can someone check this blood test pls

[bowly]

b12-1128 range 211-946
prl-50.9 range 4-15
e2--16.7 range 8-43
dhea-187 range 90-427
25 hydroxyl vit d--21 range 30 n more

high cholest/triglycri/hdl/ldl/vldl
sgpt-47.1 range 5-41

normal range--test/lh/fsh/shbg/thyroid/

have quarter of a pea size dot(semi hard) on the left nipple..mild painfull..no itching no discharge no tenderness at all..

can high cholesterol have caused this lump..or low vit d..or high prl..am confused?

on tamox for now..switching to ralox..don't want to take an ai as e2 is already low..can learned members give me a solution to this problem,as it happens only when I don't workout for a long period..

currently taking no supplements at all..

 

[badguysingh]

U on TRT or was on pct when u took da blood test cause test is pretty high ? whats ur stats??

 

[bowly]

test high?..have not mentioned it..its b12 that's high..testfree n total at normal range.

U on TRT or was on pct when u took da blood test cause test is pretty high ? whats ur stats??

 

[Zyglamail]

Why do people come here and ask for help and make us guess? I just dont get it. Why dont you tell us a little about your history? Have you cycled at all and if so what was it, what dose and for how long? How long have you been off?

Is "prl" prolactin I assume? Its crazy high

 

[stevesmi]

Why do people come here and ask for help and make us guess? I just dont get it. Why dont you tell us a little about your history? Have you cycled at all and if so what was it, what dose and for how long? How long have you been off?

Is "prl" prolactin I assume? Its crazy high

this was my thought too when I saw this thread and avoided it.

its like walking into the doctors office and putting duct tape on your mouth and asking the doc to guess what you are there for. you gotta help us help you

 

[bowly]

zyglmail appreciate ur reply

I have got two gynos in a yr despite being off aas for 1.9 yrs.

have cycled since 2009..test-tbol,eq-tbol,anavar/tbol,test solo.
got gyno after my first cycle when I abruptly stopped novedex-xt..

have got gynos repeating after that but not related to aas..it happens when I put on bf..my prl is high usually but not as high as to warrant an mri for tumours

adex,letro,exemestane has helped me get rid of it in the past..exemestane raloxifene being the best..

so after 21mths off aas how do I get 2 gynos..no supplements besides protein shake and vitamins..

test,lh,fsh,free test,thyroid,shbg,dhea all in mid range..except cholesterol which is out of whack..

can u find any reason linking the high bf.prl and cholesterol to cause this

Why do people come here and ask for help and make us guess? I just dont get it. Why dont you tell us a little about your history? Have you cycled at all and if so what was it, what dose and for how long? How long have you been off?

Is "prl" prolactin I assume? Its crazy high

 

[bowly]

stevesmi glad u responded..

pls tell me what details can I provide besides the ones that I mentioned to zyg.

QUOTE=stevesmi;17377523]this was my thought too when I saw this thread and avoided it.

its like walking into the doctors office and putting duct tape on your mouth and asking the doc to guess what you are there for. you gotta help us help you[/QUOTE]

 

[Zyglamail]

zyglmail appreciate ur reply

I have got two gynos in a yr despite being off aas for 1.9 yrs.

have cycled since 2009..test-tbol,eq-tbol,anavar/tbol,test solo.
got gyno after my first cycle when I abruptly stopped novedex-xt..

have got gynos repeating after that but not related to aas..it happens when I put on bf..my prl is high usually but not as high as to warrant an mri for tumours

adex,letro,exemestane has helped me get rid of it in the past..exemestane raloxifene being the best..

so after 21mths off aas how do I get 2 gynos..no supplements besides protein shake and vitamins..

test,lh,fsh,free test,thyroid,shbg,dhea all in mid range..except cholesterol which is out of whack..

can u find any reason linking the high bf.prl and cholesterol to cause this

High prolactin can cause gyno and the AI's you listed above wont do anything for it. Your prolactin levels are over 3x the max for men.

You seem to have a bunch of underlying nutritional deficiencies that are causing your whole system to go out of whack.

So, what are common causes of high prolactin in men?

Liver disease (cirrhosis), kidney disease, and hypothyroidism are the most common.

You sya you have high BF, why is that? It can be a result of an underfunctioning thyroid which in turn controls much of the rest of the body and could be affecting your pituitaty. Cholesterol rises for a few reasons, high carb diets, when the body is subjected to toxic stress (which can also cause fat gain by the way), when hormone levels are low and in response to nutritional deficiencies leading to cardiovascular disease where cholesterol is required to prevent arterial rupture.

