14 day DNP journal

[dragonslayer76]

Ok, so if one was to take his DNP, say at 600mg a day, then how much and for how long would you use the t3? No clen should be added correct?

 

[bigrand]

Golden, i thought i remember you saying using str8 DNP, not the salt was not smart considereing all the historical research was done with the salt?

Ive been preaching 400mg plain DNP for days, it works great, i never have any problems except feeling miserably hot.

Of course he had acid stomach, DNP has a PH of around 1-2, its highly acidic.

Anti os and glycerol have been disscucced before.

Anyone who takes DNP should know these things and follow this cycle, all the literature floating around here over the past several years will tell you that.

 

[bigbuzz]

Holy shit you guys really fucking take that shit just be careful and dont OD bro

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Golden, i thought i remember you saying using str8 DNP, not the salt was not smart considereing all the historical research was done with the salt?

Ive been preaching 400mg plain DNP for days, it works great, i never have any problems except feeling miserably hot.

Of course he had acid stomach, DNP has a PH of around 1-2, its highly acidic.

Anti os and glycerol have been disscucced before.

Anyone who takes DNP should know these things and follow this cycle, all the literature floating around here over the past several years will tell you that.

thats true, but when i looked into it a bit more I actually started to favour the parent molecule because it is less soluble in aqueous solutions (ie gastric juices) resulting in a slower, more sustained uptake of the drug than with the salt. also, i figured that there would be a fair amount of the parent molecule produced in the stomach as a result of consuming the salt, since a highly acidic environment (like the stomach) will result in conversion of the salt back into the parent molecule. Im starting to think that there is a lower overall bioavailability of the parent molecule over the salt, so people will underdose rather than overdose. (which is great).

besides, im not a huge fan of people making their own DNP-Na+ by boiling something like DNP with sodium bicarbonate...its iffy enough as it is.

dragonslayer: if i could find a link to the patent i was chatting about, i could give you a spot on answer. logically though, all you would do is maintain normal physiological amounts of t3 (maybe a little less to minimise catabolism). being without t3 slows fat loss by quite a bit, particularly later in the cycle.

and no, i wouldnt use clen. what for? DNP rips off a pound a day or so on a low-medium dose so why on earth would you bother? i would use the clen afterwards, though.

 

[kbrkbr]

Good stuff, GD. Thank you.

 

[dragonslayer76]

Great, thanks! If you do happen across that article, let us know.

 

[EngiCream]

Nice journal!

Is this the patent you were talking about?

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...,673,691.WKU.&OS=PN/4,673,691&RS=PN/4,673,691

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Saturday 30/4/04 waking weight 84.6 fuck I feel good not being on this drug anymore. The sweating has slowed down a lot already. I mean, I sweat, but I live in the tropics, so I sweat normally anyway. YOU try living in 33 degree 80% humidity and see if you don’t sweat. Im curious to see how fast the drug clears my system. I get the impression it will be faster than the 36 hour half life quoted in the literature. We shall see. 7:00pm. Quite interesting. Sweating did not occur. Muscles are starting to blow up again (arms dipped to 15 ¾ last night, then 15 7/8 this morning, and now are sneaking up on 16” chest still flat as a pancake though. Back musculature is not quite at that nice ripped stage it was in the first couple of days, but in tight shirts I can see some shoulder blade and scapular muscles protruding (yipee!) I am drinking water anf glycerol like a madman, my stomach feels fit to pop, but I am barely at 85.0kg. I wonder if I have actually lost some fat today…that would be hilarious.

Sunday 1/5/04
Waking weight (no toilet break) 84.2. I have developed hives on the backs of my hands, inner left forearm, left bicep area, inner right forearm, and a couple on my ankles. Currently using a medium dose sedating antihistamine (phenergan; promethazine) to reduce histaminic response, and a corticosteroidal cream (hydrocortisone) on the area to reduce inflammation. Therapy is working very well. I will continue on low dose less sedating antihistamines for the next week. 8pm more hives on knuckles on hands and feet. Somewhat responsive to corticosteroids and less sedating antihistamine. Problem areas seem to be near any thickened skin or scar tissue, weirdly.

Monday 2/5/04
Waking weight 84.8. did a great chest and tri workout yesterday, drank a lot of water, salt and glycerol (hope to speed up glycogen production) must say I look much better today. Cheast has filled out, waist/abdomen looks tighter. Arms sneaking back to 16 inches again. Had massive food cravings all night. Urine color back to normal. Hives still present, keeping them at bay with antihistamines at present. Note about hives: they manifested after 15 days of the drug being present, as it was decreasing in concentration. The only other variable is that I had 3 other drugs that night (one of them alcohol-light beer) one of them codiene, one of them paracetamol. I was sitting on some couches in a club, so it may be that some other antigen (apart from dnp) caused the hives. Cannot elucidate source anyway. On a side note, mental clarity has returned.

engicream: i have to step out, ill look in a tic

 

[bigrand]

Use quercertin throughout, prevents histamine reaction from happening to begin with.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

thanks bigrand i already told him

any of the new antihistamines (less sedating) for about five half lives after the cycle