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sweed said:
I haven't maxed out yet...hit 315 three sets of six yesterday
Was thikin maybe i could max out at 450 maybe 500
don't know....next time I deadlift going to try for 365 three sets of six
gainin fast, I think i am a easy gainer
5' 9" 195 just gained another five pounds in the last five days
It makes me wonder if my scale is broken
can see a visible difference in my appearence though
If i keep gainin going to have to by some new clothes
everything is gettin tight
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Madcow2 said:
lol....someday that will be me
wnt2bBeast
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Madcow2 said:
damn you have a high standard
Andy Bolton's WR is 933
700+ is a damn good pull i think
Guinness5.0
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Currently I'm using 405 for eight. I'd like to know what that translates to in terms of a 1rm, but the thought of a back injury (again) terrifies me. A little while back I pulled 455 for a triple.
I was trying to lend some realism to the poll options at the top that go up to 1200 as an "all out bad ass".wnt2bBeast said:
But 900 is god and 800 is incredible, and 700 is great. Granted there are big gaps worthy of definition between those marks i.e. someone pulling 780 or 850. If 700 was God there's be way too many of them running around.
EDIT: I'm betting you thought I meant 'good' when I typed 'god' for 900.
wnt2bBeast
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Madcow2 said:
how did you know lol
i realized after i posted it but i figured id leave it and see what you say lol
535@193
missed 545@182 (currently dieting down to 181's) two days ago. i got it to knee level and stalled. im going to do a different warmup sceme next week and ill get it.
lol i like how your poll goes up to 1200, i dont think anyone will ever pull that much. i doubt anyone will ever hit over 1000.
missed 545@182 (currently dieting down to 181's) two days ago. i got it to knee level and stalled. im going to do a different warmup sceme next week and ill get it.
lol i like how your poll goes up to 1200, i dont think anyone will ever pull that much. i doubt anyone will ever hit over 1000.
Tweakle
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700 is incredible. You're one of the strongest people on the planet
600 is way more than almost any member of this site will ever pull, including guys running heavy cycles.
500 is very impressive for a natural.
400 should be attainable for almost anyone after a years hard training
300 is more than anyone in my gym has ever pulled
200 is great for a woman
600 is way more than almost any member of this site will ever pull, including guys running heavy cycles.
500 is very impressive for a natural.
400 should be attainable for almost anyone after a years hard training
300 is more than anyone in my gym has ever pulled
200 is great for a woman
wnt2bBeast
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Tweakle said:
surely you are joking..i know what you can do and i respect your lift..
quite frankly i think 6 is attainable natty if one were to train for it (not easy)
700 is an incredible lift but there are many competitors pulling that and more
ghettostudmuffin
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I'd say about 420lbs right now. 11 months training.
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Tweakle said:
I'll hit 600 by next year.....watch me
when I hit it will get video and post!
wannabebig1
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465 lbs at 5'9 190 lbs not on juice ... been doing them for about 1 and a half years ... 365 x 10 reps yesterday at 175 lbs under 10% bf... not gona attempt a max ..
nsashbl01
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Most I've pulled was 365 for 4. I'm only 195 at 6' and didn't really do deads till a year ago or so. Shoulder issues limit me, but I'm confident I'll rep 405 by the end of the Summer. I train at a local gym and at a Golds and no one does deads. If they do, its no more than 2 plates!
sonic_death_monkey
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Pulled 495 at 195lbs when I was 18 yrs old.
Just got back into deadlifting this year. Pulled 495 last week easily, thought about powercleaning it. But I'm 25 now and weigh 225lbs, so I guess I should've expected such.
Just got back into deadlifting this year. Pulled 495 last week easily, thought about powercleaning it. But I'm 25 now and weigh 225lbs, so I guess I should've expected such.