Thyrdoid in the normal range doesnt mean much. You clearly have low vit D levels which may not be bad because your probably lacking the vit A and K to go with it.

My personal opinion is you should seem out an orthomolecular doc and start an in depth supplementation program to get your body working properly again.

 

[bowly]

hey zyg thanks for such a detailed response..indian docs would not have gone anywhere near to this response..

High prolactin can cause gyno and the AI's you listed above wont do anything for it. Your prolactin levels are over 3x the max for men.but don't prl gyno cause discharge,itching etc


You seem to have a bunch of underlying nutritional deficiencies that are causing your whole system to go out of whack.yes its possible
So, what are common causes of high prolactin in men?

Liver disease (cirrhosis)my sgpt was high, kidney disease, and hypothyroidism are the most common.

You sya you have high BF, why is that? It can be a result of an underfunctioning thyroid which in turn controls much of the rest of the body and could be affecting your pituitaty. Cholesterol rises for a few reasons, high carb diets, when the body is subjected to toxic stress (which can also cause fat gain by the way), when hormone levels are low and in response to nutritional deficiencies leading to cardiovascular disease where cholesterol is required to prevent arterial rupture.

Thyrdoid in the normal range doesnt mean much can u elaborate pls. You clearly have low vit D levels which may not be bad because your probably lacking the vit A and K to go with it.low vit d not bad? can u pls explain the vit a and k synthesis
My personal opinion is you should seem out an orthomolecular doc and start an in depth supplementation program to get your body working properly again.will find an orthomolecular doc,doubt we have one in Mumbai..can u suggest me a blood test to try n find out some answeres [/QUOTE]

 

[Zyglamail]

hey zyg thanks for such a detailed response..indian docs would not have gone anywhere near to this response..

High prolactin can cause gyno and the AI's you listed above wont do anything for it. Your prolactin levels are over 3x the max for men.but don't prl gyno cause discharge,itching etc


You seem to have a bunch of underlying nutritional deficiencies that are causing your whole system to go out of whack.yes its possible
So, what are common causes of high prolactin in men?

Liver disease (cirrhosis)my sgpt was high, kidney disease, and hypothyroidism are the most common.

You sya you have high BF, why is that? It can be a result of an underfunctioning thyroid which in turn controls much of the rest of the body and could be affecting your pituitaty. Cholesterol rises for a few reasons, high carb diets, when the body is subjected to toxic stress (which can also cause fat gain by the way), when hormone levels are low and in response to nutritional deficiencies leading to cardiovascular disease where cholesterol is required to prevent arterial rupture.

Thyrdoid in the normal range doesnt mean much can u elaborate pls. You clearly have low vit D levels which may not be bad because your probably lacking the vit A and K to go with it.low vit d not bad? can u pls explain the vit a and k synthesis
My personal opinion is you should seem out an orthomolecular doc and start an in depth supplementation program to get your body working properly again.will find an orthomolecular doc,doubt we have one in Mumbai..can u suggest me a blood test to try n find out some answeres

[/QUOTE]

prl gyno doesnt necessarily involve discharge or itching.

Halides like fluoride, bromide etc are all around us an inundate us with toxins. These halides displace iodine which is an essential nutrient for the production of thyroid hormones. An underfunctioning thyroid is one that is not function to 100% optimal capacity but yet is not functioning so poorly that lab range of T3 for example drops below range. a couple tenths of a pointin T3 hormone levels can have a drastic effect on mood, fat levels, muscle mass and overall how the rest of the body functions. Your T3 levels can be right in the middle of lab range but not be optimal. Think of it terms of natural test level, would you rather have 400 test of 600 test? Both are in lab range but I can gaurantee you will feel so much better at 600. The same holds true for thyroid function.

The D3 blood test is questionable in terms of real meaning and merit but the reason I said your low levels arent horrible is because if they were higher then you likely would have even more problems. Do I think you should raise D levels? Absolutely! BUT when you increase D intake you also increase the bodies need for magnesium. D can also have toxicity issue when not accompanied by proper amounts of vit A and vit K.

Based on your symptoms I think its pretty clear you could do a lot with proper supplementation. Something a typical doctor isnt going to be of much help with. Blood work is also going to be of somewhat limited value but in short if you want to do lab work get your mineral levels checked via RBC blood work and NOT serum blood work. Check for all the essential minerals you can.

Its a very complex and deep topic which is going to take time to address but if your dont have a doc in your area you will need to become your own nutritionist and scour the web reading everything you can.