Tell me why you deserve it...the person who is most convincing gets it.
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Aquaman would have wanted U to give it to me. Seriously, like I may not be as charming, or as hands on, handsome, pragmatic, family oriented as Steve, but U think I"m allright. Also He saved your life, I hear that gets some +1age as well. Seriously, like U got an affinity for the Sea, I'm named after a hawtie mermaid that resembles U, I think the only thing missing in this connection is Christmas K to your favorite asian here.
J/K either way, enjoy Xmas with fam and Aquaman.
Honey I could care less about that k. I will give you all of mine right now and not bat an eye lash.
I am just poking my head in this thread because I saw a friend passing out all her k. So I took a look to make sure she was not leaving.
nono, not at ALL
Thanks to you in large part, I'll be around a little while longer.
I'm just passing along an xmas gift.

Tell me why you deserve it...the person who is most convincing gets it.
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forget the k, give out a titty pic.
honey i could care less about that k. I will give you all of mine right now and not bat an eye lash.
What would mean more to you. Getting something that has cash value, or something that meant something from the sender?Why do I deserve it? I don't. It is an absurd system of trying to establish some sort of value/credibility/recognition/instertyourowndefinition here/etc... on an interwebs site. How does someone go about earning something that has no real value? The karma means something to the person that owns it.
I'd probably just gamble it away in the Karma Bookie events (football playoffs coming up, ya know?) because that little shred of risking something (however meaningless it may be) is all it's really good for... but hell, at least I'm honest about it.
Just sayin'.
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i dontwant it, but happy holidays neffie
What would mean more to you. Getting something that has cash value, or something that meant something from the sender?

Whatever value the sender has placed on something is negated once they decide to give it away to "the person who is most convincing" of why they "deserve" it. If it were a random act of the sender to give away something they valued, it would at least somewhat retain some semblance of value... By requiring/asking someone to "justify" receiving such a gift... has essentially (drastically) cheapened the value of the gift itself, although that doesn't necessarily mean that the gift isn't appreciated.
Would you rather give someone a random gift of kindness to show you care about them, or would you prefer that they first justify to you why they deserve that gift before you decide to give it to them? Which would appear to be more meaningful?
That said, I'd rather receive something of cash value in a case like this.
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Whatever value the sender has placed on something is negated once they decide to give it away to "the person who is most convincing" of why they "deserve" it. If it were a random act of the sender to give away something they valued, it would at least somewhat retain some semblance of value... By requiring/asking someone to "justify" receiving such a gift... has essentially (drastically) cheapened the value of the gift itself, although that doesn't necessarily mean that the gift isn't appreciated.
Would you rather give someone a random gift of kindness to show you care about them, or would you prefer that they first justify to you why they deserve that gift before you decide to give it to them? Which would appear to be more meaningful?
That said, I'd rather receive something of cash value in a case like this.
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So in short you are saying to the sender of the gift. Fuck what this gift means to you!!! I only care about me.
Well hay if that is your stile, all the power to you bro.

Not at all. The first line of my post clarifies that. The act itself of requiring the potential recipient to validate the gift's value (i.e. by justifying how they "deserve"/have "earned" it/ etc.) is what cheapens any meaning/value/worth that the giver had placed on the gift, and that original value/worth/meaning has, at least in part, been negated, if not completely disregarded by the giver. It is then just an object to be toyed with, and is of no real value, except for whatever value the recipient chooses to place on it.
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Well I CAN SEE What you are saying about the giver expecting the recipient to validate the gift's value but.
I still asked you a simple question which you could not answer. Which is. What kind of gift would you like to receive? One tat meant something to the sender, or one that meant nothing to the sender?
because I'm not a mod and therefor I qualify!
Merry Christmas.
Well I CAN SEE What you are saying about the giver expecting the recipient to validate the gift's value but.
I still asked you a simple question which you could not answer. Which is. What kind of gift would you like to receive? One tat meant something to the sender, or one that meant nothing to the sender?
That said, I'd rather receive something of cash value in a case like this.

