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12 week Test E, Dbol, EQ cycle.

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kunnt

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Stats:
198lbs (90kg)
12 - 13% BF
6'
Training 4 years, (last year has been full on no bullshit dedication)
Bench: 308lbs (140kg)
Squat: 400lbs (180kg)
Dead: 484lbs (220kg)

Cycle:
1 - 4, 30mg dbol
1 - 13, 500mg Test E
1 - 12, 600mg EQ

15 - 18, Nolva 20/20/10/10
15 - 18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
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I am planning to use this thread as more of a diary and to learn more about the use of aas, so i would also appreciate any comments/feedback as i will take them on board as constructive criticism etc. :biggrin:

On day 5 now and i know the dbol hasnt just yet kicked in but i feel juiceyy. Looking in the mirror it may be just a psychological/placebo boost but i simply cannot wait to see what this journey has in store for me. I hope to gain 15 - 20lbs as lean as possible, hence the EQ, as i can hold on to my gains more easily and not look bloated as F**K during it.

Calories at the moment are about 3600 - 4000. Macros being: 300g protein, 400g carbs, 90g fat. This is my minimum quota but as i work a demanding job :Chef: i allow myself another increase in calories if i feel i hit a body part very hard that day or if work was extra busy.

Sources of carbs are Oats, Rice (basmati or brown), Wholemeal Pasta, Wholemeal bread (very seldom), sauces, and sugary carbs post workout. also allow myself 1 or 2 cheat meals per week. (after a heavy leg or back day)

Protein: Chicken fillets, Tuna, Eggs, Whey, Beef

Fats: Nuts, Meat, Oils, Supplements (omega 3s etc).

I have done 1 previous cycle last february of test e for 10 weeks. Again, i watched my diet like a hawk, and made a 15lb increase with sub fat gain. Strength gains were great as i had become stronger than i ever was at a lighter weight and leaner bodyfat %. My pct was the same as i plan for this one.

My favorite day = BACK DAY is tomorrow :D and have not deadlifted in months due to LEG DAY conflicting on my old split. feeling pumped and cannot wait for some barbell rows!!!
 
EQ should be ran longer at around 16 weeks to get the full effect, so I would stretch the cycle out a bit longer to get the most benefit and you might as well run the test that long as well.

I see no mention of an AI ran on cycle. You should be using something like aromasin, Fomrastanozol or Liquidex AI from N2BM on cycle for estrogen control.

You should be using a complete cycle support product like N2guard on cycle as well

Nolva and C.omid combo is not enough for PCT and is outdated. There is much better options for recovery nowadays, so here is a perfect PCT for you

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Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
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RickRock13 said:
EQ should be ran longer at around 16 weeks to get the full effect, so I would stretch the cycle out a bit longer to get the most benefit and you might as well run the test that long as well.

I see no mention of an AI ran on cycle. You should be using something like aromasin, Fomrastanozol or Liquidex AI from N2BM on cycle for estrogen control.

You should be using a complete cycle support product like N2guard on cycle as well

Nolva and C.omid combo is not enough for PCT and is outdated. There is much better options for recovery nowadays, so here is a perfect PCT for you

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS and
Ostarine 25mg per day
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I have heard since it has a long ester it is always reommended to cycle EQ for at least 16 weeks. but my initial plans were to keep it at 12 weeks since it is only my 2nd cycle. is 16 weeks not a bit heavy??

Regards to an AI, i can get arimidex if any symptoms show, so that is no problem. i will probably get it asap as it is obviously logical to keep in on hand at all times.

I was looking into articles on needto's supplements and i can definately see reasons for their use but since i have the nolva and clomid now ill stick with it, might throw in some HCGenerate towards the end of my cycle? but for future ones where i will introduce heavier compounds i will of course invest in them
 
Back session yesterday was tough. kept deadlifts at 180kg. since i done them at the start of the workout my bent over rows slacked a little (110kg) but an awesome pump was generated :D! did not have time to finish my biceps as i was running late for work. Tomorrow is the start of a new week and of course the first body part of the week to get destroyed is my delts and triceps (i feel these are lacking so i introduce them at the start when i have had a rest day over the weekend)! I will also weigh-in when i wake up and go for a pi$$!! :)
 
kunnt said:
I have heard since it has a long ester it is always reommended to cycle EQ for at least 16 weeks. but my initial plans were to keep it at 12 weeks since it is only my 2nd cycle. is 16 weeks not a bit heavy??

