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Steroids or Weed? Which is worse?
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CajunSaint
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weed bc it makes you stupid
tripleOG
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Why do you say gear is worse? My main point is based on which one affects your regular abilities more. Would you rather have someone on some juice taking care of your kid or someone that's high?
anabolic12
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Confused, you have a kid and your wife wants to get high? Please try not to take this the wrong way, but your wife should have waited to have a kid. Just please at least tell me she not watching your kid while she high
Gawd
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Yea, I mean.. some people can function alright on weed, but it's definitly not ideal.
Steroids aren't really mind altering and shouldn't really effect your ability to take care of a child. Marijuana seems like it would.
I think that should be your argument.
If it doesn't work.. It's easier to hide your steroid use..
Gawd
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Health wise, sure, it's not that bad. Potentially causes cancer down the road, but what doesn't.
I think the issue here would be if you could properly take care of a child while high.
tripleOG
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Whoa dude, where are you getting these statistics from? Nobody is talking about weed killing people, and all this "killed many" thing is completely unfounded especially for people that don't juice year around and aren't professional bodybuilders that are weighing around 300 lbs.
tripleOG
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I don't really think there is anything wrong with marijuana, except when someone driving the car with my son in it is high. Would you want a doctor doing surgery on you to take a bong hit right before? Brainwashed by society, gimme a break man and you should really take your own advice and do some research. I have.
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anabolic12
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I'll sum it up..... both are bad for you either way you look at it - From a stand point of, she should smoke if you use steroids, she is slowing down her body functions including brian fuctions. If a kid is in the picture I would say PUT THE JOINT DOWN. However, she does have you by the balls - if you are using a drug, why cant she? Just personal preferance, if my wife was smoking weed and then taking care of my child, she would have an opportunity to stop or she would be coming really close to a swift butt kick out the door, now knowing my wife she would come after all my stuff, not just half...lol
How about this... She can smoke the weed only when you kid has gone to sleep for the night
How about this... She can smoke the weed only when you kid has gone to sleep for the night
dhawkins
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You asked what was worse. Weed CANNOT and WILL NOT kill you. Steroids CAN kill you. But with your circumstances weed may be worse. But I believe it is resonable of her for ask you to quit if she is going to. There is an easy solution to this. Stop the gear and she will stop smoking. A relationship is compromise.
Gawd
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In my opinion that is unreasonable and irresponsible of her to ask.
Her smoking weed is potentially harmful to the baby.. steroids aren't. For her to say she can smoke if you do steroids is just being rediculous.
If she is geniunely concerned for your health and wants you to stop that is another thing.
Steroid Related Deaths - Steroid Health Risks
he asked which one is worse, steroids or weed. obvioously the one thats worse is the one that killed more people genius.
you cant expect her to not to use drugs if youre gonna use drugs anywaays. thats being a hypocrite. either you both stop or you use steroids and she can smoke outside just not near the baby. simple as that.
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Big_BK
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You guys need to read between the lines a litter better.... My 2cents. She has a point why should she stop if you don't have to. Just come up with a better compromise.
Gawd
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Lol.
He mentioned they have a baby and which is worse. Steroids or weed.
I assume he was asking which would be most harmful when it comes to dealing with the baby. In which case the worse one would be the one that inhibits your ability to properly look after an infant.
Obviously youve already made up your mind to make your wife stop smoking and for us to encourage you that you are right. you want us to tell you that steroids wont effect the baby but your wifes weed habits will. Then why are you even asking for our advice in the first place?
i understand that. i have not smoked weed in a long time, but i can say that weed calms people down and allow them to do everyday things. is she the kind of person who smokes, lays on the couch, passes out, then eats everything in sight when she wakes up or is she the type who smokes and does laundry, dishes, goes to work, etc.
tripleOG
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How about this... She can smoke the weed only when you kid has gone to sleep for the night[/quote]
Exactly. This all started because I think she compares the two drugs, and I do admit they're both drugs. However imo weed you smoke to get high, juice you do to get swole. 2 totally different things, 2 totally different mindsets.
Exactly. This all started because I think she compares the two drugs, and I do admit they're both drugs. However imo weed you smoke to get high, juice you do to get swole. 2 totally different things, 2 totally different mindsets.
