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Equipoise- Is it worth it?

Equipose - Is it worth it?

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i stand in the position where i would rather gain a rock hard 5 lbs during a cycle and not loose anything than to blow up 10-15 lbs and only keep half...I like other things but for me...test eq cycle is my fav. I like my bold higher than my test too..something like 400mg test e and 600mg eq
 
I think it's terrific stuff.

The pumps and the vascularity are amazing.
also the way it blows appetite through helps put on size,that usually stays on even after the cycle is finished.
 
EQ is working for me. I already have enough size. I'm on it EQ now and the vascularity is great, veins are showing nicely everywhere. The gains are slow, but worth it.
 
rake922 said:
Some people say don't bother. Others say its fantastic

Where do you stand?
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i love it. i think some dont use high enough dose. 400-800mg depending on goals wk.
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
i stand in the position where i would rather gain a rock hard 5 lbs during a cycle and not loose anything than to blow up 10-15 lbs and only keep half...I like other things but for me...test Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - cycle is my fav. I like my bold higher than my test too..something like 400mg testosterone enanthate and 600mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -
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i second this stance right here..Im curently on wk 10 of eq at 600mg wk and test e at 500mg wk...and am loving life....eq is my favorite aas...the vascularity and the feeling that i am made of steel...and the hunger increase, and the definition of the muscles...all great...
 
I ran it at 600 once before and wasn't too terribly impressed.
But decided to give it another chance at 600 again, just started Mon. so I can't give any feedback.
 
Mac173 said:
I ran it at 600 once before and wasn't too terribly impressed.
But decided to give it another chance at 600 again, just started Mon. so I can't give any feedback.
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Give it time and it will treat you right. I love some eq you can eat to bulk and do the extra cardio to keep you lookin right. You just gotta give it time. anytime i do a cycle with eq, i kick it off with some tren for the first couple of weeks. just as i come off of the tren the eq starts workin its magic.
 
today marks 4 weeks of Test E & EQ...lovin it so far and i think the EQ is just starting to creep. 1 drawback is sometimes the pumps are so intense that i'm losing some range of motion
 
Acela said:
today marks 4 weeks of testosterone enanthate & Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ...lovin it so far and i think the EQ is just starting to creep. 1 drawback is sometimes the pumps are so intense that i'm losing some range of motion
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Eq rocks!! Using Eq(800mg./week) and a little Test prop(250 mg./week) I gained a solid 5 lbs. which i've kept as well as an incredible increase in strength!!
 
anytime i do a cycle with Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , i kick it off with some trenbolone for the first couple of weeks. just as i come off of the trenbolone the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - starts workin its magic.[/QUOTE]


oooooh I think im gonna try that next time!
 
Eq= way increased appetite. red blood cell count goes way up( good for bb'ers cause for the vascularity, good for athletes for cardio without exhaustion,) pretty descent strengh gains. not a mass builder but with the increased appetite and adding say test to the cycle you will definitely be on a bulk. all around good drug. if you think its gonna get you dramatic and quick results, think again and go with a stronger compound. but if you know that whatever it builds is easy to maintain and thats what you want, go for it. Like i said, eq and test is a great cycle, compounds work really well together.
 
I mean, as the homie said...if you are a BBer...you can run it at a gram...get sick vascularity and your hunger will go through the roof...so you can gain
And if your a weight classed athlete like myself...you can run it at 400mg and get a great increase in RBC count and not hold water....
 
Just finished a 12 weeker with 600mg per week and I loved it. I didn't get huge, but I gained lean, quality muscle along with greater vascularity and the cardio benefits. I can't wait to run it again.
 
Funny this thread popped up. I'm about to start my first cycle and the one AS that stodd out to me most after months and months of research was Eq. The fact that the gains were solid and keepable along with the fact it was'nt hepatoxic and didn't have nearly as many sides as other AS's sold me. Most peple told me to throw some Test in there to run along with it to prevent sides, etc. Reputable researchers showed that Eq was just as good a mass stacker as Test if ran right....plus the characteristic it possesses by increasing appetite makes it a perfect AS for the Ectomorph trying to make solid gains he can keep and adding a boost to his/her diet.

