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LGD-4033 and S-4

John Juan

John Juan

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I just ordered Superior LGD-4033 today. I'll start it Wednesday.
I currently running the S-4. I love it but got stupid on dosing at 100-150mg per day and after a couple weeks everything white looked yellow and I had trouble seeing at night. So, I stopped for two weeks and my vision is perfect again. White looks white. I just started it up again yesterday but only 50mg per day preworkout, I have read 50mg will not causes sides so time will tell.

With LGD-4033 I'm going to either start at 5mg or 10mg per day.
What do you guys recommend on dosing, knowing I'm extreme in what I do?
 
Alright, I just got advice from a friend who suggests I start with 5mg LGD-4033 per day for the first week and gradually up the dose 1mg at a time until I feel I'm getting the results I'm looking for.

With the S-4 I'm noticing improved vascularity almost immediately. I noticed this last time as well and foolishly upped the dose thinking more was better but now I'm convinced 50mg per day is plenty to get the results I want.
 
You two guys that started at 10mg, did you notice any negative sides?

My one friend said 10mg was too strong for him and he weighs 250Lbs.

Should I split the dosing of 5mg twice a day, or just take it all preworkout?
 
I was on 1250mg of Test w/ 600mg of Deca, plus Dbol and Anadrol, so it is hard to say.. lol
 
The only sides I felt were a headache for a few days when I first started and slightly vested blood pressure. I just took the whole dose in the morning since it has a longer half life
 
STTM said:
I was on 1250mg of Test w/ 600mg of Deca, plus Dbol and Anadrol, so it is hard to say.. lol
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Hahaha nice! I'm on 500mg sustanon, 600mg deca, 600mg eq, 200ng tri-tren blend, and 100mg anadrol/day. We cycle like beasts!!! I love it!!!
 
jtmdell said:
The only sides I felt were a headache for a few days when I first started and slightly vested blood pressure. I just took the whole dose in the morning since it has a longer half life
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My friend mentioned headaches at 10mg. That's why he suggested I start with 5mg and slowly increase dose until I peak at 15mg.
 
I think 10mg would be a good dose for you. But no harm in starting at 5mg and seeing how you respond. Then move up 1mg a day till you get to 10mg. Stay there for a few days and that should be enough but knowing you I doubt it :D If you want to up again just do it by 1mg ed till you get to about 15mg. I felt sick when I upped from 5 to 10mg but nothing major. But I know how good you have been feeling recently with your new supplements, added cardio and good diet so best not to chance things. I will restart my LGD-4033 soon. I just want another 2 weeks of detox!
 
Elvia1023 said:
I think 10mg would be a good dose for you. But no harm in starting at 5mg and seeing how you respond. Then move up 1mg a day till you get to 10mg. Stay there for a few days and that should be enough but knowing you I doubt it :D If you want to up again just do it by 1mg ed till you get to about 15mg. I felt sick when I upped from 5 to 10mg but nothing major. But I know how good you have been feeling recently with your new supplements, added cardio and good diet so best not to chance things. I will restart my LGD-4033 soon. I just want another 2 weeks of detox!
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I bought a bottle of Superior LGD-4033 for my friend and his girlfriend to share. What's a good dose to start her on? She wants to compete in physique. She has used winstrol, turinabol, Anavar, and equipoise. She has a poor response to gear which means no side effects at all but gains were only great on turinabol.
 
This is my 4th day back on S4 at 50mg. My vision doesn't have a yellow tint to it yet but night vision is slightly affected at this dose. Vascularity is much improved.

My LGD-4033 is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
 
This is Day 5 on the S4 preworkout at 50 mg. I'm getting a hell of an arm pump right now. It's really kicking in. I do notice a slight yellow tint to things this evening. Tomorrow I start LGD-4033 at 5mg.
 
John Juan said:
I bought a bottle of Superior LGD-4033 for my friend and his girlfriend to share. What's a good dose to start her on? She wants to compete in physique. She has used winstrol, turinabol, Anavar, and equipoise. She has a poor response to gear which means no side effects at all but gains were only great on turinabol.
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I would start her at 3-5mg and see how she is. Stay on any given dose a few days before upping. I imagine she will probably end up on the same dose as her bf but best to be careful.
 