Tweakle
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you dont think being a member of the 700+ club makes you one of the strongest people in the world? I'm far from joking.. thats an awesome acomplishment
600 may be possible for a small majority of people unjuiced but I know big, strong (450+ raw benchers) guys running g's a week who can't do it. It's all a matter of perspective.. remember most gyms aren't like nazbar and wsb and most people are pussies
there are huge, strong farmboy types who could probably get it unjuiced but I aint one, and I know most people who train aren't.. took a long time to get to 655 and some serious chemistry experiments
600 may be possible for a small majority of people unjuiced but I know big, strong (450+ raw benchers) guys running g's a week who can't do it. It's all a matter of perspective.. remember most gyms aren't like nazbar and wsb and most people are pussies
there are huge, strong farmboy types who could probably get it unjuiced but I aint one, and I know most people who train aren't.. took a long time to get to 655 and some serious chemistry experiments
Tweakle said:you dont think being a member of the 700+ club makes you one of the strongest people in the world? I'm far from joking.. thats an awesome acomplishment
600 may be possible for a small majority of people unjuiced but I know big, strong (450+ raw benchers) guys running g's a week who can't do it. It's all a matter of perspective.. remember most gyms aren't like nazbar and wsb and most people are pussies
there are huge, strong farmboy types who could probably get it unjuiced but I aint one, and I know most people who train aren't.. took a long time to get to 655 and some serious chemistry experiments
agreed, I've only trained with one person that could outdeadlift me(which is kind of sad), as most just never put the energy into it, not like they do with benching. My old training partner is ranked # 2 in canada I believe, with a 900lbs competition squat, and he only pulls around 700lbs, so I would say thats one hell of a lift
Tweakle
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lol I gotta take the GO train up to your part of the world sometime.. I'm on a crazy bulker right now and my strength is off the hook & I need a reality check to remind me that being the strongest lifter in Bally is as impressive as being the smartest kid in a special school
Some people have potential but just never use it.. one guy I trained with pulled 405 for a few easy reps the first time he ever tried the lift, but I dont think he's ever pulled since
Some people have potential but just never use it.. one guy I trained with pulled 405 for a few easy reps the first time he ever tried the lift, but I dont think he's ever pulled since
wnt2bBeast
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Tweakle said:you dont think being a member of the 700+ club makes you one of the strongest people in the world? I'm far from joking.. thats an awesome acomplishment
600 may be possible for a small majority of people unjuiced but I know big, strong (450+ raw benchers) guys running g's a week who can't do it. It's all a matter of perspective.. remember most gyms aren't like nazbar and wsb and most people are pussies
there are huge, strong farmboy types who could probably get it unjuiced but I aint one, and I know most people who train aren't.. took a long time to get to 655 and some serious chemistry experiments
of course 700 is an awesome pull..but its just become so common in elite circles that now the bar is high 7's or 800
hell i think 655 is an awesome pull
if you meant the average joe shmoe (bally dude) then yeah they wont have the desire to wanna pull that much..i think with dedication it is attainable but youre going to have to want it and its not going to be easy..
my feeling big benchers make bad deadlifters..may or may not be true..long levers are great for pulling (Ano Turtiannen) but their bench suffers this is for some but not all..look at garry frank hits 8's on both deads and bench
i think youre right. my ex pulled 500 off the floor his 1st time ever pulling. but he's a big ol farmboy at 6'5 and 300 lbs (natty). I think after a few years of training he was up about 600Tweakle said:lol I gotta take the GO train up to your part of the world sometime.. I'm on a crazy bulker right now and my strength is off the hook & I need a reality check to remind me that being the strongest lifter in Bally is as impressive as being the smartest kid in a special school
Some people have potential but just never use it.. one guy I trained with pulled 405 for a few easy reps the first time he ever tried the lift, but I dont think he's ever pulled since
Tweakle
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wnt2bBeast said:
ah I see what you mean now
yeah big benchers are usually crappy pullers, I think because they focused on bench for so long at the expense of other lifts.. deadlifters are more likely to be all round trainers. At least we have bigger buts even if the big benchers always look way more jacked than us pull-monkeys
Don't know. I regularly pull 315 for sets of 8, but never go higher. Dunno why. Just figure form is most important. That and I kinda buy into AAPs' deal on how deads thicken your waist. I don't need no help in that department. Plus it aint like I lift trucks for a living, so whats the point?
wnt2bBeast
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bignate73 said:shit, try a wimpy 335....
my fricken GM weight is closing in on my DL weight. WTF?
