I'm so confused...what to take?????

[Black Boxster]

Hey guys...first time post...so please don't flame me
Let me start with a little history. I'm a 44 yr who recently has started worked out again after several years of a break after having torn my distal tendon and biceps muscles in both arms ( It literally "popped"..you could hear the snap )

In my youth I used AS steroids, and cycled several cycles. Before my Bicep tears I was a cut 205 at 5'10. I let myself go and got fat..really, really fat. 276lbs with a 34% BF. I'm your typical fat middle aged guy...never would you guess at one time I was a serious lifter. I do blame Steroids partial for my tears as I had muscles that were too strong for my tendons.....no use of my arms for six months....I ate to death and and didn't train at all for six years...

Went through some old photos a few months back while the wife was scrap book and I was like WTF..took a deep look in the mirror and realized I was a fat fuck!

Since April I've got down to 232 with just diet and work out 6 days a week (4 days strength training, 2 days cardio and yoga/stretching). My diet has been a high protein. moderate carb, low fat diet, watching portions more than calories.

I'm not getting the results I want, so I was looking to enhance my workouts and diet. Considered going to a Dr for HRT( Wow...Doc wants $695 for initial visit..and up to $4900 for six month of HgH and test therapy) and go the legal route...don't want to really go the illegal route, so looking for some Effective legal alternatives.

I was considering doing a cycle of HgH and T3 and clenbuterol ( illegal route) till I found this site and another forum.. I'm trying to do the impossible...build muscle while burn fat/lose weight...can anyone recommend any of the products here that would gave me the effects I'm looking for???

Several companies/ sites have product that interest me. Endoamp, Phyto-Testosterone, CLA, Dermacrine
From another site: 4-AD, 1-Androsterone, Arom-X, maybe even Cyclo Tren
Could I add a ECA product for fat burning to products like those mentioned above???

Way too much info to assimilate...really need help trying to make sense of everything.

Thanks guys!!

 

[needtogetaas]

The user 'Black Boxster' has been gifted a platinum membership!


Bro its good to see you over here. I saw you just the other day on the pp site. Send me a pm bro. I would love to help you. Also I have some pretty good discounts on every product sold on this site and on the pp site

I promise you not many people will take the time to work with you one on one day by day and explain
everything to you step by step. There is so much info out there it can get overwhelming. Send me a pm for
help any time bro. This gos for every one.

 

[Black Boxster]

WOW...first post and I get awarded a Platinum membership...THANKS!!!!!!

Thanks for all of your advice on the other forum...made me want to come over here and learn more...my eyes are popping out from reading so much..

 

[needtogetaas]

WOW...first post and I get awarded a Platinum membership...THANKS!!!!!!

Thanks for all of your advice on the other forum...made me want to come over here and learn more...my eyes are popping out from reading so much..

Good shit bro. Stick around and become part of the family.

If you are looking for legal steroids there are some out there. Yes they are real steroids and they are legal. Pm me will talk good bro.

 

[DasWolf]

Welcome to EF bro. I like you saw an old picture of me when I was in my prime lifting like there was no tomarrow, and then looked in the mirror and wanted to get myself back. Heres a little thing I did to keep myself motavated....
Take the fat basterd picture and tape it on your mirror so its the first thing you see in the morning. Make a copy of that pic and tape it to your pantry or fridge door. Where ever your wife keeps the fat food that will hamper your journey to muscle gains. Old habits are hard to break. Every morning I look at that fat basterd on the mirror and say never again! Good luck bro.

 

[mwm5]

needto will take care of you.

just to throw it out there for another route if needto doesn't suggest it. you could try lipo from agxsports. it works great and would help with your bf% and help you get through your work out/cardio sessions.

welcome to ef and pm me any time as well bro. we're all here to help each other reach goals and feel good about ourselves (no homo though, lol)

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Welcome to EF bro. I like you saw an old picture of me when I was in my prime lifting like there was no tomarrow, and then looked in the mirror and wanted to get myself back. Heres a little thing I did to keep myself motavated....
Take the fat basterd picture and tape it on your mirror so its the first thing you see in the morning. Make a copy of that pic and tape it to your pantry or fridge door. Where ever your wife keeps the fat food that will hamper your journey to muscle gains. Old habits are hard to break. Every morning I look at that fat basterd on the mirror and say never again! Good luck bro.

This is an awesome plan of attack.K to you bro.

 

[DasWolf]

This is an awesome plan of attack.K to you bro.

I tell you....what ever works right?
And my fat basterd pic is scary too. LOL

 

[the_alcatraz]

Welcome to EF bro...

Needtogetaas will take care of you for sure.

I've noticed you had a high BF% and you called yourself a "fat middle-aged man" in your introduction....I'd consider Proteabody - they have great fat burning products and things that help you gain lean muscle, energy and lose the fat when you workout. PM me and I'll hook you up with more info on their products.

 

[Black Boxster]

Thanks for the warm welcome and kind words of encouragement. There is just SO much information on this site..a little overwhelming. Seems like alot of good people, with alot of great advice...just have been going through reading tons of post and trying my best to get an education.

Things are alot different from when I was serious back in the 80's and early nineties....so many more products..everything seems fine tuned. We only had Weider and twinlabs!

Hope to transform my body to the body I know I can have...not afraid of hard work..Have worked 10-14hr days everyday for 19 years (...part of the reason I let myself go...wouldn't take time for myself once I was injured...more focused on career and MONEY)

I have everything I want in life, except happiness with my own body..the last several months have been difficult, but rewarding as I keep having to buy smaller clothes and my energy levels increase.

Keep up the great advice and thanks for all of your help. It is really nice to see a bunch of positive people...brothers to give a helping hand..than the typical egos and nasty that are so common on so many difference forums!

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks for the warm welcome and kind words of encouragement. There is just SO much information on this site..a little overwhelming. Seems like alot of good people, with alot of great advice...just have been going through reading tons of post and trying my best to get an education.

Things are alot different from when I was serious back in the 80's and early nineties....so many more products..everything seems fine tuned. We only had Weider and twinlabs!

Hope to transform my body to the body I know I can have...not afraid of hard work..Have worked 10-14hr days everyday for 19 years (...part of the reason I let myself go...wouldn't take time for myself once I was injured...more focused on career and MONEY)

I have everything I want in life, except happiness with my own body..the last several months have been difficult, but rewarding as I keep having to buy smaller clothes and my energy levels increase.

Keep up the great advice and thanks for all of your help. It is really nice to see a bunch of positive people...brothers to give a helping hand..than the typical egos and nasty that are so common on so many difference forums!

You can thank the admin of this board for that bro. They allow me ,mava,eddy,swole,the mentors and the cotb's to run this board. They allow us to demand respect and demand people follow the rules.

Because of this there is no ego's or bullshit fighting on this board. We have a great team in charge and that reflects down into our members. When you have good leaders, when you have rules set and enforced. You end up with a good clean board full of respectful people. This makes for better spread of help and knowledge.


(please do not go to chat on this board. Its not like that over there).