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Opiate Withdrawl Right Now: Need Some Advice...

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jumpshot said:
what really suprised me is how many ef regulars have battled addiction. well I guess what really suprises me is that I didn't expect it.

seems like many people have replaced their drug of choice with lifting/juice. perhaps the addictive personalities are now addicted to something else? good thing lifting and proper use of juice is healthy!


I have pointed this out before, but it is rarely responded to, and that is that probably most bbr's out there - maybe upwards to 80% are true addicts or have the "addicte gene" or potential addict personality. Even though body builders are shoving heroin into their veins, their shoving gear into their muscles or popping dbol tabs to get their fix - their fix is the rush of working out - the result of the workout and of course - pure vanity. Don't get me wrong fellow bbrs...there's nothing wrong in looking good, but who are we kidding when we say "Oh, I'm living the healthy lifestyle cuz I eat right, don't do drugs.." yet it's almost hypocritical to say that since steroids is a drug. Sure, you're not getting an overwhelming sense of euphoria that numbs your body and mind, but the exact opposite. When I studied everything about steroids and their sides, I was like "well if I don't abuse steroids...I should be fine.." Well that is true, but what constitutes abuse? I listened to a doctor on a well known radio show admit that taking steroids at the appropriate dosages above the norm shows and proves to be good to the body resulting with positive effects - muscle growth. But taking gear like most ef bbrs hear do is straight out abuse. I mean, come on, 2-5 grams per cycle? even 1 gram of gear is a lot for the body and then we wonder why there are so many of those "Hey bro's .. I think I have gyno.." or those other posts, "i know my cholestoral results are horrible...but..should I stay on cycle or get off.."

We talk ourselfs into believing that we aren't addicts..If you would have asked my 15 years ago if I would have ever stabbed myself with a needle just to grow muscle, I would have told you, "are you high? I don't cheat..cheaters are losers!" But then, I found a nice nifty new drug, and that drug was speed and ecstacy in the early 90's. I was spun out for 2 years and finally got sober on my own. But , I also learned something about myself that I kind of liked that rush..so fast forward to age 30 - working out for over 11 years at this point, can't grow anymore, started taking prohormones - saw some benefits and the right guy showed up at the gym who introduced me to eq and now well...i love gear :) And I know there are consequences to using gear. Hell, I just had a major gyno removal / lipo surgery because of gear! Am I going to do gear again? Well...yes..Is it risky...well...yes...Am I an addict ....well..no...not in a true sense that is..I can start and stop anytime I want..I don't have that drive that my 'addict' friends have. Quite possibly most of us are like that, we have that potential to become an addict to something given the right circumstances, while others are just born that way. Some of us have injuries or medical conditions which require meds which cause us to be physiologically addicted..and yes, it's really hard to quit.. I guess it's a struggle within us all to find the right path and I guess if we stay focused we won't lose control. And for those who are trying to get off of pain killers, if you can't do it your self, you'll need some help.

Big_Joe, when you withdraw from your morphine, taper slowly - over weeks. This might take up to 2 months to do. If you need help in a taper plan, pm me. But, here's the catch: As you withdraw from your meds, your body will cause you to feel more pain that you actually are feeling physically, therefore, you'll crave the morph even more. It's your body's pain receptors coming back alive and you're feeling pain you haven't felt in a while. We all feel pain and we get used to it and after a while, we don't feel normal aches and pains anymore because our brains adapt to it, with the except of real injuries. So, withdrawing from morph will seem like hell, which it is, but those pains will start to leave in about 10 days. If you are taking morph from a doctor who is prescribing it, tell him, or go to another doc and let him know that you want to w/d from pain meds to see how bad your 'real' pain is. He can prescribe you meds that will ease you off without the withdrawls. Once you get sober, see how you feel and then decide which way you want to go - to get back on or to stay sober.

The funny but sad thing I found out is that most speed addicts end up using steroids...and that kind of hit close to home for me :p

Good luck with your withdrawls and if you need any help, we're all here for ya.

Also, anyone who is abusing pain meds and is trying to get off, you might want to research or google "kratom". It's a natural herb thats legally sold that acts like an opiate in your system reducing the pains of w/ds and even giving you a slight euphoric effect. It works for most people. It usually comes in a powder which you turn it into a tea and then you drink it. I personally, haven't tried it..but it works wonders...
 
Spare Tire-Big props to you for your candidness. I couldn't agree with you more. Too bad that many here won't see the forest among the trees. Dope comes in many forms-and not all of them are chemical based.
 
tnx cracker..

i know we (humans) are flawed, so we must help each other in the best way possible. True, using gear might not be technically sober, but for the most part, if used correctly can promote a healthy lifestyle. And hell, it's sure of a lot healthier than the alternatives like heroin, speed, crack, etc... :)
 
We we probably break a google record. Everybody is going to be looking up
" kratom ". Thanks for the advice. I appreciate you taking the time to post all of that. Peace.
 
sparetire said:
tnx cracker..

i know we (humans) are flawed, so we must help each other in the best way possible. True, using gear might not be technically sober, but for the most part, if used correctly can promote a healthy lifestyle. And hell, it's sure of a lot healthier than the alternatives like heroin, speed, crack, etc... :)

Hell, you don't even need to go there. The lifestyle of working too much, sleeping too little, eating shitty foods, and daily consumption of tobacco products/booze the typical American has must be way worse for you-and it's totally normal, socially acceptable and legal to live that way. Yet, in most people's eyes, roid users rank lower on the loser-meter than these everyday, avg. guys that have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
 
do not stop cold turkey.....contact your doctor or a methadone clinic and explain to them what is going on and they will instruct you what to do..dont listen to anyone advice but a doctor that specializes in them..pills are a horrible thing to start taking...if you can do without then never start...sorry you have to suffer through this
 
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