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What do you think of Dermacrine?

I'm using DermaTherm and liking it a lot right now. I'm looking at trying their Dermacrine next.
 
bin doing a lot of reading on dhea on of the ingredents in the reg derma.its effects are very wide ranged.
more people should research and learn about every thing they can about the body,prohormones,adrenal glands,adipose tissue,androstenediones,testosterone and estrogen,sulfotransferase ,cholesterol,pregnenolone,and on and on and on there is so much to learn about the body and how it works...looking into dermacrin I just love what it dose.
 
have any of you gained muscle on this or is more strength and cutting fat? im looking to gain some muscle and strength before august? will it help?
 
swanky11 said:
have any of you gained muscle on this or is more strength and cutting fat? im looking to gain some muscle and strength before august? will it help?
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it did all of the above for me. increased levels of testosterone should help you burn fat and build muscle and strength, so it looks like it works. i didn't even use it as instructed when i used it, i was only applying it like every other day. and i was drinking more than i should have been, but i still saw results.
 
swanky11 said:
have any of you gained muscle on this or is more strength and cutting fat? im looking to gain some muscle and strength before august? will it help?
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If you plan on gaining size while on Dermacrine you need to make sure your workouts and diet are fit for this. It’s a versatile supplement, but if you’re not eating enough and lifting heavy its not going to build big muscle alone.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
If you plan on gaining size while on Dermacrine you need to make sure your workouts and diet are fit for this. It’s a versatile supplement, but if you’re not eating enough and lifting heavy its not going to build big muscle alone.

-Pp
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right now im doing my second 5x5 so my lifting is good. my food intake is good but not great. how would you compare this to aifm? i didnt like that stuff.
 
swanky11 said:
right now im doing my second 5x5 so my lifting is good. my food intake is good but not great. how would you compare this to aifm? i didnt like that stuff.
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Its a whole different product. Your going to be in a much more anabolic/androgenic state while on Dermacrine because of the much higher dose of DHEA/preg.

AIFM may be a stronger aromatase inhibitor, but I really see no use for it unless your on high doses of AAS.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Its a whole different product. Your going to be in a much more anabolic/androgenic state while on Dermacrine because of the much higher dose of DHEA/preg.

AIFM may be a stronger aromatase inhibitor, but I really see no use for it unless your on high doses of anabolic androgenic steroids.

-Pp
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how long can you stay on it? ane when you stop it are you gonna kinda crash or anything? where can i get it?
 
swanky11 said:
how long can you stay on it? ane when you stop it are you gonna kinda crash or anything? where can i get it?
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We say a month is the longest you can stay on before having to worry about a “crash”. Our recommendation is a bit conservative though, as guys will use the product for 8 weeks strait and jump off without any problems. We designed Dermacrine Sustain as a the “post cycle” formula to be used after AAS or Dermacrine – which will naturally keep test levels up. (even after use)

We are the exclusive provider of the Dermacrine products, which we sell on our site -

www.primordialperformance.com

Remember, MVC10 will save you $10 on any order.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
We say a month is the longest you can stay on before having to worry about a “crash”. Our recommendation is a bit conservative though, as guys will use the product for 8 weeks strait and jump off without any problems. We designed Dermacrine Sustain as a the “post cycle” formula to be used after anabolic androgenic steroids or Dermacrine – which will naturally keep test levels up. (even after use)

We are the exclusive provider of the Dermacrine products, which we sell on our site -

www.primordialperformance.com

Remember, MVC10 will save you $10 on any order.

-Pp
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alright thanks. so if i order it today and start taking it once it gets here for 4 weeks, i should be fine and avoid a crash and be fine for august? my only concern is when i go off dermacrine b/c i start football camp beginning of aug. and do not want to go into camp not feeling good or crashing.
 
swanky11 said:
alright thanks. so if i order it today and start taking it once it gets here for 4 weeks, i should be fine and avoid a crash and be fine for august? my only concern is when i go off dermacrine b/c i start football camp beginning of aug. and do not want to go into camp not feeling good or crashing.
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Yes, you’d be ok, but why no save it for football camp? Isnt it pretty demanding?

-Pp
 
swanky11 said:
have any of you gained muscle on this or is more strength and cutting fat? im looking to gain some muscle and strength before august? will it help?
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deff got a strength gain from it...it also gave me a increase in apatite witch I know of lots of people it did the same for...I can pull up all the threads people made when the product first came out and user feedback was high. :)
 
needtogetaas said:
deff got a strength gain from it...it also gave me a increase in apatite witch I know of lots of people it did the same for...I can pull up all the threads people made when the product first came out and user feedback was high. :)
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how long did you stay on and howd you fell when you went off it?
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, you’d be ok, but why no save it for football camp? Isnt it pretty demanding?

-Pp
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i need to gain some muscle, strength and some speed before camp. but if it works good ill start it up again after i guess 4 weeks. ill go 4 on 4 off right?
 
swanky11 said:
i need to gain some muscle, strength and some speed before camp. but if it works good ill start it up again after i guess 4 weeks. ill go 4 on 4 off right?
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you can cycle in sustain or dermatherm in between using dermacrine, but dermacrine should be used for no longer than 4 weeks at a time.

i've read the whole site a few times, hehe
 
Jimbo15 said:
you can cycle in sustain or dermatherm in between using dermacrine, but dermacrine should be used for no longer than 4 weeks at a time.

i've read the whole site a few times, hehe
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yea im trying to read it all now. maybe ill go 4 on dermacrine then 4 on sustain during the season.
 
swanky11 said:
how do you check ordering information? To see if its shipped, and to track it.
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they send you and email with tracking info, and they usually ship pretty fast, i got mine in just a couple days
 
Ive been using Derma for a few days now and love it, It really is a motivation boost! I not that into the scent of it but it goes away pretty fast. A question, is it ok to cycle derma for 5 weeks then 4 weeks sustain then go on the Derma once again right away after that?
 