would sound to me like your pulling with no quads?
nothing wrong with that but maybe getting lower to the bar and using the quads to break the floor may improve your dead???
block pulls are good for that
wnt2bBeast
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for te bodybuilders Vic Martinez is a big fan of deads and has a small waist..
its all illusion if your naturally thick in the waist youll just have to grow bigger lats
its all illusion if your naturally thick in the waist youll just have to grow bigger lats
view said:
This is very true. About three years ago i had a 29-30" waist at the same bf im at now. I now sport a 33" waist (with a six pack) from deadlifting heavy for so long. But all around my physique looks much more developed and im stronger from deadlifting. For me personally, i can deal with having a thicker waist than most, when the positive is that i am stronger all around.
If you have less muscle proportionally at your core than you have at both ends (i.e. legs and torso) you are underdeveloped here.
Considering your core is what ties your upper and lower body together and allows them to exert cohesive force - you have a problem. Being weak in this area will not only result in very sub-par real world application of your strength (a very nice way of saying Ferrari body with 130hp 4 cylinder engine and yugo brakes) but is also dangerous simply because it is the weakest link that will fail first and injuries to this region can be debilitating.
So a "wasp" waist might be something desirable on the stage to create an illusion of extra size but it leaves one critically unbalanced and prone to injury. There is a reason PLs are core and posterior chain nuts - this stuff is essential to being strong as it is the foundation and structure of your power.
Considering your core is what ties your upper and lower body together and allows them to exert cohesive force - you have a problem. Being weak in this area will not only result in very sub-par real world application of your strength (a very nice way of saying Ferrari body with 130hp 4 cylinder engine and yugo brakes) but is also dangerous simply because it is the weakest link that will fail first and injuries to this region can be debilitating.
So a "wasp" waist might be something desirable on the stage to create an illusion of extra size but it leaves one critically unbalanced and prone to injury. There is a reason PLs are core and posterior chain nuts - this stuff is essential to being strong as it is the foundation and structure of your power.
Madcow2 said:
So you're saying that I need to be DLing 500+ in order to have a strong midsection? And that sets of 8 at 315 is not enough to strengthen my core? I disagree with you here. I am no Powerlifter nor do I ever plan on being one. I want to look good and be stronger than most guys in the gym, which I am.
We need AAP in on this one.
hardrock said:
I think if you read my post I didn't say anything of the kind. I'm refering to a combination of where one's upper body and lower body are significantly stronger than one's core. It's far more prevalent in BBing due to the preference of a tiny waist. I don't know anything about how you are built or what your other lifts are. If you think this might fit, I'd certainly make an effort to bring my core up to par just for basic health but only you know whether this applies or not.
wnt2bBeast
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Madcow is on the money
my core strength/size has exploded since doing westside
and yet i still find i need to make it stronger how else am i going to carry 1,000lbs on my back..
i use my abs in every lift even benching
my core strength/size has exploded since doing westside
and yet i still find i need to make it stronger how else am i going to carry 1,000lbs on my back..
i use my abs in every lift even benching
Here's why I think deads are just a pissy waste of time:
First of all, they do thicken your waist. Muscle or not, it gets thicker.
Second of all, people do deads on the day they train back and after such a draining effort of hauling weight up off the floor for no reason, they don't have enough energy, focus or CNS reserves to really hit the back the way it is suppose to be hit.
Third, what part of the back does it hit? Lower back? You can do hyper extensions and reverse hypers to detail that area. And a detailed area will always look better and bigger than a thick area. Deads touch on other areas with the stress (whole body actually), but I am going to tell you that you are not going to get the same growth inducing size from deads that you will get from exercises that target your back more specifically and in better harmony than with your natural body biomechanics. Face it. When you are hauling something up off the floor, the primary movers are your quads anyway. As any Good Employee Safety Program says... lift with your legs.
You want rods of iron going up your mid back to your skull? Then work the traps with that intensity. Most people simply do barbell, dumbell or machine shrugs for traps. Hello? Have you seen an anatomy chart of trapezius location and composition? Those things run 3/4 of the way down your back. But most people don't realize this and train accordingly. Sitting on a row machine, you can hold the handle and try to pinch your shoulder blades together without bending your elbows and thicken the mid traps. You can hit lower traps by hanging from a chinning bar or on a lat machine and shrugging your shoulder blades down and backwards. The range of movement is about 2 inches and if you do it right, it will cramp hard on every rep.