You said you don't care who the sender is. Have no care in the world about what the gift means to them, and only care about yourself.

anyway who gives a shit. Neff is a cool girl and she is giving away some k. For fun. Asking for people to join in and have some fun. So lets let that happen please and thank you.

Tell me why you deserve it...the person who is most convincing gets it.
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I answered your question in post #16, where I responded:
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This is fucking gay.
Nef sucks since she is a omnisbudsman
and you all know she does
fuck this shit no more ass kissing
Give it to me because you love and totaly 'get' my sense of humor!
I still got them pics you sent me bro. I sell them for karma once in a wile.

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Pdaddy is cool shit. We got a little history. I still got them pics you sent me bro. I sell them for karma once in a wile.
So you would rather get something you can put a cash value on then something that meant something from the sender.
Lets use your logic for a bit. A little 5 year old girl. Maybe your daughter your niece,your little cuz,or even your friends little girl. She gives you a gift.
She spent 5 mins making this gift but to her it was a life time. She made it thinking about you. she made it with love and with hope.
This little girl comes to you and gives your her gift. she wants nothing more then for you to be happy with the gift ( this is the value she has placed on it and expect you to validate this too her). Because she has placed value on her gift you would say to her. I would have rather got a dollar little girl?
How thankful are you for the gifts you get?

I can't believe you people can't do something simple as this for needtoo! The man is doing something good for members who are doing there best to post and stay active on this site. I for one haven't really been here a lot these past few weeks but, I'll tell you this i bust my ass to get in and check the AA board and post on some topics and let people know I am still alive. Needtoo has been a great help to lots of people and i am one of them. Even though I don't have the extra duckets to buy a plat memberships every month I still make sure to use all that this site has to offer and the ideas, thoughts, and help that lots of the guys and girls here has really helped me beat back my diabetes and has give me a solid body again. Back in March when i found out i had it I lost just about 50 lbs and was stuck in the hospital for a month that's when I started really seriously posting and talking to other members about what I could do to get back some of what I lost. I was lucky enough to befriend "Digger" AKA Kevin(rip a great buddy),TANYA and Varga and the big dawg himself Needtoo. The 4 of them really kept me going and helped me learn a new way to combat the sickness eating my body from under me. Digger and tanya helped keep my head about getting better while varga and Needtoo gave me great tips on hitting the gym and training and what i could do down the road cycle wise to help me keep making gains. For the first time all year I feel I am ready to start a new cycle and I know that it's because of these four titans of EF I am able to surpass my platue and keep on adding new mass and getting back the body that I have wanted. Being that I am about to hit the big 40 this year I am committing myself on becoming the most healthy and fit man I can be just to prove to all the people who told me I wasn't being realistic and that I lived with my head in the clouds to much. I would like that K to show that I am more then just a name on this board. That with hard training,clean eating and proper gear usage anyone who comes here a newbie can make it as long as he/she sticks to doing their research and asking the right questions and making friends who steer you in the right direction. Also just one last thing. Having this K would give me the kick in the ass to keep proving to myself and everyone who has helped me on this board to keep going and show the rest of the guys/gals it can be done. I stuck to my guns and did something for myself and am very proud of the changes I made in my life style to get to this point. Thanks for hearing my rant and good luck and happy holidays to all. My new younger Gf is taking me on vacation and we are spending x mas and new years in Seattle with her folks. So I'll try to keep up if not See you guys next year. Needtoo again thanks bro be safe
This is fucking gay.
Nef sucks since she is a omnisbudsman
and you all know she does
fuck this shit no more ass kissing
This is fucking gay.
Nef sucks since she is a omnisbudsman
and you all know she does
fuck this shit no more ass kissing
Not at all. The first couple lines of my post clarifies that. The act itself of requiring the potential recipient to validate the gift's value (i.e. by justifying how they "deserve"/have "earned" it/ etc.) is what cheapens any meaning/value/worth that the giver had placed on the gift, and that original value/worth/meaning has, at least in part, been negated, if not completely disregarded by the giver simply by the act of requiring some version of validation from someone else. This gift is then just an object to be toyed with, and is of no real value, except for whatever value/meaning/worth the recipient now chooses to place on it.
That said, I still wouldn't mind getting a little extra K. Just sayin'.
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I would like your K since I gave you all of mine that one time.
Kthx
Now hold on just a minute. I thought the k meant nothing to you and it's useless and has no value. Why would you want a little more k?
Why do I deserve it? I don't. It is an absurd system of trying to establish some sort of value/credibility/recognition/instertyourowndefinition here/etc... on an interwebs site. How does someone go about earning something that has no real value?
I'd probably just gamble it away in the Karma Bookie events (football playoffs coming up, ya know?) because that little shred of risking something (however meaningless it may be) is all it's really good for... but hell, at least I'm honest about it.
Just sayin'.
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Beefcake....It's not meant to be anything other than for fun.

