Injectable B-12 (Cyanacobalamin)Real Effects or Placebo effect?

[Stocks_and_Steroids]

I am thinking of possibly doing B-12. Is B-12 effective? Is the effects real or could they be in the mind? Is Oral just as good as injectable.
I dont have the immediate effects some claim they feel on other compounds right after use reagrding Test and HGH and Anavar, etc. Maybe I am comparing to my old experiences of partying back in the day with designer compounds where the effects were immediate and like a slap in the face.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Alot of people swear by injectible B-12 bro.... i posted up a similar thread not so long ago.
I cant find a link but if you search you will see the replies i got back and that info might be what you are looking for.

And for the record i ordered 48 amps of the stuff myself 1000mcg a pop ...

 

[d_rson]

People with deminished intrinsic factor can benefit from injectible B12 - some people get a benefit, others do not. The best way to tell is to take 5000mcg of B12 for 3 days before a blood test and have your B12 measured.

 

[RADAR]

I use injectable B12 it gives me a boost and a feeling of well being

 

[ledhead]

I am thinking of possibly doing B-12. Is B-12 effective? Is the effects real or could they be in the mind? Is Oral just as good as injectable.
I dont have the immediate effects some claim they feel on other compounds right after use reagrding Test and HGH and Anavar, etc. Maybe I am comparing to my old experiences of partying back in the day with designer compounds where the effects were immediate and like a slap in the face.

I know a site with real legit time released b-12, and yeah it works very well. The b-12 your gonna find you will have to inject everyday. This kind you inject everyday for the first week then twice a week afterwards.PM me if you want the name of the site.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Injectable B12 will stay in the bloodstream about 24 hours.


A daily dose DX7 has 730 times more B12 than required. Evn if you only absorb half of it you're still getting fifty times more than you can possibly use and you'll only pee the rest out.

Use DX7 and you really won't need injectable B12. But some people just like injecting.

 

[lartinos]

I like it

 

[C0LUMB0]

I was curious about how effective oral B-12 was compared to injectable.

This is what i dug up....

oral supplementation with vitamin B12 is safe, efficient and inexpensive. Most multi-vitamin pills contain 100-200 microgram of the cyanocobalamin form of B-12. This must be converted to methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin before it can be used by the body. The actual absorption of B12 is also a problem with supplements. Swallowing 500 micrograms of cyanocobalamin can result in absorption of as little as 1.8 microgram so most multivitamins do not provide an adequate daily intake. The best approach is to dissolve a sublingual tablet of methylcobalamin (1000 micrograms) under the tongue every day. That will be sufficient to maintain adequate body stores. However, if a deficiency is actually present then 2000 microgram/day for one month is recommended followed by 1000 microgram/day. Some physicians still maintain that monthly injections of vitamin B12 is required to maintain adequate levels in the elderly and in patients with a diagnosed deficiency. There is however, no scientific evidence supporting the notion that injections are more effective than sublingual supplementation.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I was curious about how effective oral B-12 was compared to injectable.

This is what i dug up....

oral supplementation with vitamin B12 is safe, efficient and inexpensive. Most multi-vitamin pills contain 100-200 microgram of the cyanocobalamin form of B-12. This must be converted to methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin before it can be used by the body. The actual absorption of B12 is also a problem with supplements. Swallowing 500 micrograms of cyanocobalamin can result in absorption of as little as 1.8 microgram so most multivitamins do not provide an adequate daily intake. The best approach is to dissolve a sublingual tablet of methylcobalamin (1000 micrograms) under the tongue every day. That will be sufficient to maintain adequate body stores. However, if a deficiency is actually present then 2000 microgram/day for one month is recommended followed by 1000 microgram/day. Some physicians still maintain that monthly injections of vitamin B12 is required to maintain adequate levels in the elderly and in patients with a diagnosed deficiency. There is however, no scientific evidence supporting the notion that injections are more effective than sublingual supplementation.

Vitamins were meant to be eaten. True, in elderly people where the digestive system has broken down and they're susceptable to anemia, injections are sometimes required. But again, the dosage in DX7 is so high, you'll get the full effects.

 

[lartinos]

oral sucks

 

[ledhead]

Vitamins were meant to be eaten. True, in elderly people where the digestive system has broken down and they're susceptable to anemia, injections are sometimes required. But again, the dosage in DX7 is so high, you'll get the full effects.

