its really hard to know who to trust in the supplament market like 4 months ago i was reading about AST paul cribb he seemd really knowledgable until i saw his product list vanadyl sulfate,androstendione i was thinking where the smilax? and with everson his mag he always states how his mag is not for sale and exposes the bs of the industry but then i see him marketing liquid libido , and talking about the great hmb, and how dorian yate's protein is great yet i hear it had horrbile lab assays its so hard