Trust me bro, arguing with a woman, she always wins. shes gonna keep bringing up the faxct that youre using drugs so why cant she, and its gonna be a never ending battle until you guys come to a compromise. Thats why i never tell my girlfriends about my steroid use, dont need the bullshit or lectures.
not trying to be a dick but ive seen this scenario plenty of times from my friends and from people on this board.
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tripleOG
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Your quote below your statements that reads "It's not the tren, im naturally this much of an asshole", I just want you to know that I agree with you.
tripleOG
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I tried to say just smoke at night, not when you have to drive around with the baby. And I can do 12 weeks a year on the juice. Hopefully that can be our compramise.
EXTREMEBOWHNTR
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Dude if your wife is at home and shes smoking alone and smokes everyday shes got a problem. I didnt read through every post so I dont know if you said it. If you've got a kid and she's still smoking, its time to grow up.
I tend to look and treat mj like alcohol. If you are having a drink in the evening, maybe not an issue. If you are drinking all day, you have a problem. Yes, mj does make you slow if you smoke too much and all the time. It is a side effect that some experience.
From the Movie Jackie Brown
Ordell Robbie: "See I get high later on when I come back, see I get high at NIGHT, when I get through with all my business."
From the Movie Jackie Brown
Ordell Robbie: "See I get high later on when I come back, see I get high at NIGHT, when I get through with all my business."
dark-knight
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your a towel
steroids are more dangerous and a more serous legal offence.
dark-knight
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but really, smoking anything is bad!!! bad for the smoker and bad for the people around the smoker. although if she isn't doing it in front of the child and "IF" it is not harming the child then.........
me personally, i luv the green. it helps me sleep when i cannot, it helps me relax at the end of a long day, when i'm on cycle it is a substitute for alcohol. whether it be infused into almond oil for cooking or in my special spacey protien bar it is much healthier than smoking it.
me personally, i luv the green. it helps me sleep when i cannot, it helps me relax at the end of a long day, when i'm on cycle it is a substitute for alcohol. whether it be infused into almond oil for cooking or in my special spacey protien bar it is much healthier than smoking it.
zack!!!
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you forgot it makes you better at playstation
well i think if your wife wants to smoke a bit of weed every now an again good for her whatever makes her happy but there is a big differents between once or twice a month or less compered with ed or eod . i dont think you would be so unsure if we were talking about alcohol . but the most important thing is that she does not do it around your kid
dark-knight
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you forgot it makes you better at playstation
well i think if your wife wants to smoke a bit of weed every now an again good for her whatever makes her happy but there is a big differents between once or twice a month or less compered with ed or eod . i dont think you would be so unsure if we were talking about alcohol . but the most important thing is that she does not do it around your kid
gets me in the zone
From South Park? Nice reference if that is what you intended. lol
I agree, it is a good substitute for alcohol when on a cycle.
needtogetaas
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Ya my wife dropped the weed the day she found out she was with child. Do tell me she did not smoke well she was with child?
Your quote below your statements that reads "It's not the tren, im naturally this much of an asshole", I just want you to know that I agree with you.
Im glad to hear that. That is the truth.
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yeah, lung cancer induced by smoking has never killed anyone....
ch'mon bro, be real
Steroids has NOT ONCE ever been traced as the cause of any death of any kind. Fact.
Smoking marijuana has been proven to be able to cause lung cancer directly.
Just because it isn't traced to deaths doesn't mean that steroids don't cause such things when abused, because they can.
In fact, the ratio of heart disease in steroid users vs the general other public is actually much much lower, probably because of healthy dieting and excercise, but still that shows that steroid use by otherwise healthy individuals still poses a minimum risk for heart vs crappy eaters. And some of those cases in seroid users who got heart disease probably wasn't because of steroids anyways, but it sure didn't help.
To the OP,
1) Your wife (nor you) should be smokin weed if you have a kid. Grow up and be responsible by setting a proper example for your children. This goes for steroids too (exception = HRT). Hide it from your children. Don't let them see it or know you have used it until they are old enough (like 17+). I say that old, because before that they are too impressionable and will go out and do dumb stuff through rationalizing their behavior because you did "stupid" stuff yourself.
2) Why the hell does your wife want to make you not use gear if she isn't smoking pot? That's stupid. "If I can't do this, then you shouldn't be able to do that" is one of the stupidest things women do and it pisses me off.
If she wants to stop smoking (which she should stop), then stop smoking. She shouldn't force you to quit gear because she isn't gonna smoke anymore. Fuck it, you are your own man and do what ever he hell you want.