Regards to an AI, i can get arimidex if any symptoms show, so that is no problem. i will probably get it asap as it is obviously logical to keep in on hand at all times.

I was looking into articles on needto's supplements and i can definately see reasons for their use but since i have the nolva and clomid now ill stick with it, might throw in some HCGenerate towards the end of my cycle? but for future ones where i will introduce heavier compounds i will of course invest in them
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You can run the EQ for 12 weeks, but you just seen yourself a little short on its full benefits by not going 16. There won't be much difference in terms of suppression between 12 and 16 weeks. Both will shut you down hard. If you want to run your Nolva and Clomid combo that's fine, but at least throw some Test stack in there for your recovery at the minimum.

HCGenerate is good to run on cycle for minimizing suppression

Definitely have your AI on hand as well. I it's generally not a good idea to wait for symptoms before running one either. That's a good way to end up with a set of tits
 
bro, if your not going to run it 16 weeks then save your money and run something else... your just wasting it if you don't run it the full time... you will be missing out on some of the best gains from it weeks 13-16
 
so you guys reckon its a wiser idea to extend both test and eq to 16 weeks. is it better to throw in an extra week of test due to the longer ester of eq?
 
kunnt said:
Stats:
198lbs (90kg)
12 - 13% BF
6'
Training 4 years, (last year has been full on no bullshit dedication)
Bench: 308lbs (140kg)
Squat: 400lbs (180kg)
Dead: 484lbs (220kg)

Cycle:
1 - 4, 30mg dbol
1 - 13, 500mg Test E
1 - 12, 600mg EQ

15 - 18, Nolva 20/20/10/10
15 - 18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
........................................................

I am planning to use this thread as more of a diary and to learn more about the use of aas, so i would also appreciate any comments/feedback as i will take them on board as constructive criticism etc. :biggrin:

On day 5 now and i know the dbol hasnt just yet kicked in but i feel juiceyy. Looking in the mirror it may be just a psychological/placebo boost but i simply cannot wait to see what this journey has in store for me. I hope to gain 15 - 20lbs as lean as possible, hence the EQ, as i can hold on to my gains more easily and not look bloated as F**K during it.

Calories at the moment are about 3600 - 4000. Macros being: 300g protein, 400g carbs, 90g fat. This is my minimum quota but as i work a demanding job :Chef: i allow myself another increase in calories if i feel i hit a body part very hard that day or if work was extra busy.

Sources of carbs are Oats, Rice (basmati or brown), Wholemeal Pasta, Wholemeal bread (very seldom), sauces, and sugary carbs post workout. also allow myself 1 or 2 cheat meals per week. (after a heavy leg or back day)

Protein: Chicken fillets, Tuna, Eggs, Whey, Beef

Fats: Nuts, Meat, Oils, Supplements (omega 3s etc).

I have done 1 previous cycle last february of test e for 10 weeks. Again, i watched my diet like a hawk, and made a 15lb increase with sub fat gain. Strength gains were great as i had become stronger than i ever was at a lighter weight and leaner bodyfat %. My pct was the same as i plan for this one.

My favorite day = BACK DAY is tomorrow :D and have not deadlifted in months due to LEG DAY conflicting on my old split. feeling pumped and cannot wait for some barbell rows!!!
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Definetly need a AI like A-Dex or letro to run along with it. EQ like everyone said should only be used on a 16 week cycle and if you want you can add proviron to your cycle at 50mg a day. 25mg in the morning and 25mg at night.
 
yeah i think ill look into getting another vial of eq and a box of test. also some adex, but is it really necessary to run it continuously, especially if there are no experience of sides? or is it more of a rather be safe than sorry scenario? whats the thought behind proviron? like i said previously it is only my 2nd cycle, 1st being a test ONLY, ive already thrown in 2 new compounds i dont want to take the pi$$ with a 3rd
 
weighed myself today, 91 or so kg, but felt very dehydrated. dont think ive been drinking nearly enough water

shoulder and tricep session was decent, no new boundaries smashed but an unreal pump... especially in my triceps.
breakdown of workout:
dumbbell shoulder press
17.5kg x 12
25 x 10
30 x 8
35 x 8 (last rep forced)
37.5 x 6 (last 2 forced)

behind the head press (smith)
55kg x 10
75 x 8 (last one forced)
55 x 10 (last 2 forced)

