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Best oral for ORAL only cycle...

11bInBalad

11bInBalad

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I'm looking for the best oral for an oral only cycle. I'm not somewhere where I can comfortably use pins although I am lifting and eating like never before. Just want to max my gains. Been lifting for 4 years, just turned 27, bf at 15%. Let me know what you all think about an oral only, also this'll be my 1st cycle. Thanks.
 
scared of points? anyways if you wanna put on some lbm ith no sides and amazing strength go with anavar! if its your first time i wouldnt go the dbol-adrol rout. there can be some and usually are some nasty sides. or you can go the winny route, but there are sides with winny too...mpb, joint pain, and even though they are both 17's var, unless your drinking like a fish or taking tons of painkillers, is not usually too toxic for the liver.
if your goals are to put on 20 lbs of lbm thats not likly gonna happen no matter what you take! i happened to be very lucky and kept well over 20 lbs on a var only cycle, but concensus here is that was a fluke.
 
Not at all afraid of pins, rather stuck in the middle of the desert. My goals are very realistic; I would like to drop my bf a few % points and add say 10-15 quality pounds (keep after PCT of course). I have no problems with inj. AAS but it's just not feasible where I am right now (not only the aspect of hiding them but the sanitary aspect). I definitely will go with a good test enan. only cycle when I get home. If I'm not out patroling, I eat, lift, and sleep. I don't think I could have a better schedule to maximize the benefits! Anyone else have any good advice?
 
var or dbol/letro or dbol/winny I'd say.
 
winny and var would require too many mg(17aa) each for me to want to run for any prolonged amount of time.
 
SuperDawgy said:
Winny OR Var, but not together. Winny if you wanna cut up, Var if you want a little more strength and size.
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i agree however i still think var is much better! it will cut ya up as much as winny too! the only argument i can think of by using winny over var is price!
 
tboy72 said:
i agree however i still think var is much better! it will cut ya up as much as winny too! the only argument i can think of by using winny over var is price!
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I can agree with that. I can never find Var when i'm trying to cut. BTG var if you can find it bro, you'll like it.
 
i would go with var i want to try that anyhow :)

if not then i would say winny

and im now wondering if anyone has ever tried winny and oral tren


good luck
 
11bInBalad said:
I'm looking for the best oral for an oral only cycle. I'm not somewhere where I can comfortably use pins although I am lifting and eating like never before. Just want to max my gains. Been lifting for 4 years, just turned 27, bf at 15%. Let me know what you all think about an oral only, also this'll be my 1st cycle. Thanks.
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Halotestin.

Strength gains are off THE CHAINNNNN!

DIV

:chomp:
 
DIVISION said:
Halotestin.

Strength gains are off THE CHAINNNNN!

DIV

:chomp:
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i never tried halo! can you discribe as much as possible about it for me....im always wanting to learn! i will do some searches on it, my source dosent have it yet, but i think it may be comming soon.
 
a short var/dbol cycle would be interesting
 
DIVISION said:
Halotestin.

Strength gains are off THE CHAINNNNN!

DIV

:chomp:
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I was about to say just about the same thing. A var/halo cycle is what I'm about to start. Probably an 8 weeker. From everything I have heard and read this stack is the bomb for an oral only cycle.
 
What are the ups and downs of a halo/var cycle? Would the strength AND mass be proportional? Also, a good dosage for a first timer? I'm 27, 200lbs, and sitting right around 15%. Been lifting for awhile too.
 
im thinking of running an oral only cycle too,what compound do you guys think its better for me?i was thinking of anavar,im 23 years old 13% bodyfat im 1,80m(5 feet 11) 200 lbs im trainning seriously for 3 years and im at the point that i think my diet is very good just like my rest and my workout routine so i tought that there was time for a little push,with this cycle i will hope to cut a bit on my body fat and gain a little or maintain my muscle mass while im on a low calorie high protein diet,do you think that there is need of using a anti aromatizing from begginning or only if i feel some sympthoms?its not very common for var to aromatize right?im gonna do a pct too,another doubt that i have is regardless to my testosterone levels and libido problems?whats your opinion on this?and dont flame me plz this will be my first cycle,sorry about my bad english im portuguese.cheers
 
iflex said:
im thinking of running an oral only cycle too,what compound do you guys think its better for me?i was thinking of anavar,im 23 years old 13% bodyfat im 1,80m(5 feet 11) 200 lbs im trainning seriously for 3 years and im at the point that i think my diet is very good just like my rest and my workout routine so i tought that there was time for a little push,with this cycle i will hope to cut a bit on my body fat and gain a little or maintain my muscle mass while im on a low calorie high protein diet,do you think that there is need of using a anti aromatizing from begginning or only if i feel some sympthoms?its not very common for var to aromatize right?im gonna do a pct too,another doubt that i have is regardless to my testosterone levels and libido problems?whats your opinion on this?and dont flame me plz this will be my first cycle,sorry about my bad english im portuguese.cheers
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Turinabol+Anavar or Turinabol+Winstrol.

Turinabol+Anavar is a very safe option, expect a lot of strength and hardness, virtually no visible side effects, but no huge gains of mass can be expected. Turinabol+Winstrol would be a worse solution (as for side effects), but the result wouldn't be much different.