Sometimes a man has to set his foot down on a woman and not budge. Most of the time you have to let her be right, but once in a while a man has to stand up for himself and tell that girl that you don't give a shit what she says, you're doing it and she can whine about it all she wants but you are gonna do what you are gonna do.
Steroid use isn't "bad" other than it is illegal here, with minimal potential health problems. Shit, people go to the emergency for taking aspirin lke 50X more than steroid use, and they only go for abcess treatment from unsterile injection, not side effect issues.
Smoking marijuana is bad for a large amount of reasons more than steroid use.
DannoMight
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If it's a nightly after the kids are in bed thing than thats alright. My wife and I are/were regular tokers but never let it get in the way of responsibility and would wait untill the kids are well asleep and handle the business outside the house in teh garage. Its more of a nightcap.
IMHO you should smoke up wither her esp while on a cycle so you can use the appetite stimulant advantage. Just try not to eat a bunch or cereal and ice cream. I have cut my torquing to late night and my wife quit agin about 5mos ago when she found out she was all knocked up again.
IMHO you should smoke up wither her esp while on a cycle so you can use the appetite stimulant advantage. Just try not to eat a bunch or cereal and ice cream. I have cut my torquing to late night and my wife quit agin about 5mos ago when she found out she was all knocked up again.
dark-knight
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she's hoggin the playstaion and eating all your protien isn't she. that would make me mad too!
niightz
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I totally agree with this post, and besides if she needs you to quit aas before she quits smoking weed then shes not REALLY gonna quit anyways. Lets be real. And nomak copy&paste medical reports not some unoffical retoric from another site. There are sooo many varibles that come into play when it comes to heart disease etc. for YOU to be able to make that claim that steroids did it directly.
this clearely proves that you are not correct about marijuiana kiling people.
Annual Causes of Death in the United States | Drug War Facts
heres another link that clearly states marijuana smokers are less likely to get lung cancer
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#tobacco
better yet, il save you the trouble and paste the part so you dont have to find it:
Myth: Marijuana is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.
Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.
Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box.” New York. (1995): 36.
Turner, Carlton E. The Marijuana Controversy. Rockville: American Council for Drug Education, 1981.
Nahas, Gabriel G. and Nicholas A. Pace. Letter. “Marijuana as Chemotherapy Aid Poses Hazards.” New York Times 4 December 1993: A20.
Inaba, Darryl S. and William E. Cohen. Uppers, Downers, All-Arounders: Physical and Mental Effects of Psychoactive Drugs. 2nd ed. Ashland: CNS Productions, 1995. 174.
But not irresponsible of him to use steroids...
Excerpt from Merck's website concerning Marijuana and pregnancy:
"Marijuana: Whether use of marijuana during pregnancy can harm the fetus is unclear. The main component of marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol, can cross the placenta and thus may affect the fetus. However, marijuana does not appear to increase the risk of birth defects or to slow the growth of the fetus. Marijuana does not cause behavioral problems in the newborn unless it is used heavily during pregnancy."
You can take that for what its worth. THC does cross the placenta but its unclear as to any effects. I smoke all the time but honestly if I was a pregnant female I would stop for the duration of the pregnancy just to be safe.
But to say you can shoot steroids and she can't smoke is the most selfish irresponsible thing you could do. It takes two to get pregnant so your just as liable as she is. Quit the steroids for 9 months and she'll quit smoking weed for 9 months. Problem solved.
tripleOG
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Dude, the baby is already born, this thread is beat. Thank you for everyones info but this thread has been murdered.
mrplunkey
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If moderate AAS use encourages someone to engage in other healthy activities such as eating well and exercising, it's probably a net positive thing.
Here's the hidden cost of pot: Think of all the people who lose ambition and initiative and undermine their own lives? If it were limited to that person, it wouldn't bother me but what about a father who smokes instead of agressively going after that job to improve their family's life?
And yeah, the same can be said for alcohol. It wrecks careers, initiative and familes too. I'm not sure if it destroys initiative as badly as pot does, but that's a separate thread.
Here's the hidden cost of pot: Think of all the people who lose ambition and initiative and undermine their own lives? If it were limited to that person, it wouldn't bother me but what about a father who smokes instead of agressively going after that job to improve their family's life?
And yeah, the same can be said for alcohol. It wrecks careers, initiative and familes too. I'm not sure if it destroys initiative as badly as pot does, but that's a separate thread.