dumbbell side lateral raise
12.5 x 12
15 x 10
17.5 x 10
20 x 10, 15 x 4 (drop set on cables)

reverse fly (cables)
15 x 10
15 x 10

front shrug (smith)
95kg x 15
135 x 12
155 x 10
135 x 10, 95 x 10 (drop set)

close grip bench
60kg x 10
100 x 9 (last one forced)
110 x 4 (last one forced)

cable push downs
70kg x 12
80 x 8
80 x 6, 55 x 6

dips until failure x 1

food intake has been epic, 130g oats with a teaspoon of honey with 12 egg whites and 4 yolks, scrambled (with ketchup of course ;) )
300g basmati ate throughout the day with 600g of chicken breast. had some oatcakes with nutella and a cup of coffee pre workout and bought a bottle of post workout protein (im all out of whey :( )
another can of tuna and a bit of egg whites before i go to bed.
 
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leg session was truly an hour from hell... got an insane pump in my legs which left my head feeling like a hot air balloon reaching for the bucket. i dont know whether its the dbol that im getting these pumps or not but it feels unreal.

squat (ATG :D)
60kg warm up
100kg warm up
140 x 8
160 x 4
130 x 12

Leg press
350kg x 8
450 x 8
500 x 8

quad extension
45kg x 10
55 x 10
65 x 8

hamstring curls
45kg x 12
55 x 10
50 x 8
20 x 10 (single leg)
20 x 10

smith calf raises
95kg x 15
135 x 12
175 x 12
175 x 12

seated calf raise
60kg x 12
80 x 10, 60 x 6, 40 x 8 (drop set)

judging by my tshirt after training i think i need another 5 litres of water to replace lost fluids :) cheat meal now at mcd's: qtr pounder, big mac and fries. then clean until this time next week. rest day tomorrow
 
kunnt said:
how did you find your gains? dry, lean, manageable, could you keep it all??
what were your stats before/after?
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I ran a 16 week cycle. 10 included EQ. 12 included Primo. Both at 400 mg/week. Test for 16 weeks at 300 mg. Started and finished with Var. 100 mg/day for 4 weeks to start and 50 for 4 weeks to finish. I'm in PCT now. I started at 5'11" 190 lbs and 15-16% bf. I got down to 171 lbs and 8% bf? I lost a lot of fat and gained solid muscle. All my lifts were up. Problem was muscles kept screaming "more weight more weight!" But tendons and ligaments were like "hell no hell no!". Very solid and dry muscle gains.

Db incline bench went from 80 lbs to 95 lbs for 12 reps. Leg press from 450x12 to 750x12. Pull-ups from 16 reps to 22. Cable pulls from 160 to 280x12. Honestly though, biggest difference maker was intermittent fasting.

Today I'm 176 lbs and 9% bf. But I've gotten looser with my diet. I'm very happy with my results. Strength gains have all been kept. I'm still gaining actually. And I'm more ripped than ever in my life.
 
Its not necessary to run A-dex all the way through, just every now and then to keep the estrogenic sides away. Proviron I threw in there because it has alot of benefits when run along a cycle, it helps control estrogen levels aswel as increasing the amount of free test in your body. The result of high free test levels is a nice defined hard look. Its just synergistic to the test. Realy allows a person to gain every thing from the test you take aswel as keeping alot of estrogen from being produced as it has a high affinity to bind with the aromatase receptors
 
dangerboy857 said:
I ran a 16 week cycle. 10 included EQ. 12 included Primo. Both at 400 mg/week. Test for 16 weeks at 300 mg. Started and finished with Var. 100 mg/day for 4 weeks to start and 50 for 4 weeks to finish. I'm in PCT now. I started at 5'11" 190 lbs and 15-16% bf. I got down to 171 lbs and 8% bf? I lost a lot of fat and gained solid muscle. All my lifts were up. Problem was muscles kept screaming "more weight more weight!" But tendons and ligaments were like "hell no hell no!". Very solid and dry muscle gains.

Db incline bench went from 80 lbs to 95 lbs for 12 reps. Leg press from 450x12 to 750x12. Pull-ups from 16 reps to 22. Cable pulls from 160 to 280x12. Honestly though, biggest difference maker was intermittent fasting.

Today I'm 176 lbs and 9% bf. But I've gotten looser with my diet. I'm very happy with my results. Strength gains have all been kept. I'm still gaining actually. And I'm more ripped than ever in my life.
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nice one dude and what was your PCT like??
 