Read about the product on needtobuildmuscle.com -

"Since certain anabolic & androgenic hormones can convert to estrogen, Dermacrine was fortified with an anti-estrogen complex which consists of resveratrol, 7,8 benzoflavone and chrysin. These are natural plant based compounds that block estrogenic effects such as gyno and fat storage"
 
Gave me migraine headaches
 
I just orderd some dermacrine and sustain... Heard nothing but good things.... Time to test it out for 30 bucks a bottle! sound like a deal to me.
 
Primordial Performance said:
I was taking the topical cream..very good stuff just got some headaches mixing them with Dermatherm and Dermacrine so i took Dermacrine away.
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Well Im sorry to hear bro... thats the first report weve gotten about a headache.

-Eric
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Honestly Eric it's great stuff it's prob just me and the way I reacted to dermatherm and dermacrine together. I sit the 2 up and I was fine. Great product!
 
Im about to order some derma to stack with my dieselbolan just havent decided topical or liqui vade . I used sustain before topical and loved it, i will def be adding it to my pct. Well i better decide soon before the sell end.
 
bullydogman said:
Im about to order some derma to stack with my dieselbolan just havent decided topical or liqui vade . I used sustain before topical and loved it, i will def be adding it to my pct. Well i better decide soon before the sell end.
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If the topical SA worked well for you then you will probably have great results with the topical Dermacrine too.

-Eric
 
I use steroids.... period.

Will Dermacrine help me?
DHEA is great for test levels in a natural person.. but would it do any good for me?
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, infact several guys have compared 5 pumps of Dermacrine to 150mg/week Test E. (or 8-10mL of Liqua-Vade)

-Eric
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PP,

I'm starting a mild cycle in a week or two and Dermacrine is a major part of it. This is the basics of it:

eq Plex- 800 mg ed (it's a Boldenone prohormone called Boldione)
Dermacrine- 6 pumps ed

PCT: Sustain Alpha, 6 pumps ed for 4 weeks

Do I need anything else? I took 1-T in the past and considered it for this time around but I'm concerned about hairloss, considering 1-T is pretty androgenic. Is 6 pumps of Dermacrine too many? Or would 6 pumps be good and increase the amount comparable to injecting test from 150 mg to maybe 200 mg/week?
 
Rikishi said:
PP,

I'm starting a mild cycle in a week or two and Dermacrine is a major part of it. This is the basics of it:

eq Plex- 800 mg ed (it's a Boldenone prohormone called Boldione)
Dermacrine- 6 pumps ed

PCT: Sustain Alpha, 6 pumps ed for 4 weeks

Do I need anything else? I took 1-T in the past and considered it for this time around but I'm concerned about hairloss, considering 1-T is pretty androgenic. Is 6 pumps of Dermacrine too many? Or would 6 pumps be good and increase the amount comparable to injecting test from 150 mg to maybe 200 mg/week?
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I really wouldnt push the dose on the Dermacrine. Going past 5 pumps may start to cause anxiety and sleeplessness from too much DHEA.

Also, if your planning on only running Sustain for PCT I wouldnt go any longer than 4 weeks to make recovery as easy as possible.

-Eric
 
Primordial Performance said:
Some guys can get away with it since 4 week cycles are pretty easy to recover from anyway. (especially from fast clearing orals)

I wouldnt recommend Sustain only for any cycle longer than 4 weeks.

-Eric
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What else in addition to Sustain would you recommend? I did a 7 week PPlex/Beastdrol cycle and only used Sustain for PCT and I was fine. Do I really need a SERM with the anti estrogens in Derma?
 
Rikishi said:
What else in addition to Sustain would you recommend? I did a 7 week PPlex/Beastdrol cycle and only used Sustain for PCT and I was fine. Do I really need a SERM with the anti estrogens in Derma?
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Id recommend the full TRS. The EndoAmp Max helps control cortisol and gets your T levels back up faster. The Toco-8 helps the Sustain increase testosterone levels further.

The next step would be taking a low dose SERM with the TRS. (like 10mg/day nolva or 40mg/day toremifene)

-Eric
 
I've been using dermacrine alone and for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed a thing. No feeling of "overall well being" or extra motivation in the gym like others have reported. The only effect I can say I noticed was increased appetite. I'm 23 years old and 205 lbs with roughly 15% bodyfat. Started at 4 pumps/day then went to 5 hoping it would help. Am I doing something wrong!?
 
mattmatt300 said:
I've been using dermacrine alone and for about 3 weeks and haven't noticed a thing. No feeling of "overall well being" or extra motivation in the gym like others have reported. The only effect I can say I noticed was increased appetite. I'm 23 years old and 205 lbs with roughly 15% bodyfat. Started at 4 pumps/day then went to 5 hoping it would help. Am I doing something wrong!?
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Matt,

Whats your PH experience?

And your training regimen?

Dermacrine is a very safe PH that produces mild but quality gains. Most users report dropping a few % in BF over the course of 4 weeks while maintaining their muscle mass or even gaining a few lbs. So I suggest guys get their weight and BF% checked before a cycle to see how much progress they are really making.

-Eric
 
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