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A Few Questions Regarding AAS
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Big_Joe
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Kid you're going to fuck yourself up good. I see you being a stick figure and having to take HRT by the time you are twenty five. You're going to permantly shut yourself down and then you will never be able to maintain muscle mass. A doctor will have to give you a script just so you can look somewhat normal (oh and lets not forget getting it up). I didn't start juicing until I was in my late forties. And I'm one of the big guys in the gym. I get respect in the gym not because I am big but because I work my ass off. If you want respect you have to earn it.
This is what really bothers me about this stuff. So many kids thinging "Gee all I have to do is shoot this stuff in my ass and I will be superman." Absolutly brainless.
This is what really bothers me about this stuff. So many kids thinging "Gee all I have to do is shoot this stuff in my ass and I will be superman." Absolutly brainless.
Vanchatron
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LOL @ all of the fucking IGNORANCE & "old man syndrome" in this thread.
Nelson - Your point of "you don't know how to build muscle" I'm not even gonna go into properly, but here's a thought for your thick as shit brain to think over... "hmm how did he get up to nearly 265lbs on his cycle, and 250lbs WITHOUT AAS @ 5,10"?"... Sure I've got 17-18% bodyfat, but that's nothing MAJOR. Are you saying because I'm not 250lbs @ 5% bodyfat, that I DON'T know how to build muscle? You're fucking stupid as shit old man. You know FUCK ALL about me, you have NO reason to say I don't know how to build muscle. Maybe a better approach would have been to say "you don't know how to KEEP more muscle than you kept when you came off cycle", but to say "you don't know how to build muscle" is fucking ignorant of you & quite frankly, it's pathetic. To say "I think you're lazy" aswell, there's another point that's not valid and tbh I could give two fucks what you think of me, you're nothing to me & never will be. You're a high poster on a muscle building forum, that's it, and that's all you'll ever be with an attitude like that towards people. I can sense a lot of people coming forward and licking your ass because I've touched a soft spot in you, but they're rep/forum huggers, let's see them give 2 shits about you in the reason world. About the person who I said knew what he was talking about... Tell me somebody at 280lbs 10% bodyfat DOESN'T know what they're talking about & I'll laugh in your face.
One thing I did have to physically LAUGH OUT LOUD at is the point you made about "THE DRUGS DON'T BUILD MUSCLE OR BULK OR CUT. THEY ASSIST YOU IN THOSE PROCESSES WHICH REQUIRE PROPER TRAINING AND DIET"... NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK. Your dumb as fuck to think that "specific" drugs don't help with "specific" goals though. E.g. Deca/Sust etc for bulking & others for cutting. Yes Deca/Sust can be used on a cut, BUT there are others out there which people would "rather" use because it works better with what they're trying to achieve. You can't sit there and tell me that people wanting to bulk & people wanting to cut, will go ahead & use the same drugs for both goals... You're a retard. I think your little green blocks have gone to your head.
Alcatraz - Researching for more than 4 years & speaking to MANY people about cycling, they have ALL recommended the same thing to me. If it's wrong, then how the hell am I meant to know, if SO MANY people have told me the same thing? It's like people telling me "high reps tone" and I go ahead & do it because everybody told me, but in the end I don't make gains at all... If you had just started out juicing and people were telling you "yeah 1000mg per week for the past 2 weeks is THE NORM and it's fine", what would you do? You wouldn't go against what so many people are telling you is right. Especially since they look like they're been in the game for YEARS on end. If what they told me is wrong, it's their fault, not mine... I'm just following what I thought was good advice.
Joe - I could give a fuck about your vast knowledge, warnings to me or how long you've been in the game, but to anybody who calls me "kid", they can suck my fucking dick. The fact that you're thinking that I'M thinking ""Gee all I have to do is shoot this stuff in my ass and I will be superman" makes you out to be a cliche dickhead with "old man syndrome" thinking that these so called "kids" you're referring to (just because they're younger than you) makes you a somewhat better human being, give me a fucking break. The funny thing is, I never once saw you give any help to my original questions. What do you do, patrol the forums & wait for a "kid" (again not a kid, just somebody you refer to as a kid because they're younger than you) before trying to bash them into the ground for having some simple questions? You... are pathetic, grow up.
Check the rest of my thread if you want and you'll see I NEVER get into an argument with people on here, but to sit here & read all these pathetic posts from so called "knowitalls" WITHOUT them giving any proper answers to my original questions, or being nice about them, really pisses me off.
But I guess that's what I get for coming to a Yank forum, you're all too far up your own asses to realise that the rest of the World fucking hates you, and this is a picture perfect example of just WHY that is.
Anyway, fuck this forum, I'm gone, so have fun typing out an essay long response trying to get me back or whatever it is you Yanks do on a daily basis. I can guaranfuckingtee NONE of you would be as cocky as you're attempting to be in a real world situation. You'd be on your ass so fucking fast, it's not even funny. Remember that the next time you try to give somebody shit on here. Remember that YOU are worthless pieces of shit for trying to come on here & give me shit for no reason. What was the point of it? I'm assuming it was to try & make you out to be the bigger/better man? For your information, you failed at it... Failed epicly.
Goodbye.