My question of opinion is: If I were to throw Test in there with the Eq cycle, should I run the Test E at a higher weekly dose than the Eq or vise versa. For example, should I run TestE 500mg and the Eq at 400gm or should I run E at higher dose and run the Test alongside? regardless of your opinions on how to run these, what would my PCT look like with a cycle like this as a first cycle? Should I be running anything during? Maybe some Nol at 10mg ED as a precaution and run Nolv at a higher dose for PCT? Should I be including an AI in there or would it not be necessary for this dose cycle? Feel free, actually I encourage, posting a during and PCT plan for me so i can get started. Also, don't forget to comment on whether I should be running Test at a higher dose or Eq.

Upon all of my research, you all have given me alot of valuble info and have been great.

Pump Always!

Chiz*
 
I love Boldenone. I go on testo 500-1000 year round and in the summer 6 mounth I took 1000mg test enanthate, 300mg trenbolone enanthate and 800mg Boldenone undecyleanate my muscle and strength go up incredibly. I never had any side effects since I began to run steroids all year.
 
Everybody is saying it makes you super hungry but I am not experiencing that. Weight has gone up about 10lbs and fat down a percent or two. Almost the same results as deca but less water retention. So far very happy with my first run.
 
Considered "mild" but a far more dangerous steroid than people think. Not suited for humans -- causes seats, fever and anxiety. It also increases red blood cell count (as do all steroids but to a much higher degree) which creates increased endurance, super vascularity and a higher risk of hypertension and heart attack.
 
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interesting you just mentioned heart attack i was at 600mg a week eq and at night my heart was beating like crazy trying to sleep and felt like it was gonna explode.Wasnt getting much sleep cause of it id wake up out of breath and my heart beating real fast so i dropped it to 400 a week and so far no problems
 
finishing week 14 500mg test e/ 500mg eq per week loving it up around 15 pounds and bf is down around 3 percent. pumps are awesome too
 
i hae tried it, boldenone 200, and was using sus250 too,
1st time i liked it was great , all my veins started showin,
but then i used it the second time round, and i started having breathing problems off it, so i stopped it, every one is diff ,
 
I already have anxiety and therefore have always stayed away. Did anyone have anxiety issues while on?
 
400mg e/w. On week 5 so far and loving it. Great definition and vascularity. Did notice an outbreak of acne though, but it is starting to subside thanks to a tan and some benzoyl proxide.
 
does it matter how many times a week I inject it? the EQ im getting is 300mg/ml...so it would be easiest for me to shoot 1.5cc's once a week to give me 450mg/week
 
Also, do any of you guys run EQ by itself? I have 3 vials of EQ and 2 vials of Test E on the way....not sure exactly what i wanna do yet....might run the test by itself for 10 weeks at 500mg/week...then do another cycle of EQ at 600mg/week for 15 weeks....or stack them together at 600mg EQ and 250mg of test for 14-16 weeks....or 375mg test and 450mg of EQ for 13 weeks and have some extra EQ left over...
 
no your good with doing 1 shot a week its a very slow acting ester and i would run test along with it at least 250 a week
 
I have done EQ cycle on its own, 500mg/week results were decent enough. Stacked it 400mg with sustanon 500mg and dbol 30mg and results were amazing! I always say the same thing with EQ, make sure you front load it for 2 weeks. If your running 400mg throughout, hit 600mg first 2 weeks first....it will kick in earlier into the cycle.

Like someone said earlier, i think its good to use a steroid that you will keep 90%+ off the gains. Whats the point in blowing up if you wont keep anything. EQ, Primo, Winny, Var are smaller but keepable gains.
 
I love EQ for one reason: increase in appetite, I tend to be a light eater but on EQ? forget it!