Analyst22 said:
Its not necessary to run A-dex all the way through, just every now and then to keep the estrogenic sides away. Proviron I threw in there because it has alot of benefits when run along a cycle, it helps control estrogen levels aswel as increasing the amount of free test in your body. The result of high free test levels is a nice defined hard look. Its just synergistic to the test. Realy allows a person to gain every thing from the test you take aswel as keeping alot of estrogen from being produced as it has a high affinity to bind with the aromatase receptors
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yeah ill definately get some id rather be safe and look good too. that proviron sounds similar to masteron in terms of suppressing estrogen?
 
so chest day today! epic day indeed, had an early workout though because of work and felt a bit sh!t at the start but after i warmed up i felt excellent.
I will only mention working sets anymore to save time.
Incline Dumbbell Press:
40kg x 12
45 x 6 (last 2 forced)

Decline Bench Press:
100kg x 6 (easy)
120 x 7 (last one forced)

cable crossovers:
50kg x 8
50 x 6, 35 x 6 (drop set)

Dips:
20kg x 10
40 x 6

Tricep Pushdowns:
80kg x 10
90 x 6, 70 x 6 (drop set)

no progression so far on my chest workout but its early time yet ;)! felt big and i noticed a difference when pumped though! keeping my diet clean and hitting my macros every day, so i feel great at the moment. will make sure to keep this up.
now, off to jab my glutes :)!
 
done back yesterday:
Bent over barbell rows:
2 warm up sets,
100kg x 8
120kg x 8
130kg x 6

T-bar Rows
3 plates x 12
4 plates x 10
5 plates x 8
5 ½ plates x 6

Lat Pulldowns:
80 x 10
90 x 8
90 x 6

Seated Rows:
70 kg x 10
90 x 8
100 x 8

EZ - bar Curl:
27.5kg x 10 (x7) 30 secs rest, FST-7

Sets in bold are new PB's, great pump like usual and today i have pain in my biceps which i have not experienced in a while :D! love it! been busy with work last 2 days, today was a rest day. im off tomorrow so its shoulders tomorrow with either biceps (if they have recovered) or triceps.
pinning is going well ive done glutes last 2 weeks but its so fuck!ng awkward i might try start on quads. i do wonder is 2.5ml too much for the quads to handle
 
stevesmi said:
4 week pct after a 15 week or so cycle makes zero sense.

the esters will take 6 weeks just to clear.. so you will finish pct with esters still in the body .. pct needs to be 8-10 weeks
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so the longer the cycle the more the esters build up on each other? i didnt think of that! so ill just prolong my pct? is it harder to recover from a 16 week as opposed to a 12, thats the only thing holding me back from extending my cycle.
 
last night i think i aggravated my rotator cuff, i have no idea how maybe through an awkward movement, so i could not train shoulders today as i was in slight pain. so i decided to go ahead with a leg day, ill see how my shoulders are like tomorrow. i hope i can hit them hard.

squats (ass to f%cking grass :D):
2 warm up sets
140kg x 8
130kg x 15

walking lunges:
60kg x 20
70kg x 18
80kg x 18

stiff leg deadlifts:
60kg x 12
100kg x 10
120kg x 8

hamstring curls: (i trained at a different gym this time, they did not have weight numbers on the machine plates, im not sure what weight they were)
11 plates x 15
14 plates x 8
14 plates x 8 (last 2 forced with negative)
4 plates x 15 (single leg)
7 plates x 10 (single leg, last 2 forced with neg)

calf raises (machine, superset with leg press)
100kg x 15, 170 x 10
140kg x 15, 170 x 10
140kg x 12, 170 x 10

not a heavy session but intense, and a PB in the squat at 130, as i got 3 reps more than last tuesday, small, but every progression counts. i went for a cheat meal afterwards in mcdonalds and showed my face at a party, had a beer, got a girls number, had some chicken and went home. i feel really dehydrated these days i must up my water intake, every morning i wake up my mouths as dry as a nuns crack. tomorrow i'll weigh in
 
RickRock13 said:
Nice numbers so far bro
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cheers dude i can't wait to see how far i get. a lot of people tell themselves they need to/want to gain x amount of weight or push x amount. but i have not a clue how far my body will go when i put everything into it, so i find it hard to gauge the end result. do you have an idea what to expect every cycle or do you go into it openly?
 