Nef - I dont need any k (my e-husband makes sure of that)
but wanted to say Happy Holidays!![]()
also known as klonopin
Its Pharmacy time, Thanks for the reminder.
Well this was a bust hahahaha
Since the thread got serious I might as well keep it serious. So I'm giving it three ways - Nev, TXbondsman, and OneBreath for being my source of e-support and giving me a safe place to vent the last few weeks. (needto, I'd include you in there, but I said no mods lol)
((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))
Was I the 4th choice?
How bout a lil love for a starvin asian.
I got a moldy rice cake. Its not much but you can have it.
You rock Brody. I'll totally bet on the Jets with it. (The Iggles ain't getting any)
Because Needto gave me a timeout, and I was your VERY first ombudsman case to work on.![]()

No way, the Eagles are winning. Last thing I want to see is the NY Giants play a division opponent in the playoffs. Fuck that shit.
I have a feeling the Eagles will beat the cowboys and somehow Oakland will make it a close game but will ultimately lose. Getting my hopes up and them leave me disappointed for another year. Such is the life of a Philly fan.
what
You are comparing the innocence of a child's gift with receiving Karma on a chat board? Seriously?
Alright, lets start with this... How many times has that "little daughter your niece,your little cuz,or even your friends little girl" required of you to explain to her "why you deserve it..." and just for added effect, let's throw in the part about "the person who is most convincing gets it" Just to expand on this, lets say you are at a family Christmas get-together kinda thing. Yeah, she made it special... with love and hope. Now, picture her saying that "whomever proves the most convincing gets it". You give your best pitch, and maybe you get it... but, maybe you don't. Yeah, the gift itself was made with love and all that... but guess what? It wasn't made just for you. In fact, it wasn't made for anyone special really. It was just made for whomever she decides to give it to on a whim... So, how much value does SHE place in that gift when she is willing to give it to whomever, with no real meaning behind it at all?
All of a sudden, that "special" gift doesn't hold as much value, does it? Sure, if it was made just for you, it'd be damn near priceless... but it wasn't.
That's exactly the point I was making. If Nef ( I have nothing against her, but I am using her post to make a point) chose to give her K to someone she deemed worthy, without some sort of validation from the recipient... The gift would mean A LOT more to the recipient. As soon as you say something like "Tell me why you deserve it...the person who is most convincing gets it.", that shows that the giver really could damn near care less about the gift she is giving, and that she really doesn't hold any value in it. It is a gift given on a whim. That doesn't mean it is unappreciated by the recipient, but I can't imagine any sincere meaning from the giver when she will so readily give something away to whomever... Maybe that's just me.
BTW, the gifts that were bought/made for me, I treasure greatly... no matter the cost or whatever. But, if someone gets me something out of a sense of obligation (or anything like that), I'm courteous and appreciative, but I don't value those gifts nearly as much, because there is no sincerity behind it.
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LMAO, I totaly forgot about all that.
Fuck, I don't know if I even have those anymore.
lol, good times bro, good times

I save them all mang. Never know when you will need them. I got what I call the (black mail) file. Picks,screen shots of pm's emails all the good stuff
Staying in office takes a lot of work. 
Fuck that, what U said has equal merit.I fold bro. Ya got me on this one. I gave it a good fight though.![]()
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