Also, don't be fooled by so and so pro BBer saying they do them. I know for a fact that Lee Haney never did deadlifts, despite being photographed and filmed doing them. He just did that to follow a script someone else wrote. Hell, in Lee Haney's gym, deadlifts are forbidden. You do them, they show you the door.
You take all that energy and time you are wasting in doing deads and apply it to a more intelligent and thorough back and trap workout and you will see much better results.
Besides, the lower back area is composed more of tendons and connective tissue than actual muscle. I can assure you that when you reach 40 years old, you are NOT going to be happy with fucking around in that area with heavy weights 10 years prior.
First of all, they do thicken your waist. Muscle or not, it gets thicker.
Second of all, people do deads on the day they train back and after such a draining effort of hauling weight up off the floor for no reason, they don't have enough energy, focus or CNS reserves to really hit the back the way it is suppose to be hit.
Third, what part of the back does it hit? Lower back? You can do hyper extensions and reverse hypers to detail that area. And a detailed area will always look better and bigger than a thick area. Deads touch on other areas with the stress (whole body actually), but I am going to tell you that you are not going to get the same growth inducing size from deads that you will get from exercises that target your back more specifically and in better harmony than with your natural body biomechanics. Face it. When you are hauling something up off the floor, the primary movers are your quads anyway. As any Good Employee Safety Program says... lift with your legs.
You want rods of iron going up your mid back to your skull? Then work the traps with that intensity. Most people simply do barbell, dumbell or machine shrugs for traps. Hello? Have you seen an anatomy chart of trapezius location and composition? Those things run 3/4 of the way down your back. But most people don't realize this and train accordingly. Sitting on a row machine, you can hold the handle and try to pinch your shoulder blades together without bending your elbows and thicken the mid traps. You can hit lower traps by hanging from a chinning bar or on a lat machine and shrugging your shoulder blades down and backwards. The range of movement is about 2 inches and if you do it right, it will cramp hard on every rep.
Also, don't be fooled by so and so pro BBer saying they do them. I know for a fact that Lee Haney never did deadlifts, despite being photographed and filmed doing them. He just did that to follow a script someone else wrote. Hell, in Lee Haney's gym, deadlifts are forbidden. You do them, they show you the door.
You take all that energy and time you are wasting in doing deads and apply it to a more intelligent and thorough back and trap workout and you will see much better results.
Besides, the lower back area is composed more of tendons and connective tissue than actual muscle. I can assure you that when you reach 40 years old, you are NOT going to be happy with fucking around in that area with heavy weights 10 years prior.
bignate73
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AAP said:
1. if its not muscle thickening your waist, its fat... and its not deadlifts doing that.
2. I agree, most people waste time doing it on "back" day, because its primarily a lower body exercise and should be rotated in as such. going back to that statement, then there should be plenty of time and energy if back work is done on upper body days.
3 & 4. what part of the back doesn't it hit? statically and concentrically. those thick cords you allude to are contracted under way more load than isolated shoulder blade pinches. not to mention the amount of glute, ham and erector work. all of this in one exercise vs. a low pulley, high pulley, hyper/rev. hyper machine, leg press, leg curl.
5. heaven forbid if the door fell off the hinges...no one there could pick it up.
6. more spices in a dish doesn't make it a better dish. it just takes alot longer to make.
the term "bang for your buck" comes to mind with compound movements that get bashed on bb sites. Its amazing how the simple things that work so well get over thought by breaking down every muscle involved to a ton of isolation movements thats are supposedly superior. i have yet to see someone doing tricep kickbacks who has better triceps than someone who can bench press a house. but tricep kickback man will have to also do cable flyes, front raises, and side raises to yield the same as a simple bench press. its like trying to reinvent the wheel. bb'ers have to microscrutinize the inner most cords of the teres minor in order to bring out such and such blah blah blah....ROW HEAVY!