my left shoulder was still nagging a bit but i made sure to warm up well, was a nice workout in the end.
DB Shoulder Press:
3 warm up sets, 20kg, 30kg, 35kg
40kg x 6 (last 2 forced)

Smith Machine Behind the Neck Press:
55kg x 8
75kg x 6
65kg x 6

DB Side Lateral Raises:
10kg x 12
15kg x 12
15kg x 10

20kg x 8 (cables)
20kg x 8 (cables, last 2 forced)

Reverse Flyes:
10kg x 10
12.5kg x 10

Shrugs:
Reverse,
95kg x 15
135kg x 15
175kg x 12

Front,
135kg x 15
135kg x 12

Barbell Bicep Curls:
40kg x 10
50kg x 6
50kg x 6

Alternating Hammer Curls:
15kg x 16
17.5kg x 16
20kg x 16

Single Arm Preacher Curl Machine:
40kg x 8
40kg x 8

I didnt go into this workout with the pumped up mindset i usually have due to my annoying pain in the shoulder but it turned into quite a decent workout, lifted 40's (90lbs) which is new grounds for me. great pump in shoulders, traps and biceps. feel quite tired now though and forcing water into me, feeling thirsty constantly. is this a side effect of dbol?
 
thank god christmas season is now over. work has been raping me up the ass the last 2 weeks. havent had a chance to update this, but so far all has been going well. i was at 96kg (+6kg) last week and i will weigh myself come monday. i stopped the dbol last sunday. i upped the dosage after the first week or so to 40mg daily after some advice. i got great pumps and some slight strength increases from the dbol. but to be honest the biggest change has been last week and this week. must be the test and eq kicking in. i got 180kg squats for 3 on tuesday which is a new PR and ive been back to deadlifting. 220kg felt way too easy to be a 1 rep max so i will try increase that either tomorrow or saturday depending on how my hamstrings are feeling after tuesday.
sizewise my lats and overall back has seen a massive difference and shoulders are popping out more. legs are getting bigger and jeans are getting tighter, love it!
TODAY IS CHEST DAY, and of course pin day, which i will do after my post, and then eat some oats and chicken, drink some coffee and get pumped for this session. will update later
 
very good chest session, looking leaner and more fibrous, must be the omittance of the dbol!

incline db press:
2 x warm ups
40kg x 10
47.5kg x 8 (last 2 forced)

decline bench press:
2 x warm up
120kg x 6 (last 2 forced)

incline db flyes:
1 x warm up
30kg x 6

cable crossover:
40kg x 10
50kg x 6, 35kg x 6

dips:
1 x warm up
20kg x 8

push downs:
1 x warm up
80kg x 8
80kg x 6
70kg x 10


new pr in incline bench so im happy with that! that must have fatigued me for my decline bench as it was not as strong as usual. made it in late today so i could not focus as much on triceps as usual but i still had a great pump at the end of it.

back day tomorrow then and i hope my legs can handle some deads
 
back and bicep session was epic today!! hamstrings felt good to go so went heavy on deads, there was terrible floods and stormy weather on the way to the gym so that frustration certainly helped power my workout :D

deadlifts:
3 x warm ups
180kg x 6
200kg x 4
220kg x 1
240kg x 1
250kg x failed

bent over reverse grip rows
2 x warm ups
100kg x 8
100kg x 6

lat pulldowns:
70kg x 8
80kg x 8
90kg x 6

barbell shrugs:
1 x warm up
140kg x 12
140kg x 12

EZ-bar bicep curls:
27.5kg x 10
37.5kg x 8
47.5kg x 8 (last 2 forced)

incline dumbbell curl:
12.5kg x 6
10kg x 6


very happy with a PR in my deadlift, 240kg felt heavy but i didnt struggle too much. however on 250kg the pressure was massive, i felt slight regurgitation ;) and i stalled halfway, definately will get it in the next week or 2 if i attempt maxing out again which i doubt. will test myself in another 4 - 5 weeks and see how my 1RM has improved.
obviously due to this my bent over rows were not going to be as heavy, i focused more on form and contraction, had a great pump and the workout felt solid overall.
diet has been decent today, living on oats, eggs, and chicken last 2 days and i feel great in the gym. had my cheat meal today... double qtr pounder and fries from mcdonalds with extra sauce :P!!!
feel much better now that i have dropped the dbol, not sure thats the reason or just whether its the other compounds kicking in.
rest day tomorrow! ...and shoulders on monday
 