Elvia1023 said:
I would start her at 3-5mg and see how she is. Stay on any given dose a few days before upping. I imagine she will probably end up on the same dose as her bf but best to be careful.
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Oh. I was thinking start her at 1mg but if you think 3mg is safe then I'll bump her up to 3mg very quickly. I just don't want her to get any masculinization.
 
I just took my first dose of LGD-4033. I took approximately 6mg and held it under my tongue for a couple minutes to let the grain alcohol fully pull it into my bloodstream sublingually. The way I know it has been fully absorbed under my tongue is that after a few minutes the alcohol taste is gone.

Tonight I train chest . I'll take my 50mg of S-4 preworkout with my tadalafil.
 
That's some nasty teasing stuff....but damn it works!


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depotgang said:
That's some nasty teasing stuff....but damn it works!


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Hahaha it reminds me of drinking cheap alcohol in tiajuana.

My strength is up on chest. I'm training now and my heavy set feels like a warm up set. I'm amped too.
 
I bought a bottle of Superior LGD-4033 for my friend and his girlfriend. I had him take 5mg preworkout and she took 2.5mg. I had them hold it under their tongue for a few minutes until all alcohol taste was gone to guarantee full sublingual absorption. They both said the pump was insane and they could have trained forever but had to get their kids out of the day care room.
 
This morning I took 5mg LGD-4033. I think I'll take another 5mg preworkout with my 50mg S-4. I'm really having fun trying out these SARMs.
 
I upped my dose of LGD-4033 to 10mg. I'm extreme in everything. Go big or go home!
I notice an increase in aggression, nothing I can't manage, but it's definitely there.

My S-4 yellow tinted vision and night vision have stabilized, meaning they aren't getting worse. I'm going to stick with 50mg as this level of vision sides is very manageable. At 100-150mg is got to where I wasn't comfortable with the side effects.

I would definitely compare S-4 results to that of Anavar.
LGD-4033 is more intense and gets me amped while I train at the gym. It's very strong stuff, more like anadrol!!!
 
Ive been running 10mg LDG for about 3 months now, probably gained 15 lbs DURING my recomp
I'm 5'11 at 240 at about %17 BF now guestimated

Almost ready to cycle off (last bottle) and do post recomp measurements.
Love how S4 feels, hard to get used to the vision sides, the combo is the best.

Haven't tryed Oster yet, thinking about post cycle three month cruising on it with DAA and Tongcat
 
FitnessSeattle said:
Ive been running 10mg LDG for about 3 months now, probably gained 15 lbs DURING my recomp
I'm 5'11 at 240 at about %17 BF now guestimated

Almost ready to cycle off (last bottle) and do post recomp measurements.
Love how S4 feels, hard to get used to the vision sides, the combo is the best.

Haven't tryed Oster yet, thinking about post cycle three month cruising on it with DAA and Tongcat
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Just curious what are your goals? Do you want to be huge and bulky or would you like to be huge and ripped? What was your body fat % 3 months ago?
 
FitnessSeattle said:
Ive been running 10mg LDG for about 3 months now, probably gained 15 lbs DURING my recomp
I'm 5'11 at 240 at about %17 BF now guestimated

Almost ready to cycle off (last bottle) and do post recomp measurements.
Love how S4 feels, hard to get used to the vision sides, the combo is the best.

Haven't tryed Oster yet, thinking about post cycle three month cruising on it with DAA and Tongcat
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I'm posting a 50% off S.A.R.M's sale tomorrow for SuperiorPeptide. Perfect time to pick up Oster.

I really like these S.A.R.M.'s too. They feel different than AAS but just as effective.
 
John Juan said:
I'm posting a 50% off S.A.R.M's sale tomorrow for SuperiorPeptide. Perfect time to pick up Oster.