as for a detailed smaller bodypart looking better than a thick bodypart. so lagging a muscle group so it looks "sharp" under lean conditions is the way to go? i always thought a larger muscle group under lean conditions would stand out more! its like looking for detail flying over iowa, or flying over new york. bigger building stick out more. its topographics.
sonic_death_monkey
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Tweakle said:ah I see what you mean now
yeah big benchers are usually crappy pullers, I think because they focused on bench for so long at the expense of other lifts.. deadlifters are more likely to be all round trainers. At least we have bigger buts even if the big benchers always look way more jacked than us pull-monkeys
Dude, You said "Pull-Monkey"..... awesome.
I'm totally a pull monkey.
On another note....maybe someone can answer this question: I developed a bit of a strength imbalance in my right leg. During squats I would favor my right leg and lean a bit. Eventually I injured my "left" leg in the upper vastus lateralis..near the hip. It only hurt when I would squat.
The injury didn't seem to hurt nearly as bad when I would Deadlift. Maybe from not having to go parallel.
Anyhoo....the injury is healed, but the strength imbalance isn't quite cleared up. However, I'm pulling 500+ .
Maybe I should've posted this on another board, but being as we're talking about deadlifts, I thought someone would have some insight.
wnt2bBeast
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bignate73 said:
thats perfectly fine..if youre doing GM's with your dead stance its less taxing on teh CNS to build your GM rather than pulling 1rm every week..its what WSB is built on although they are doing a lot more special pulls these days
wnt2bBeast
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as far as doing dead to each their own..i do them for a completely different reason than a BB'er would
ill just say this AAP is not normal lol
ill just say this AAP is not normal lol
I'm just not in the isolation boat or of the mind that someone can isolate individual muscles and arrive at the same or supperior net stimulus. That would make the combo of leg extension and leg curls equivalent to squatting, dumbell flies and front raises the equivalanet to benching, and now I guess some shrugs, cable rows, and hyper extensions the equivalent to deadlifting.
The best and most effective compound lifts all do one thing, heavily load the entire system and multiple muscle groups through a basic and fundemental range of motion (squat, dead, press, row, etc..). Regardless of the amount of isolation work done, the quality of the stimulus and it's ability to force adaptation is vastly lessened. Granted, if one takes enough drugs or if once is a novice one can see progress but one will still make better progress natural or at any equal dosage doing it right. The dead is not essential in and of itself but the isolation argument doesn't hold logically because it would have to be applicable to other lifts and it isn't. An all isolation workout nets a small weak trainee.
Personally though, pulling from the floor is a fundemental movement for the human body. It's a shame that most trainees only know how to deadlift and not clean/snatch because they don't have the option of performing effective but less taxing alternatives - not a big deal for a novice but if you are strong the dead can take a lot out if done on a consistent basis. You can work around not doing deads but the bottom line is that it is one hell of an effective exercise for developing the entire body. If I couldn't squat and pull, I wouldn't lift anymore.
The best and most effective compound lifts all do one thing, heavily load the entire system and multiple muscle groups through a basic and fundemental range of motion (squat, dead, press, row, etc..). Regardless of the amount of isolation work done, the quality of the stimulus and it's ability to force adaptation is vastly lessened. Granted, if one takes enough drugs or if once is a novice one can see progress but one will still make better progress natural or at any equal dosage doing it right. The dead is not essential in and of itself but the isolation argument doesn't hold logically because it would have to be applicable to other lifts and it isn't. An all isolation workout nets a small weak trainee.
Personally though, pulling from the floor is a fundemental movement for the human body. It's a shame that most trainees only know how to deadlift and not clean/snatch because they don't have the option of performing effective but less taxing alternatives - not a big deal for a novice but if you are strong the dead can take a lot out if done on a consistent basis. You can work around not doing deads but the bottom line is that it is one hell of an effective exercise for developing the entire body. If I couldn't squat and pull, I wouldn't lift anymore.
wnt2bBeast
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SublimeZM said:
what will pics prove??