Dude, I 'm not trying to be disrespectful to you at all, but it seems like your trying to peddle your sups more then your trying to help people. B-12 injections are better then oral I tryed them both...Of course
this is my opinion, but I'm gonna try this dx7 and see for myself if it's all that....

 

[d_rson]

Dude, I 'm not trying to be disrespectful to you at all, but it seems like your trying to peddle your sups more then your trying to help people. B-12 injections are better then oral I tryed them both...Of course
this is my opinion, but I'm gonna try this dx7 and see for myself if it's all that....

As I said before, this is NOT true in a general statement. There is an important factor called intrinsic factor that deminishes over time, with age, with diet, with disease, and with medications. This factor is REQUIRED for your body to metabolize B12. Without this factor, you cannot process B12. I know this from experience, as the medication I was on before I became insulin dependent was metformin, and metformin has been found (and did in my case) to reduce intrinsic factor. I could take 10,000mcg of B12, and register NOTHING in my blood. I could not process B12. I started B12 shots daily for two weeks, then twice a week for a couple weeks while I discontinued the metformin. Within a couple months, I was able to process B12 again, and now can take it orally.

However, there are many factors that contribute to deminished intrinsic factor, and they are finding it more common now. But unless you know you have a problem, then oral is fine - but if you suspect, like I said, take a bunch orally for a few days, then have a blood test to see if you have high levels.

But I can say this - when I was taking injections (100mcg daily for two weeks, 100mcg twice a week, etc), I was HUNGRY all the time, and really felt a euphoria. I do NOT feel that way on oral administration, maybe just a little. But again, everyone is different.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Dude, I 'm not trying to be disrespectful to you at all, but it seems like your trying to peddle your sups more then your trying to help people. B-12 injections are better then oral I tryed them both...Of course
this is my opinion, but I'm gonna try this dx7 and see for myself if it's all that....

It doesn't hurt my supp sales if you use injectable B12. If you feel it's "better" than great. It won;t hurt and it isn't expensive. I just don;t believe there's a need for it.

 

[C0LUMB0]

As I said before, this is NOT true in a general statement. There is an important factor called intrinsic factor that deminishes over time, with age, with diet, with disease, and with medications. This factor is REQUIRED for your body to metabolize B12. Without this factor, you cannot process B12. I know this from experience, as the medication I was on before I became insulin dependent was metformin, and metformin has been found (and did in my case) to reduce intrinsic factor. I could take 10,000mcg of B12, and register NOTHING in my blood. I could not process B12. I started B12 shots daily for two weeks, then twice a week for a couple weeks while I discontinued the metformin. Within a couple months, I was able to process B12 again, and now can take it orally.

However, there are many factors that contribute to deminished intrinsic factor, and they are finding it more common now. But unless you know you have a problem, then oral is fine - but if you suspect, like I said, take a bunch orally for a few days, then have a blood test to see if you have high levels.

But I can say this - when I was taking injections (100mcg daily for two weeks, 100mcg twice a week, etc), I was HUNGRY all the time, and really felt a euphoria. I do NOT feel that way on oral administration, maybe just a little. But again, everyone is different.

Good post bro.

My last 2 blood tests showed i was low in b-12 and my doc just said my diet was lacking and that i was defecient...no mention of intrinsic factor or anything like that.

I did a course of approx 12 shots @1000mcg per week and if im honest i can say i didnt notice any effect/benefit i.e. increased appetite or sense of well being you mentioned.

I am going to try ED shots for a week and then drop of to twice weekly then once weekly if my bloods come back this time round showing a lack of b-12.

 

[d_rson]

Good post bro.

My last 2 blood tests showed i was low in b-12 and my doc just said my diet was lacking and that i was defecient...no mention of intrinsic factor or anything like that.

I did a course of approx 12 shots @1000mcg per week and if im honest i can say i didnt notice any effect/benefit i.e. increased appetite or sense of well being you mentioned.

I am going to try ED shots for a week and then drop of to twice weekly then once weekly if my bloods come back this time round showing a lack of b-12.

Its possible the euphoria and energy I felt was the difference from having no b12 to now having b12 in my system.