yesterdays shoulder session:
db shoulder press:
1 x warm up
30kg x 8
40kg x 6 (last 3 forced)

behind the neck smith machine press:
1 x warm up
75kg x 8
85kg x 4 (last 1 forced)

db side laterals:
1 x warm up
15kg x 10
15kg x 10

db reverse flyes:
10kg x 12
15kg x 12

close grip bench:
1 x warm up
100kg x 8
110kg x 8 (last 2 forced)

cable push downs:
1 x warm up
70kg x 10
80kg x 8
80kg x 6, 55kg x 6

shoulders felt weaker than usual for the compound movements, but got a great pump and looked bigger in the mirror. forgot to check my weight but will do that tomorrow.

leg session today:
squats:
2 x warm up
140kg x 8
160kg x 5
130kg x 10

leg press:
350kg x 10
450kg x 8
550kg x 8

quad ext.:
45kg x 10
60kg x 8
70kg x 8 (last 2 forced)

hamstring curls:
45kg x 12
55kg x 8
55kg x 8
20kg x 12 (single leg)
20kg x 10 (single leg)

leg press calf extensions:
175kg x 15
200kg x 15
250kg x 15
300kg x 12

legs today was a tough session. havent slept properly the last 2 days and especially last night i only got 3 hours sleep i was like a zombie all day.
squats felt difficult, and i could not get my body to focus, but thats obviously a sign of my body being fatigued as the other less taxing exercises didnt feel as bad. early night tonight with plenty of food today and tomorrow to make sure my chest session on thursday is epic.
 
feel much better the last 2 sessions, the time off work has definately solidified my diet.
chest workout went as follows:

db incline press:
2 x warm up
40kg x 10
50kg x 7 (last 2 forced)

decline bench press:
1 x warm up
100kg x 8
120kg x 10 (last 2 forced)

db incline flyes:
22.5kg x 10
30kg x 6

cable crossovers:
40kg x 8
40kg x 6, 25kg x 6

dips:
1 x warm up
20kg x 8
30kg x 7

cable push downs:
70kg x 10
80kg x 8
80kg x 8

skull crushers:
27.5kg x 10
37.5kg x 8
47.5kg x 8

first time hitting the 50's in my regular gym, hit them before in the other peasant gym down the road :P but these 50's are MORE than legit :D
120kg on decline felt light as fuk too. great session overall

for my back session today i decided to really focus on reps and form.

deadlifts:
2 x warm up
140kg x 8
180kg x 8
220kg x 4

bent over rows:
2 x warm up
100kg x 6
100kg x 8

lat pulldowns:
80kg x 8
90kg x 6
90kg x 6

seated cable rows:
70kg x 8
90kg x 8
100kg x 8

shrugs:
100kg x 15
140kg x 15

db bicep curls:
15kg x 10
22.5kg x 6
20kg x 6

cable hammer curls:
40kg x 10
50kg x 8
50kg x 8

preacher curl:
27.5kg x 10
37.5kg x 7

deadlifts felt phenomenal, i was training on my own today so i zipped up, hood, headphones and all. stayed in beast mode for the workout.
now 2 days of eating and recovery!
 
shoulders today! tried kali muscle's HYPHY MUD as a pre workout (instant coffee and cola) jittery as fuuark... anyways...

db shoulder press:
3 x warm up
35kg x 8
40 x 6(last 3 forced)

behind the neck smith press:
1 x warm up
75kg x 6
85kg x 6 (last 2 forced)
55kg x 12

side laterals:
12.5kg x 10
15kg x 8
17.5kg x 8 (last 2 forced)

db reverse flyes:
1 x warm up
12.5kg x 12

rear smith shrugs:
95kg x 15
135kg x 15
165kg x 15

close grip bench:
1 x warm up
100kg x 8
110kg x 8 (last 1 forced)

skull crushers:
1 x warm up
37.5kg x 10
47.5kg x 8

cable push downs:
1 x warm up
80kg x 8
80kg x 6, 40kg x 6

disappointed in my shoulder strength on db's and not much happening on the smith. so i think its time for a change, i will introduce seated military press instead of db's for a few weeks and use that as my only compound. but i will go all out and inert my main effort on that exercise.

legs tomorrow and ill have to redeem myself after last week's mishap, bring it!!
 