Nelson, I have a question for you: can the increase in RBC's and its effect on the heart working harder be controlled by using a water pill like lasix every two or three days to shed water and lower blood pressure?
 
jjaas said:
I love EQ for one reason: increase in appetite, I tend to be a light eater but on EQ? forget it!

Nelson, I have a question for you: can the increase in RBC's and its effect on the heart working harder be controlled by using a water pill like lasix every two or three days to shed water and lower blood pressure?
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Don;t ever take lasix. It isn;t the water as much as the increased blood volume.
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
i stand in the position where i would rather gain a rock hard 5 lbs during a cycle and not loose anything than to blow up 10-15 lbs and only keep half...I like other things but for me...test eq cycle is my fav. I like my bold higher than my test too..something like 400mg test e and 600mg eq
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Same here
 
It seems like I am not putting on the mass that Deca gave me. But I am also eating to get cut so I wouldn't expect that size gain. It seems to be re-shaping my body, giving me much more definition, vascularity, and great strength. Just the look that I want at this time. I get insane pumps as well. I am very happy with it so far in this cutting phase. I can constantly see an increase in definition and that is what I wanted for the summer. (this is at 400mg e/w, 6 weeks in so far)
 
ConanX said:
It seems like I am not putting on the mass that Deca gave me. But I am also eating to get cut so I wouldn't expect that size gain. It seems to be re-shaping my body, giving me much more definition, vascularity, and great strength. Just the look that I want at this time. I get insane pumps as well. I am very happy with it so far in this cutting phase. I can constantly see an increase in definition and that is what I wanted for the summer. (this is at 400mg e/w, 6 weeks in so far)
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nice bud. if its working for you, then stick with it! run it for 16wks
 
My favorite stack is EQ and test. I have to use it for many weeks but it puts on the muscle. I have tried decca but the sides from decca far out weigh it gains. EQ has no sides for me.
 
EQ will change your body composition, Thats why i love it! 600 Wk is the sweet spot!

RADAR
 
BlackIron220 said:
it will change your body comp, but no where near tren!
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Yeah but nowhere near the side affects either. My buddy is on cycle now with sust and tren and I have been taking test e and equipose. I don't have 1 thing to complain about, while he on the other hand, tells me that sleep every night is a struggle and he feels tired all the time. He says the only time he actually feels good is when he is in the gym. Otherwise, tren just makes him feel like shit. Not to mention the rage...I hope to step up to tren someday, but I'm just not ready. Don't wanna knock my girl out in a rage or anything :verygood:
 
very true conan. i do agree with you. i felt the same way on tren. i had to stop. i posted it in that huge tren thread "did tren transform your body"
 
Jeah, I just started my first shot of Tren and the second day I am nearlly impossible to be around.. I argue at everyone, get so aggresive... and don't like not being in control.. jeah in the gym when I go tomorrow I feel i'll detroy it, but is my realtionships with people worth this?
 
Tonight will be my last shot of tren after ten weeks. Tren 75 mg eod, test prop 75-100 eod, EQ 350 wk.. Yes my agression is up, but not really too much more than usual. I have very small amount of patience for assholes and idiots. I got too much other stuff to do than put up with morons. I just go into it a little careful and try to be as tolerant as possible- and as direct as possible, cuts down on blow ups later. The other side of this is that I've been more giving and caring during this entire cycle than I have in a long time. It's been a trying time for a lot of my friends (and myself) and I've been a bit of a go to guy for a lot of people, which I'm proud of. I feel like it balances things out a bit.
 
intresting I hope i get there... I have been on a test combo 300mg / 350 mg eq and now going to take around 300mg - test e/a blend as well as 50mg proviron. as you said I just don't have time for idiots.. things are cut and dry, don't like the little games, etc... I am going to try be as tolerant as I can with people, and maybe instead of blowing up with them, just realize its not even worth it... I think adding the tren has just pushed me to a state now that all I want is my results and people not to get in the way of them... thanks for making it a bit clearer jacshelb.... anyway what i'm intrested in is gym tomorrow, and trying to keep my kidneys afloat with lots of water...
 