AAP has an amazing physique however there are very few if any that can copy him and achieve the same results...
deadlift if you want or dont dont do them..but do not skip them because AAP doesnt do them
Scotsman
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SublimeZM said:
How is it off topic? This is another rebuttle to AAP's statement. Besides as a powerlifter all pics do is prove if you're big or not as most of us aren't lean enough to show off our muscular develpment. If you want to be a bodybuilder then no deads aren't 100% necessary but if you are a powerlifter than there isn't any alternative.
Cheers,
Scotsman
the reason i said its not related is cause im on madcow's side on the whole deadlifting thing and i wanted to make it clear i wasnt calling him out.
hes just really knowledgeable and it got me curious cause hes never posted about his stats/lifts/or pics...im just curious is all
hes just really knowledgeable and it got me curious cause hes never posted about his stats/lifts/or pics...im just curious is all
wnt2bBeast
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SublimeZM said:
good man-g keep it up
Tweakle
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Deads are mandatory for anyone genetically typical.. and that's thats. Deads, chins and barbell rows all have a knock-on effect on each other.. bigger deads = bigger rows and vice versa.
Sadly DoggCrapps anaology that anyone who can pull 500 for 15+ reps is 'huge' isnt always the case.. I have some monsterous trap development going right now and my back is pretty jacked from all the heavy pulling.. but the overall look isnt a bodybuilder-ish one. Guys with much smaller torsos and bigger arms look 'larger'
Sadly DoggCrapps anaology that anyone who can pull 500 for 15+ reps is 'huge' isnt always the case.. I have some monsterous trap development going right now and my back is pretty jacked from all the heavy pulling.. but the overall look isnt a bodybuilder-ish one. Guys with much smaller torsos and bigger arms look 'larger'
wnt2bBeast
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bignate73 said:
err yeah thats the way i view it too lol
not doing them means you dont ever maybe you try it out but then you drop em..never to do them again
Dl'ing means you pull period..
I dont necessarily DL each week either some weeks speed pulls are done other weeks block pulls some weeks i dont DL at all
I still do heavy deads every second week, but despite being able to pull huge amounts of weight(I've posted vids pulling up to 550 for 5, 500 x 10 reps, etc), my back has always sucked ass, so they have never done much for me. Since I started doing them less, and concentrating on everything else, my back has grown
I got a 365 and missed a 400 but I should get that in the next couple of months. I never really trained for them before but it is more fun than it looks. Somethin' about "grip it and rip it" gets to me. I got a 400 squat and a 345 bench and I would like to be able to say I got 400+ in all the lifts someday. I'm 51 years old and probably don't have too many meets left in me. But just maybe . . . .
jdevlin1985
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396lbs (180kg) for 7 reps at 19, 185lbs at 5'9 1/2 at mo - my best so far
tatman3177
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i have done 315 for three. have maxed at 395 for one. striving for more. my boy bionicbc done 455 for 2. dont think hes tried to max it yet.
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BadboyAl
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I thought my 415 dealift at 205bw was pretty sad, but judging by all these comments it isnt to bad.
I think 600+ is a good deadlift. I barely trained deadlift for the past year and after focusing for 1 1/2 months of working deadlift I hit 415. So if someone worked the deadlift for a year i see 500 being reasonable and 600 a great pull over a few years,
over 650 is great 750+ would make you a top lifter....
I think 600+ is a good deadlift. I barely trained deadlift for the past year and after focusing for 1 1/2 months of working deadlift I hit 415. So if someone worked the deadlift for a year i see 500 being reasonable and 600 a great pull over a few years,
over 650 is great 750+ would make you a top lifter....
Andrew Evans
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My best pull is 555@181. For me, shorter cycles with bigger jumps work better than longer cycles. I feel more recovered when I allow eight or nine days in between pulling sessions.
nsashbl01
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I get nervous going heavy w/ deads. Too old and had too many injuries! Most I ever rep is 345, bumped it up last back day and pulled 365 easily. I'm gonna work up to 405 over the next month or so, but am pleased so far. I have grip issues, (skinny hands) and am only 195ish at just over 6'. Funny though, I train at a local gym, and a Golds. In the past year I've seen maybe a handfull of guys doing deads.
