12 reps -- too many for Deads?

[The Shadow]

I've built huge amounts of size and strength using the deadlift and rarely go over 5 reps.

Ok...but....who's to say that higher reps would not have pushed you to more mass????

 

[Ingram]

I'm with Needsize on this one, I keep my reps under 6.

 

[The Shadow]

I'm with Needsize on this one, I keep my reps under 6.

I can't believe you guys haven't tried the 20 rep system b-4???

 

[needsize]

I can't believe you guys haven't tried the 20 rep system b-4???

I don't like doing 20 reps for anything, least of all deads. I find my body responds best to heavy weight, and I deadlift over 500lbs for sets of 5, I honestly don't think I could achieve the same growth and strength with reps that high.

 

[b fold the truth]

Remember that Night Fly is competing in a contest where doing max reps with 250 for 90 seconds...hence why she is doing so many reps.

All I can say is this...the large people that I know have all done low rep deadlifts. I have built a very large back from doing low rep deadlifts...not high reps. If I did sets of 20 for more than a week...I would end up burnt out on them and probably injured.

I do have a friend who is a pro strongman who does sets of 50 with 500 though...as many sets as it takes. He was also preparing for a contest where they were doing the car deadlift for max reps.

For strongman events...sometimes doing high reps pays off because it helps your mind adjust to that feeling of torture...and still pushing your body. Try putting 135 on the squat bar and doing 100 consecutive butt to the floor reps. You would be surprised what gives out first...your body or your mind. 9 times out of 10...it will be your mind that quits.

If I were doing set of 20 I would probably be using 405 or something near that. I just don't feel that doing high reps with 405 would be productive for more than a week or two.

Give it a shot...doing deads period is better than not doing them at all.

B True

 

[The Shadow]

Remember that Night Fly is competing in a contest where doing max reps with 250 for 90 seconds...hence why she is doing so many reps.

All I can say is this...the large people that I know have all done low rep deadlifts. I have built a very large back from doing low rep deadlifts...not high reps. If I did sets of 20 for more than a week...I would end up burnt out on them and probably injured.

I do have a friend who is a pro strongman who does sets of 50 with 500 though...as many sets as it takes. He was also preparing for a contest where they were doing the car deadlift for max reps.

For strongman events...sometimes doing high reps pays off because it helps your mind adjust to that feeling of torture...and still pushing your body. Try putting 135 on the squat bar and doing 100 consecutive butt to the floor reps. You would be surprised what gives out first...your body or your mind. 9 times out of 10...it will be your mind that quits.

If I were doing set of 20 I would probably be using 405 or something near that. I just don't feel that doing high reps with 405 would be productive for more than a week or two.

Give it a shot...doing deads period is better than not doing them at all.

B True

Fold - try this.Or anyone else.

Start with an easy set of 20. Add weight every week and keep 20 the rep goal, as you "plateau" continue to add weight but let the reps drop by one or two per w/o until you are back down to 5-6. I would be very surprised if the 5rm hasn't increases by at least 15-20%

 

[b fold the truth]

Any thoughts as why Chuck V, Mat Dimel, Gary Frank, Louie Simmons, Dave Tate, Franco Columbo, Dorian Yates, Hannibal, etc...do not do these? Why do they not do high reps on the deadlift?

I know from experience that doing a set(s) of 10 reps does not build the same strength or size on deadlifts as a set(s) of 5 and under. I have done high reps before and always grew more with fewer injuries from doing lower reps.

If I begin doing deadlifts with a 20 rep set and increase the weight every week till the reps fall...sure I would get stronger...I would be doing deadlifts. Would my 1rm increase? I highly doubt it. As a matter of fact...as the weight increased and my reps decrease...my volume would begin to change greatly causing me to peak at an odd time. I never reccomend doing deads for more than 3 weeks at a time. After that...you would be better off doing goodmornings of some sort.

Is there any certain reason that you suggest doing 20 reps on the deadlift? I just don't see the purpose behind it. Even the classic theory of "toning" so to speak begins at about 12-15 reps. Please elaborate.

B True

 

[Lord_Suston]

I do a lot of reps on deads, some times up to fifteen. But I have my partner watch my form, and it has been really effective. But I usually do a set with 3-5 reps, Most of my higher sets are with light weights trying to warmup and get ready for a low rep power set. seriously try for yourself for three weeks each style and see what works best.

 

[b fold the truth]

Lord_Suston: Perfect advice man...perfect.

B True

 

[Lord_Suston]

Thanks B Fold

I just hope everyone realizes that bodies do not react the exact same.

You comment to Alex about gaining a hundred pounds was fuckin hilarious.....

Hey wait I'm almost a hundred pounds lighter, oh yeah I forgot I'm 5'7" and can lift with the big boys any day. Do they have weigh classes for Strongman?