PCT and my sex drive?

[HAYEZ]

It is important for people to understand though clomid is not a direct replacement for HCG even though it can have similar effects. Clomid can stimulate LH, while HCG acts as LH in your body. So if you take HCG throughout your cycle your body won't neccesarily know that it isn't producing LH on its own therefore when you come of AAS your body will secrete LH just as if it did when not on. Clomid, along with exesmetane can keep the testicles full to some degree but it is definitely not the same effect as HCG.



Nolvadex shouldn't be used during or directly after the use of 19-Nor steroids. It can directly amplify or cause rebound of gyno from 19-nor AAS.

after it clears it can be used... tren a few days..deca around 2 weeks
who in there right mind runs deca or tren all the way up to pct? if so ya already failed to begin with and pct is gonna be fucked

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

I do not know of anyone outside of members on this forum who will state otherwise.

I love this guy!!

 

[ScMc]

I love this guy!!

Im not seeing where he wrote that in this thread.. Did i miss something?

 

[Burpees]

Im not seeing where he wrote that in this thread.. Did i miss something?

It's there.

 

[ScMc]

My bad lol

 

[Nelson Montana]

I have only run DS/PHs.

I have yet to experience any negative sides that are associated with clomid and nolva, but I have never ran each over 50mg and 40mg ed respectively. They are cheap and they work. I do not know of anyone outside of members on this forum who will state otherwise.

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You must not know too many people bro. I know plenty. Hey, there are people who still don't know why they're impotent when taking deca, BUT THEY LOVE IT. That doesn't mean it's smart. There are people who swear ZMA works. What a joke.

It's true, that the otc we recommend isn't as big as some MuscleTech shit, but there are thousands of members here and it they didn't work, you'd be hearing about it.

And again, if clomid works for you , great. But there are better, safer alternatives. I thik your big mistake was not using HCG or HMG which is alway recomended with the use of UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and Sustain.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

im getting emotional sides on clomid, idk if its the clomid or because im sad that im off cycle but I notice that I will get upset and emotional with my girl a lot more. Its pathetic. but im getting stronger and i think its important to include both otc and old school. im doing clomid/aromasin/susatin alpha/UNLEASHED

 

[HAYEZ]

You need a SERM such as nolvadex or clomid when coming off beastdrol. Whoever told u different is a moron.

i agree with you and nolva or clomid needs to be a base to any pct....wether anybody wants to admit it or not thats the truth...

any otc product you want to use along side fantastic...you can never have enough ways of hitting it...

but to ignore the main drugs that have been proven over and over that they work to replace with the new in product is retarded

 

[sonicwaste]

i agree with you and nolva or clomid needs to be a base to any pct....wether anybody wants to admit it or not thats the truth...

any otc product you want to use along side fantastic...you can never have enough ways of hitting it...

but to ignore the main drugs that have been proven over and over that they work to replace with the new in product is retarded

It's not retarted if you don't like the side effects.

Simple fact is that Clomid and Nolvadex have not been proven across the board to restore HPTA. They do for some people and that's great, and they don't for some and those people have to look elsewhere. And then there are another group where they work but cause side effects.

Like I said before, for every study I have seen proving it, I've seen on that disproves it.

It's not really worth arguing over though.

We are here discussing this to provide people with options. I have seen way too many threads from people using just clomid or nolva for PCT and they are having serious issues. There's nothing wrong with providing people with alternate options. But to say Clomid in Nolvadex PERIOD is not a good thing.

 

[HAYEZ]

It's not retarted if you don't like the side effects.

Simple fact is that Clomid and Nolvadex have not been proven across the board to restore HPTA. They do for some people and that's great, and they don't for some and those people have to look elsewhere. And then there are another group where they work but cause side effects.

Like I said before, for every study I have seen proving it, I've seen on that disproves it.

It's not really worth arguing over though.

We are here discussing this to provide people with options. I have seen way too many threads from people using just clomid or nolva for PCT and they are having serious issues. There's nothing wrong with providing people with alternate options. But to say Clomid in Nolvadex PERIOD is not a good thing.

it gets alittle old seeing people bash things that work to promote there own products

anyone that has cycle experience knows what works and whats bullshit so ill leave it at that