I really like these S.A.R.M.'s too. They feel different than AAS but just as effective.
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I think I will be experimenting with SARMS a lot my next cycle. I will be restarting my LGD in a few weeks and can't wait :)
 
S4 is my favorite SARM. I didn't think much of it at 50mg a day but when I slowly worked up from 50mg it just got better and better.

Like doing one 25mg dose and one 50mg dose everday. Vision sides are there but I just got use to them. Going from outside to inside causes a grey haze until I adjust. waking up at night with all the lights off is as if i'm walking around with my eys closed shut. But I make due because I've run more than once and the vision sides go away withing a few days every time.
 
VikingBro said:
S4 is my favorite SARM. I didn't think much of it at 50mg a day but when I slowly worked up from 50mg it just got better and better.

Like doing one 25mg dose and one 50mg dose everday. Vision sides are there but I just got use to them. Going from outside to inside causes a grey haze until I adjust. waking up at night with all the lights off is as if i'm walking around with my eys closed shut. But I make due because I've run more than once and the vision sides go away withing a few days every time.
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My yellow tint has seemed to lesson but when I go from outimside into a place I'm temporarily blind. Hahaha it's crazy because people talk to me and I can't see who they are. I love the muscle changes from S - 4 and LGD - 4033. They bring out veins and muscularity. My rage from LGD is lessening but still there somewhat for sure. I get pissed while driving.
 
I just talked to my friend who I bought an LGD - 4033 for. He said the pumps are incredible at 5mg preworkout sublingually and his girl
says the same thing with her 2.5mg dose. I'm having him double his dose today and take half upon waking and half preworkout. I'll tell him to up his girl's dose too.
 
Elvia1023 said:
Just curious what are your goals? Do you want to be huge and bulky or would you like to be huge and ripped? What was your body fat % 3 months ago?
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I'm probably overestimating how much lean mass, (wishful thinking... self deception.. ) I've gained, but I'm up 15 lbs in 3 months, and yet have significantly dropped fat based on visual only., weight is probably water from CJC

Was at %22 (measured) not at about %17 (abs finally starting to show structure, lower ribs visible, arms and shoulders vascular.)

GF says I'm 'big enough' now so should start cutting seriously, I'm actually prepping for a fitness model gig with a friend that is in the fashion industry (LAF) so I'm under huge pressure (this is good)

Im 5'11' 49'' chest 17.5 arms. I 'want' to be bigger but there's no good reason to be except to fill out a suit. so 7-8% BF is what I REALLY need to do now.

So I think .I'll long cruise on S4 GW CJCDAC (and maybe Frag) after a sarms washout period.

Your thoughts?
 
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My vision returned to normal since lowering my S -4 dose to 50mg. It's so nice to see white again. Life in yellow was hard to get used to.
I'm leaning out nicely from the S -4 and LGD - 4033. S -4 truly is on par with Anavar in terms of results. My LGD aggression has calmed down. I'm only feeling benefits, no more rage. My pumps are incredible and strength is climbing.
 
My vision returned to normal since lowering my S -4 dose to 50mg. It's so nice to see white again. Life in yellow was hard to get used to.
I'm leaning out nicely from the S -4 and LGD - 4033. S -4 truly is on par with Anavar in terms of results. My LGD aggression has calmed down. I'm only feeling benefits, no more rage. My pumps are incredible and strength is climbing.
 
My male and female clients I put on LGD are getting very good results; increased muscle tone, increased training intensity, strength gains and better pumps.
 
My GF likes S4 because she can 'feel' it, but is getting TOO shredded on it (vascular quads) so shes switched to LDG instead, working on building some big glutes =]
 
jtmdell said:
Just added s4 to my run of lgd and mk677 and can already feel a nice boost in strength and endurance
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I notice that too even after a break that when I restart this S.A.R.M.'s they kick in extremely fast. S -4 brings out vascularity immediately.
 