StealthPower
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Chambewy20
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Andrew Evans said:
I agree, heavy deads are extremely taxing on your CNS and it takes a long time to attain that high of fitness level or work capacity to where heavy deads don't kick your ass for two solid weeks.
StealthPower
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You can pull heavy every week. You just need to monitor your total volume. I dont pull anything heavier than a single on any DL type movement, nor do I train under 85% inless deloading or speed training.
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jacked clown
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A lot of people might think they can deadlift a lot, but I have seen someone pull 405 with wrist straps and only 300 bare handed. And I once saw someone deadlift 500 with a trap bar and only able to do like 395-410.
GoldenDelicious
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i just came into the forum looking for something on deads
i have done deads 4 times over the past 5 years - one session yesterday, one session about a year ago, and a couple of bullshit sessions sometimes before that
im natural, dieting (low cal, low carb
), weigh 178ish at the moment at 5 9, and i pulled 400 for one after a couple of work sets at 320
cant say i felt much the next day though, dont know if ill do it again..
i have done deads 4 times over the past 5 years - one session yesterday, one session about a year ago, and a couple of bullshit sessions sometimes before that
im natural, dieting (low cal, low carb
), weigh 178ish at the moment at 5 9, and i pulled 400 for one after a couple of work sets at 320cant say i felt much the next day though, dont know if ill do it again..
gmobbcapone
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335 at 5'8 165 is that good? I just started doing DL's in my gym routine and I gotta say I love them! I recently sustained a shoulder injury and haven't been able to do any upperbody weight training. DL's are a real great workout for me, I usually warm up with just plates for about 10-15 reps then I do 185 for 8 reps and then I do sets of 3 reps adding weight every set until I feel my form starts suffering (ie; my lower back starts to bend) should I stop here or go until I can't lift the bar past my knees.
Sam Knighthill
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530 with just a belt, no suit and no straps. Sumo stance. I must add that I'm a lifetime natural which explains I can't lift more than that
chrisjenkins
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760 pound at 198
nsashbl01
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jacked clown said:
imo it depends on your goals. If your a powerlifter trying to lift as much as possible, fuck the straps. A rec or competitive bb looking to strengthen your back as much as possible without having to build your grip, use straps. I used to use straps in the Summer because my hands get fucked up from watersports, and wouldn't use them in the Winter. Now I use them year round because I'd rather have a strong back than strong hands. I can pull just as much either way but I can't rep as much without straps.
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update for me my dl max is now 365 w straps @170. I have been doing DL's for less than a year hopefully in a couple of months I can hit 400. My main sport is jiu-jitsu and sub grappling, for all you wrestlers and fighters I can say that my strength and performance has improved significantly since doing deadlfts. If anybody has any other lifts that make u more explosive besides squats of course I'd love to hear bout them. peace
405# at 5'8'', 190lbs for me. Haven't tried higher, will soon after my 5x5.
Why is a trap bar easier? I've never tried one?
I used to use straps all the time when I DL'ed over 225. I had some WEAK ass forearms. So I stopped using straps and only DL'ed what I could w/o straps. Between that and grip work, my forearms soon caught up to my back.
BTW I DL traditionally.
Why is a trap bar easier? I've never tried one?
I used to use straps all the time when I DL'ed over 225. I had some WEAK ass forearms. So I stopped using straps and only DL'ed what I could w/o straps. Between that and grip work, my forearms soon caught up to my back.
BTW I DL traditionally.
for all the guys talking about using straps, dont, they are just a crutch and you will regret using them. If you need assistance(which you will once you start going heavy) pick up some lifting chalk online, it helps a ton. I have trouble repping 405 without chalk, but can do rack lockouts with 700+ with chalk.
vin01 said:
A trap bar is easier because of where the line of the weight crosses, right through your body, so you're not having to lever the weight up off the floor from in front of the body and not bringing the weight up your legs. It's more of a straight up movement. I feel trap DLs in my quads and calves and I understand traditional style hits you more in the hamstrings and glutes.
Some people have described trap DLs as being like a cross between squats and traditional deadlifts and I'm inclined to agree. The mechanics are different from a traditional deadlift, which is why they're great if you've got spinal problems which would otherwise make it impossible for you to safely squat or deadlift (my case).
