I am forcibly reminded on a regular basis that we are no humans reaching for spirituality, we are spiritual beings having a human experience. But I do have to say that while the people I have met who are spiritually evolved have all been very ethically balanced individuals, they are often also very much physically "indulgent" (usually tending to be quite sensual, as opposed to being overindulgent in terms of food and drink). And Ariel, I can't emphasize enough, I'm every much a student as you. I most certainly don't know more than you, I merely have a different perspective.