Halotestin is a sh*t. I would never take it.
 
From what little i've researched and read, stacking two orals is generally avoidable. I'm into the 3rd week of my second cycle. My 1st one was an oral only dbol cycle. I ran the dbol for 6 weeks @ 30mgs and put on 18lbs out of which i've kept 12 and its been 4 months now, so i guess they are mine :)

Tbol run @ 90mgs thereabouts would be interesting too. You could probably run it for 8 weeks and then do a trs pct. You'll have decently keepable gains without the dbol bloat.

Cheers.
 
concordsize said:
Karm to anyone who can prove to me that var at a reasonable dose will cause liver damage.

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That's like saying "prove that a reasonable amount of cigarette smoking causes any damage at all." There is none. Because the only way to test the effects of any damage inducing practice is to examine the result of excess. That doesn;t mean it doesn;t cause any. 17AA strains the liver and Var is 17 AA. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Anywho, I'd say dbol would give you the best bang for your buck. 20 mgs of dbol will grow more muscle than 20 grams of var. It would be less toxic than 40 mgs of var. And it'll be cheaper.
 
Nelson Montana said:
That's like saying "prove that a reasonable amount of cigarette smoking causes any damage at all." There is none. Because the only way to test the effects of any damage inducing practice is to examine the result of excess. That doesn;t mean it doesn;t cause any. 17AA strains the liver and Var is 17 AA. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Anywho, I'd say dbol would give you the best bang for your buck. 20 mgs of dbol will grow more muscle than 20 grams of var. It would be less toxic than 40 mgs of var. And it'll be cheaper.
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Nelson,

I have talked to alot of people who claim dbol only bloats you up with water and you loose it
all after your off the dbol. i have a few cycles under my belt but have not used dbol before and i would like to try it with my up coming cycle. i would like to know your opinion on this.

.

thanks:)
 
i think beastdrol or dieselbolan would be better than var or dbol. the stuff really kicks ass and its cheap as hell.
 
theperfectdrug187 said:
60mg for 6 weeks elevated my liver enzymes above normal range.
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I ran Anavar for 2 months, as much as 80 mg/day - and although my liver enzymes were elevated by ca. 60%, they were still within the normal range. Hence I don't think that liver toxicity would be a serious issue in me. Cholesterol values were highly elevated as well, but they returned back to the normal range within mere one month after the cycle. Taken together, Anavar seems to be a great choice for me.
 
11bInBalad said:
Not at all afraid of pins, rather stuck in the middle of the desert. My goals are very realistic; I would like to drop my bf a few % points and add say 10-15 quality pounds (keep after PCT of course). I have no problems with inj. AAS but it's just not feasible where I am right now (not only the aspect of hiding them but the sanitary aspect). I definitely will go with a good test enan. only cycle when I get home. If I'm not out patroling, I eat, lift, and sleep. I don't think I could have a better schedule to maximize the benefits! Anyone else have any good advice?
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Hands down without a doubt do turinabol. Var? why bother over tbol, longer cycle and is SHIT on your lipids. Some ppl said it has no sides - a friend of mine loves it, but he certainly doesnt love the blood tests he just got back. Murders lipids.
Tbol 4 weeks 40mgs a day or 50mgs if your over 200lbs. Youll love it and will perhaps never find another oral as good.
 
11bInBalad said:
Not at all afraid of pins, rather stuck in the middle of the desert. My goals are very realistic; I would like to drop my bf a few % points and add say 10-15 quality pounds (keep after PCT of course). I have no problems with inj. AAS but it's just not feasible where I am right now (not only the aspect of hiding them but the sanitary aspect). I definitely will go with a good test enan. only cycle when I get home. If I'm not out patroling, I eat, lift, and sleep. I don't think I could have a better schedule to maximize the benefits! Anyone else have any good advice?
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Anavar. use creatine and do lots of cardio you will be happy with what you get.
 
Quote posted by 11bInBalad
Not at all afraid of pins, rather stuck in the middle of the desert. My goals are very realistic; I would like to drop my bf a few % points and add say 10-15 quality pounds (keep after PCT of course). I have no problems with inj. AAS but it's just not feasible where I am right now (not only the aspect of hiding them but the sanitary aspect). I definitely will go with a good test enan. only cycle when I get home. If I'm not out patroling, I eat, lift, and sleep. I don't think I could have a better schedule to maximize the benefits! Anyone else have any good advice?

Speicher here.

Tbol/var is what you want. I would do 70mg Tbol/40mg var a day for 8 weeks and you will be VERY happy. You will need to drink alot of water because there can be some pretty crazy back pumps and aches from it if you do not.

Get some fish oil tabs, Milk Thistle, Liver support and you should be good to go.
 
I plan on doing var only for 6wks 50mgs ED , goals are strentgh gains 20%, -2%bf and 5 lbs muscle gain...Is it ok not to run PCT if having no side effects and liver problems?
 
@dabuffguy sorry man, @ozcroboy in my country steroids are legal and not so expensive(you can order it online) but beastdrol, epistane or helladrol i cant find any of them...
 
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