the most alpha day of the week.. LEGS

squats:
60kg x 10
100kg x 8
140kg x 6
160kg x 4
180kg x 2
130kg x 15

leg press:
350kg x 8
450kg x 8
600kg x 5

quad ext:
45kg x 10
60kg x 10
70kg x 10 (last 1 forced)

hamstring curls:
45kg x 12
55kg x 10
60kg x 8
20kg x 12 (single leg)
20kg x 12 (single leg, last 2 forced)

leg press calf ext:
150kg x 15
200kg x 15
250kg x 15


good session overall, PB in the leg press at least, but next week i hope to go heavier on the squats... was getting cramps all over my quads walking home!
 
weight at the moment is 97kg (213lbs)

chest session today:
db incline press:
25kg x 10
35kg x 8
40kg x 8
50kg x 6 (last 2 forced)

decline bench press:
60kg x 10
100kg x 8
130kg x 6 (last 2 forced)

flat db flyes:
22.5kg x 8
30kg x 6

cable crossover (from bottom):
30kg x 10
35kg x 8

dips:
0 x 12
20kg x 8
30kg x 6

cable push downs:
30kg x 12 (reverse grip)
45kg x 12
60kg x 10
60kg x 10 (normal grip)
80kg x 8
80kg x 6
 
internet has been down at my house for a while now so ill update this whenever i get the chance really.

back sesh last fri:
deadlifts: 60kg x 10, 100kg x 8, 140kg x 8, 180kg x 8, 220kg x 4
bent over rows: 60kg x 10, 80kg x 8, 100kg x 8, 120kg x 8
close grip lat pulldowns: 70kg x 8, 80kg x 8, 90kg x 6
wide grip seated rows: 75kg x 8, 85kg x 8
one arm db rows: 40kg x 10, 52.5kg x 8

switching the pull down from wide grip to close grip made a bigger difference and ill be keeping that up. ill also introduce the one arm db rows for a few weeks
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as with the back workout there are a few compounds im changing/switching around just for 4 - 5 weeks

shoulders last monday:
seated barbell military press: 40kg x 10, 60kg x 8, 70kg x 6, 70kg x 8 (adjusted seat to a better position)
behind the neck smith press: 55kg x 8, 75kg x 6, 55kg x 8
seated lateral raise: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 15kg x 10, 15kg x 10 (last 2 forced)
cable reverse flyes: 15kg x 12, 20kg x 8

close grip bench: 60kg x 10, 100kg x 8, 120kg x 6
cable push downs: 70kg x 10, 80kg x 8, 90kg x 6
3 x sets of rope push downs
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leg session yesterday was the same as last week except i omitted the leg press for the hack squat, done 3 sets with 2 plates each side

diet has been extremely clean the last 2 weeks, i have stuck mainly to oats, rice, chicken, a little bit of beef, whey and peanut butter
getting many compliments/comments in the gym, people asking what im on etc. feel very good about progress at the moment too. looking juicy but dry. leg muscles are starting to look more and more like tumours, and back muscles look chunky. not working so much at the moment, that has helped massively with dedication but is not helping financially as i AM looking to extend my cycle duration but i need to get hold of extra gear which is costly and at the moment i am scraping by, but i hope will get sorted in the coming weeks.
 
cyle has been going well, my appetite is massive i have to try and not over indulge in calories. but progress is going well too, changed my chest session to include flat bench press as the first exercise. hit 130 for 6 which is a PB. diet has been spot on. usually consume 3600 - 3800 kcals. macros are 450 carbs, 300 + protein and 70 - 90g fat... main foods are still just rice, oats, chicken, whey, peanut butter and sauces...

monday:

seated barbell press: 40kg x 12, 60kg x 8, 80kg x 6, 80kg x 6
behind the neck smith press: 55kg x 10, 75kg x 8, 75kg x 8
seated db lateral raise: 12.5kg x 12, 15kg x 10, 15kg x 10
bent over cable raise: 15kg x 12, 20kg x 10

close grip bench: 60kg x 10, 100kg x 8, 120kg x 6

cable push downs:
70kg x 12, 80kg x 8, 90kg x 6
40kg x 10, 40kg x 8 (rope)

barbell presses have been going well, hits the shoulders really hard which is what im out after.