I think given time, EQ is very powerful and also quite mild in terms of side effects. For someone like myself and others that suffer from deca-related gyno, it is the perfect substitute and considerably more versatile in its uses for cutting AND bulking. I think it's yet another hate-it or love-it compound, but generally I think people will tell you its benefits outweigh sides. I give it a solid 8/10 overall rating :D
 
I'm right around 8 weeks in (give or take a week) and so far this past 2 weeks I've gained size. I'm cutting now so its pretty crazy to actualy see some mass gains as well. Vascularity is starting to get ridiculous and yeah, Eq is pretty serious if you give it some time. Check out my thread with a before and after pic of me on this cycle. Note that the pic was taken almost 2 weeks ago and I look much better now than before.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...s-pictures/1-month-progress-cycle-649051.html

Thanks
 
conanx said:
i'm right around 8 weeks in (give or take a week) and so far this past 2 weeks i've gained size. I'm cutting now so its pretty crazy to actualy see some mass gains as well. Vascularity is starting to get ridiculous and yeah, eq is pretty serious if you give it some time. Check out my thread with a before and after pic of me on this cycle. Note that the pic was taken almost 2 weeks ago and i look much better now than before.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...s-pictures/1-month-progress-cycle-649051.html

thanks
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nice bud
 
Judging from the results, id say its pretty well liked. I have only had positive effects from it. Its one of my favourites - strength, size, vasularity and very few sides. Only down side is if used for cutting, the appetite stimulation is hard to control. Great for bulking though for that reason alone - you eat like a pig!
 
Yep, size. Obviously not the only steroid used in a mass cycle, but a very handy one.

You get your size from test, its simply the best bulking steroid. Then we have our orals to kick start, dbol and anadrol are the two best options for bulking. Then there is the option of another injectable. Deca is often used but im not a fan, too bloaty and very hard to recover from....not to mention the progestrogenic activity many people get with it. EQ is my fav because it stiumulates the appetite, the strength gains are same as deca and the gains are very lean and easy to keep. Id always use a cycle with either EQ, Primo or Winstrol in an attempt to keep as much muscle as possible. A good post cycle, diet and training routine obviously assist but those steroids provide easier to maintain gains than deca, tren etc. Thats just my opinion though....maybe others feel different.
 
It can be a miracle drug just like it could be the biggest craap ever. It all comes down to your goals. Those who use EQ for the right reasons rarely complain.
 
BlackIron220 said:
how long until the hunger kicks in?
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Suppose it varies person to person and dose dependent. It takes a while to kick in full stop, which is why i ALWAYS front load it for 2 weeks. 600mg 2 weeks, then drop to 400-500mg. Usually takes 5/6 weeks to kick in properly with me, dont know how others find it.
 
It may do for you bud, i dont really notice much for the first 3 weeks at all on EQ but around week 5-6 it all starts comming together!
 
BlackIron220 said:
how much u run it at?
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400mg for 28 weeks. I don't know, some people may respond better to it, but for me it was worthless. Did not increase appetite/strength/vascularity or size for me any more significantly than some crappy supps could. Not impressed, but to each his own.
 
ryno9000 said:
400mg for 28 weeks. I don't know, some people may respond better to it, but for me it was worthless. Did not increase appetite/strength/vascularity or size for me any more significantly than some crappy supps could. Not impressed, but to each his own.
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This might sound stupid, but are sure you were using real EQ?

I know that different AAS can affect different people somewhat differently, but this thread is full of guys that have had success with it. I've read the same success stories on other forums too.