Gonna restart my LGD-4033. I will dose 5mg pre workout today. I have the day off so can take my time getting ready and really push it in the gym. I will work up to 10mg per day so things should get good :)
 
I ended up dosing half a dropper pre workout so 7.5mg. I can't say what difference it made as I took quite a few things pre workout yesterday. I did have an amazing workout though but that will be from the cocktail of things I took (pre workout, PGE-1, 3-MHD, MINDFUEL and LGD-4033). I tend to keep things very simple and that is a lot of stuff but the mix felt great. I will carry on dosing the LGD at 7.5mg per day.
 
I can already feel my aggression going up. This stuff really is great for the gym. I don't know if I have become more of a pussy cos I am struggling to keep this in my mouth when dosing. It's the same bottle I used last time. We use grain alcohol for our research liquids for increased absorption. But this one is the strongest I have used by far. My eyes were even watering holding in under my tongue for 3 mins :o
 
I am taking a few things so in no way am I attributing my recent training to LGD but I have to say the combo I am using now is giving me the best workouts ever. LGD has increased my aggression, inj adrol my pumps/fullness and caffeine for my drive and energy. Training could not be better (apart from not being able to squat, stiff leg deadlift, bent over row etc etc etc):o:D
 
Elvia1023 said:
I am taking a few things so in no way am I attributing my recent training to LGD but I have to say the combo I am using now is giving me the best workouts ever. LGD has increased my aggression, inj adrol my pumps/fullness and caffeine for my drive and energy. Training could not be better (apart from not being able to squat, stiff leg deadlift, bent over row etc etc etc):o:D
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I notice within an hour of taking S-4 my vascularity really comes out.
 
I ran this wonderful combo mid last year. Got really hard from 50mg and 10mg respectively. Had to cut out the s4 for a couple weeks then hop back on at a lower dose because of the yellow/green vision sides. Not saying it was the greatest stuff in the world but not too shabby either. Def would make a great bridge post pct if I ever decide to go back on.
 
alcatraz1662 said:
I ran this wonderful combo mid last year. Got really hard from 50mg and 10mg respectively. Had to cut out the s4 for a couple weeks then hop back on at a lower dose because of the yellow/green vision sides. Not saying it was the greatest stuff in the world but not too shabby either. Def would make a great bridge post pct if I ever decide to go back on.
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Glad to hear that. My cycle will incluce GW and MK-677. Should be just a bit better than "only" the two components.
 
Elvia1023 said:
What doses do you run for each?
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LGD 10 mg, 20 doesn't make a huge difference
s4 10 to 50 depending on sides, I get bad sides at 50, but they have always reversed in a week or so, 50 pre workouts 1xday only on workout days also works.
cjc 2mg per week split 1+1, 4 mg per week gives me headaches and water retention

same as above with the GF, no androgenic sides for her.
 
Anybody who's doing 50mg of S4, experiencing some vision side effects, and doesn't want to cut back much on their doses can also try doing 50 for 5 days, then take 2 days off each week.
 
George Spellwin said:
Anybody who's doing 50mg of S4, experiencing some vision side effects, and doesn't want to cut back much on their doses can also try doing 50 for 5 days, then take 2 days off each week.
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That's a great idea. I stick to 25ng S-4 now. There are no negative sides at that dose. When I ran 100mg everything was yellow and I could barely see while driving at night.
 
Thanks, and glad to hear that you're not having any more side effects at 25. I already have a little trouble driving at night, so I'd probably be driving in the other lane on 100mg of S4 lol.
 
George Spellwin said:
Anybody who's doing 50mg of S4, experiencing some vision side effects, and doesn't want to cut back much on their doses can also try doing 50 for 5 days, then take 2 days off each week.
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That is exactly what I ended up doing last year. To the T. :)
 
George Spellwin said:
Thanks, and glad to hear that you're not having any more side effects at 25. I already have a little trouble driving at night, so I'd probably be driving in the other lane on 100mg of S4 lol.
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To be honest. The sides didn't really bother me like AAS sides do. Green vision at night reminds me of my better days in the miltary doing night raids. #nightvision I adjusted because I didn't want it to be permanent.
 
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