yesterday:

squats: 60kg x 12, 100kg x 8, 140kg x 8, 160kg x 6, 140kg x 10
leg press: 350kg x 8, 500kg x 8, 600kg x 6
close stance hack squats: 2 plates x 10, 2 plates x 10
quad extension: drop set of 70kg x 9, 50kg x 6

hamstring curls: 45kg x 12, 55kg x 10, 60kg x 8, (20kg x 10, 20kg x 10 = single leg)

calf raises on leg press: 150kg x 15, 200kg x 15, 250kg x 15

really enjoying progress on this cycle as im fully dedicated with all controls; diet, training, rest etc... seeing more striations, veins and cuts every week. yet still increasing in strength and size. chest day tomorrow so i hope ill get 135 for 6 (+ 5kg on last week), incline db's still remain heavy (50kg x 6).
 
last week went well... got a little sick at the start had a headache etc but kept the training and diet up. diets been very strict last 2 - 3 weeks so i had a few cheat meals this week and i felt so much stronger straight away. barbell shoulder press at the moment is at 80kg for 8, squats are 160 for 6, will get 8 this week, or up it to 180 and max out. ill decide on the day. bench is 130kg for 8, deadlifts still at 220kg for 4 and weight is hovering around 96 - 97kg. goal is to reach 100kg + in 6 weeks. week 10 starts tomorrow (monday)
 
as far as sides go i do get the odd heart palpitation here and there, is this due to eq? i checked my BP and it was 153/72... ill check it again tomorrow as that reading was taken after some light exercise. no excessive water retention or gyno even though im not using an AI, balls are obviously shrunk, no real mood swings and my libido has sky rocketed!! loving the cycle at the moment
 
shoulder session was unreal yesterday, hit delts and traps hard. here is a progress pic after my back workout last saturday.
 
so... my last jab was last sunday :(! for the past 4 weeks i have been injecting 250mg Test E and 250mg E every three days, to finish the cycle off at 16 weeks. weight yesterday was at exactly 100kg, so my goal has been reached! strength is great. i will test my 1rm next week so i have an idea. and i am delighted with overall muscle gains. i have seen most progress on my legs and shoulders (particularly when i switched db press to seated military bb press). i did however injure my wrist last week so i had to take the rest of the week off. i will take clomid and nolva in 3 weeks time to recover. hopefully i will not lose much strength and muscle. but since im staying strong for a little while longer its business as usual. Leg day today.........
 
kunnt said:
Regards to an AI, i can get arimidex if any symptoms show, so that is no problem. i will probably get it asap as it is obviously logical to keep in on hand at all times.
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it will be too late by then. good luck bra shopping.
 
delayed entry but been very busy lately. quick update:
starting my 2nd week of pct tomorrow. the protocol ive been following is
clomid: 100/50/50/25/25
nolva: 20/20/20/20

i know it is recommended to run hcg during the cycle, or bridge between last jab and start of pct, the former being preferred, but i went without it on this cycle (been advised to blast it for a week during pct, but from what ive gathered it will shut down natural LH which is what i do not need during pct). i will probably get slated for this, but it is what i have went ahead with.

i have experienced NO gyno sides, a small bit of water retention the past week, testicular atrophy (went from eggs to grapes, feel slight enlargement lately, could be psychological though), slight dip in libido but i can still fully function (im just not the same testosterone fueled, iron tipped, slobbering dog anymore) and weight is at 98/99kg or so. will weigh myself tomorrow. ive noticed slight fat increase on my abdomen. strength is more or less the same except everything is MUCH harder and taxing on the body.

after i finish pct and recover i plan on waiting until late july/august to start my 3rd cycle. not 100% on what compounds to run, but it will more than likely be a 8 -10 week-er with short esters... prog pic up soon
 
so this would be my last week of pct but i think ill stretch another week out of the clomid.
balls are creeping back to size, libido has been hit and miss, slight ED problems every now and again but i think thats just psychological. ill ride it out though without any worry. bodyweight is still at 98/99 kg. strength has dipped slightly in chest and shoulders but is increasing again. on the contrary my squats and deadlifts have seen a huge boost in strength. last week i got a personal best of 2 reps at 190kg (418 lbs) back squat and today a personal best of 1 RM at 160kg front squat. deadlifts i can still hit the same weight if not more than when i was at my peak in cycle. delighted with recovery at the moment. i already cant wait for my next cycle. ill research and research even more to ensure i do it right.

anyone got tips on an epic 3rd cycle?? in terms of putting on serious mass. maybe a 12 week test/deca/dbol cycle?
 
quick update!

recovery went well i stayed around 98kg. i have started my 3rd cycle on the 14th of this month. so im into week 3.
will post link to new log
 
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