Maybe try a different supplier & see what happens?...
 
ryno9000 said:
400mg for 28 weeks. I don't know, some people may respond better to it, but for me it was worthless. Did not increase appetite/strength/vascularity or size for me any more significantly than some crappy supps could. Not impressed, but to each his own.
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hey bro, maybe you had underdosed gear, or maybe 400mg/week wasnt enough for you. how much do you weigh?
 
ive heard eq is a poor man's primo, and then ive also heard that mast is a poor man's primo lol....... but i bet eq's vascularity is better than primos
 
Yes! The last time I used EQ was the Tt_____ boldenone and I had a great experience. Best of all, I kept a good mount of the gains. I ran 400mg then 200mg. Along with 500mg of Test Cyp for 8 weeks.

EQ > Decca. Less side effects than Decca.

I've seen the great synergy effects of a Test, EQ, Winny stack.

That is what I am trying next.
 
EQ obviously cheaper than primo, so most can afford to run higher dosage of that for longer periods than most are willing to with primo. A big help is if you can get some 200mg/ml EQ, less shots. Id never do it if i could only get the 50mg/ml stuff.

They are very similar really, both produce lean gains and you keep ALOT of it after. For cutting or contest prep i would imagine most opting for primo due to zero estrogen conversion and eq in a bulker due to appetite stimulation and the fact it is a stronger compound that primo. Im actually on both (i know most wont like this combo) with test now, going to see how i get on running both together. Have run each with test before and had better results with EQ, probably due to higher dosage due to me being a tight ass!
 
ryno9000 said:
400mg for 28 weeks. I don't know, some people may respond better to it, but for me it was worthless. Did not increase appetite/strength/vascularity or size for me any more significantly than some crappy supps could. Not impressed, but to each his own.
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You definetely had some bunk crap! I get ripped after wk 16 on the stuff,Chisled beyond description,EQ will completely change your body's composition even at a dosage of 300mg a wk, I never get EQ hunger ,but ! that doesn't mean it's not working.


RADAR
 
RADAR said:
You definetely had some bunk crap! I get ripped after wk 16 on the stuff,Chisled beyond description,EQ will completely change your body's composition even at a dosage of 300mg a wk, I never get EQ hunger ,but ! that doesn't mean it's not working.


RADAR
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this brings a :) to me face
 
I Started my cycle of just the eq last week..just took second shot of 300 mg 1cc of it. i swear i feeel stronger and think im even getting more definition. im 145 pounds..the bottle is dark brown the label says equpoise diesel labs and says cottonseed oil...rubber top. My friend only could get enough for 8 weeks of 300 mg a week..im 145 by the way. im 19 years old and know nothing about any of this:worried:
 
genebean said:
I Started my cycle of just the eq last week..just took second shot of 300 mg 1cc of it. i swear i feeel stronger and think im even getting more definition. im 145 pounds..the bottle is dark brown the label says equpoise diesel labs and says cottonseed oil...rubber top. My friend only could get enough for 8 weeks of 300 mg a week..im 145 by the way. im 19 years old and know nothing about any of this:worried:
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Probably not the best way to start using steroids really is it - i know nothing about any of this. At 145 lbs you are way too small to start using these powerful hormones anyway. My advice would be, stop using them now and train and eat correctly for a few years. When you have put on some size and strength naturally you could make a more informed decision then.... Hopefully after doing some reading and educating yourself a bit.
 
Im very strong though bro..i bench 185 and have pretty big arms and not much body fat..im lean as fuck. Is it really that bad of a decision?
 
Im not trying to put you down at all pal. You are 19 years old and weight 145lbs - thats tiny. Again, im not trying to put you down, im just being honest and trying to help you out. For you to be thinking of steroids at such a small size is not the way forward at this point in time. Benching 185lbs is nothing, most people on here would easily do double that, some maybe triple. Eq only at 300mgs is a terrible cycle anyway. Please listen to advice given to you, stop the drugs and get your diet and training sorted first.
 
300mg is a waste, you will see very little if anything. Again, listen to advice. STOP USING THE GEAR UNTIL YOUR OLDER AND HAVE PUT ON AT LEAST SOME NATURAL SIZE!!
 
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