that is 30gm carbs dont count the fat and protein from it)

ok so when the gains stoped (mid wk 2) i upped the carbs to 45

the trouble is i weighed myself every morning and if weight stalled for 3 days i would up it again so eventually i was eating

60p
60c
20f

thing is I have noticable fat gain so my questions:

1, have i been impatient for the weight gains?? when do you guys start seeing the weight gain on a cycle (btw i haven't noticed a abnormal strength increase over when not on a cycle)

2, when you are on a cycle does your weight go up in unpredictable jumps... like maybe no increase for a few days them boom up a pound or two???

3, how often and by how much do you increase cals when "on", when would you say to yourself ok i havent gained weight in x days its time to increase?

if i think of any other questions I will post em if thats ok

I really want to make the best out of this cycle (don't plan on doing many) so any advice would be greatly appreciated

oh yeah 4, how long after pct would you guys say it is safe to start a cut without loosing (of course i understand its always a danger) my on cycle gains??

Thanks so so much

 

[DeltsMagee]

oh and if it helps here is my food sources

chicken
tuna
whole wheat pasta
whole wheat bread (sparringly)
olive oil
nuts
all veggies (cept brussel sprouts of course lol)
all fruits
salmon
eggs
milk
oats (alot of)
p nut butter
potatoes (sometimes)

 

[stevesmi]

you are gonna put on fat on a mass cycle like that.

i went from 9% to 14% on a 12 week deca/sust/dball cycle. as long as you look bigger and are stronger dont let the scales bother you.

heck i'm 5 6 and 191 pounds and i have no moon face. yet i know guys who are my height and 15 pounds less that look obese.

i accept that my stomach is missing a 6 pack at this time. it doesn't bother me at all.

my next cycle I am shooting for a more vascular look with primo and sustanon.

 

[joe d]

be patient. stick with the 60/20/20 and drink tons of water. add some need2slin at 3 caps ed and gear at 10 caps ed. this will help you put the food into the muscle

 

[C.K.]

Your estro and prog levels are probably elevated hense the fat storage...

 

[stevesmi]

Your estro and prog levels are probably elevated hense the fat storage...

true.
formestane helped me this time around avoid the deca moon face.

 

[-SD-]

most everyone bloats/fats out on first cycle, especially if its just test/deca stack. keep the diet in check like joe d said.

 

[jhkram]

Isn't 8 weeks on Decca a very short cycle (I usually run double that)?!

 

[eClenbuterol]

Isn't 8 weeks on Decca a very short cycle (I usually run double that)?!

not for some, any longer and deca dI*K sets in,other have ran longer with no problems

 

[DeltsMagee]

Hey thanks everybody I'll keep on going at thins rate and keep an eye on bf.

Thanks very much