Nelson - Your point of "you don't know how to build muscle" I'm not even gonna go into properly, but here's a thought for your thick as shit brain to think over... "hmm how did he get up to nearly 265lbs on his cycle, and 250lbs WITHOUT AAS @ 5,10"?"... Sure I've got 17-18% bodyfat, but that's nothing MAJOR. Are you saying because I'm not 250lbs @ 5% bodyfat, that I DON'T know how to build muscle? You're fucking stupid as shit old man. You know FUCK ALL about me, you have NO reason to say I don't know how to build muscle. Maybe a better approach would have been to say "you don't know how to KEEP more muscle than you kept when you came off cycle", but to say "you don't know how to build muscle" is fucking ignorant of you & quite frankly, it's pathetic. To say "I think you're lazy" aswell, there's another point that's not valid and tbh I could give two fucks what you think of me, you're nothing to me & never will be. You're a high poster on a muscle building forum, that's it, and that's all you'll ever be with an attitude like that towards people. I can sense a lot of people coming forward and licking your ass because I've touched a soft spot in you, but they're rep/forum huggers, let's see them give 2 shits about you in the reason world. About the person who I said knew what he was talking about... Tell me somebody at 280lbs 10% bodyfat DOESN'T know what they're talking about & I'll laugh in your face.
One thing I did have to physically LAUGH OUT LOUD at is the point you made about "THE DRUGS DON'T BUILD MUSCLE OR BULK OR CUT. THEY ASSIST YOU IN THOSE PROCESSES WHICH REQUIRE PROPER TRAINING AND DIET"... NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK. Your dumb as fuck to think that "specific" drugs don't help with "specific" goals though. E.g. Deca/Sust etc for bulking & others for cutting. Yes Deca/Sust can be used on a cut, BUT there are others out there which people would "rather" use because it works better with what they're trying to achieve. You can't sit there and tell me that people wanting to bulk & people wanting to cut, will go ahead & use the same drugs for both goals... You're a retard. I think your little green blocks have gone to your head.
Alcatraz - Researching for more than 4 years & speaking to MANY people about cycling, they have ALL recommended the same thing to me. If it's wrong, then how the hell am I meant to know, if SO MANY people have told me the same thing? It's like people telling me "high reps tone" and I go ahead & do it because everybody told me, but in the end I don't make gains at all... If you had just started out juicing and people were telling you "yeah 1000mg per week for the past 2 weeks is THE NORM and it's fine", what would you do? You wouldn't go against what so many people are telling you is right. Especially since they look like they're been in the game for YEARS on end. If what they told me is wrong, it's their fault, not mine... I'm just following what I thought was good advice.
Joe - I could give a fuck about your vast knowledge, warnings to me or how long you've been in the game, but to anybody who calls me "kid", they can suck my fucking dick. The fact that you're thinking that I'M thinking ""Gee all I have to do is shoot this stuff in my ass and I will be superman" makes you out to be a cliche dickhead with "old man syndrome" thinking that these so called "kids" you're referring to (just because they're younger than you) makes you a somewhat better human being, give me a fucking break. The funny thing is, I never once saw you give any help to my original questions. What do you do, patrol the forums & wait for a "kid" (again not a kid, just somebody you refer to as a kid because they're younger than you) before trying to bash them into the ground for having some simple questions? You... are pathetic, grow up.
Check the rest of my thread if you want and you'll see I NEVER get into an argument with people on here, but to sit here & read all these pathetic posts from so called "knowitalls" WITHOUT them giving any proper answers to my original questions, or being nice about them, really pisses me off.
But I guess that's what I get for coming to a Yank forum, you're all too far up your own asses to realise that the rest of the World fucking hates you, and this is a picture perfect example of just WHY that is.
Anyway, fuck this forum, I'm gone, so have fun typing out an essay long response trying to get me back or whatever it is you Yanks do on a daily basis. I can guaranfuckingtee NONE of you would be as cocky as you're attempting to be in a real world situation. You'd be on your ass so fucking fast, it's not even funny. Remember that the next time you try to give somebody shit on here. Remember that YOU are worthless pieces of shit for trying to come on here & give me shit for no reason. What was the point of it? I'm assuming it was to try & make you out to be the bigger/better man? For your information, you failed at it... Failed epicly.
Goodbye.
swole
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The best way to learn is to accept new information and ways of going about things without feeling insulted.
Having an open mind is the only way to move forward in bodybuilding (along with proper training and diet obviously).
You went about things a little too harshly bro, we're always willing to help. We're a very experienced group of guys, and whether or not the information is what you want to hear, it's there for your consideration. We can't control what you're going to do, but we sure as shit can try to guide you in the right direction.
Best of luck in your quest.
ya guys were a bit harsh...frontloading was pretty normal and useing 1000mg test a week for first 2 weeks isnt a big deal.. 21 and usieng steroids may not be the best idea but he is an adult and can make his own decisions. nobody keeps all there gains off cycle unles they stay on for good and thats a fact... 5 10 at 250 is a big guy
Sorry...hafta disagree. This is a prime example of why dosages are going up and guys are looking worse. It's anti-bodybuilding IMO. 21 years old, first cycle, a gram of gear? Ridiculous. Yes, he's an adult and can make his own decisions -- that doesn't make them good decisions.
Steroids should be used to enhance and further training. Any moron can take a lot of gear. Any idiot can eat a lot and throw some weights around and weight 250 with 18% fat. That's not bodybuilding.
He didn't not keep all his gains, he LOST ALL his gains. That shows he's on the wrong track. And all he was looking for was for someone to tell him he needed MORE gear. That's the wrong message.
Somebody has to keep it real. If it means some kid called me names to do so, I can live with that. In the end more people may be helped even if one jerk doesn't like what he hears.
Wow. That guy just acted like we told him he had a cancer or something. Too bad some people can't take advice. He's not with us anymore.
his cycle wasnt a 1000mg ew...it was just a front load..completely different then running it for 10 weeks.
250 at 18% fat ... i know many people that want stregnth and bulkiness over lean and abs...
my point was you guys kinda jumped down his throat... that was all...
he doesnt need more gear doses... he just needs some diet advice and he would of been good to go
His post was very disrespectful and he argued "rudly" with everyone who tried to give him advice.
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