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Hey dylang, have you ran a Test E and Tren cycle before? How where your lean mass gains? I was also looking into these too but my last PH cycle left gave me some serious gyno sides that scared the shit out of me? Would I be able to run Test E and Tren for a six week cycle or would they need to be run for a 10 or 16 week cycle? I want the fitness model look, not the mass look. My diet is own point and I have no problem cutting down or any of that I just want to had some more lean mass to my frame?
 
Hey dylang, have you ran a Test E and Tren cycle before? How where your lean mass gains? I was also looking into these too but my last PH cycle left gave me some serious gyno sides that scared the shit out of me? Would I be able to run Test E and Tren for a six week cycle or would they need to be run for a 10 or 16 week cycle? I want the fitness model look, not the mass look. My diet is own point and I have no problem cutting down or any of that I just want to had some more lean mass to my frame?

I dont go near tren bro... Cardio is far to important to me and tren will hurt it plus i dont need tren for what i want to accomplish and for what you want, you dont either... Primo is definitely what you want
 
Yea you should definitely have more than just a SERMS in your PCT. I like running SERMS and SARMS both -

run some clomid alongside some Sarmsserach OSTA with a natty test booster and a dermal AI and that will do much better for you. Some forged post cycle is great to throw in as well.
 
Hey dylang, have you ran a Test E and Tren cycle before? How where your lean mass gains? I was also looking into these too but my last PH cycle left gave me some serious gyno sides that scared the shit out of me? Would I be able to run Test E and Tren for a six week cycle or would they need to be run for a 10 or 16 week cycle? I want the fitness model look, not the mass look. My diet is own point and I have no problem cutting down or any of that I just want to had some more lean mass to my frame?

Especially not for a first cycle. Tren in all forms is VERY intense and can be really harmful if you fuck it up due to lack of experience.

I also wanted to thank you for actually being receptive to helpful critiquing and advice. So many guys on here come in thinking their ready to cycle with their crappy cycle all planned out and ask for advice but get offended when people try to help them out. Its pretty rare to find guys like yourself, don't lose that quality on this forum!
 
I dont go near tren bro... Cardio is far to important to me and tren will hurt it plus i dont need tren for what i want to accomplish and for what you want, you dont either... Primo is definitely what you want

Once again thanks man, I'll just stick to the Primo. Like you I love cardio and with my job I can't exactly get away with no doing cardio...military. So Primo it is and I'll use the PCT you recommended, expensive as shit ahaha but much rather spend the money to be safe then sorry!
 
Especially not for a first cycle. Tren in all forms is VERY intense and can be really harmful if you fuck it up due to lack of experience.

I also wanted to thank you for actually being receptive to helpful critiquing and advice. So many guys on here come in thinking their ready to cycle with their crappy cycle all planned out and ask for advice but get offended when people try to help them out. Its pretty rare to find guys like yourself, don't lose that quality on this forum!

Thanks for the input and advice man I appreciate it. Yea, there was no way I could come into here acting like I knew what I was talking about, this is a whole new scene to me and I just want to learn as much as I can before I make my final decision. So all the help and insight that I can get is more than appreciated. Unless your are a chemist or been doing this for awhile, no need to come in here like your shit doesn't stink. Once again thanks for the insight and help!
 
Thanks for the input and advice man I appreciate it. Yea, there was no way I could come into here acting like I knew what I was talking about, this is a whole new scene to me and I just want to learn as much as I can before I make my final decision. So all the help and insight that I can get is more than appreciated. Unless your are a chemist or been doing this for awhile, no need to come in here like your shit doesn't stink. Once again thanks for the insight and help!

Absolutely friend, you're 100% right - everyone here can learn something, even experienced users.

And with an attitude like that, you can expect plenty more help and insight to come your way. Good luck
 
So, for on cycle do I need to run any thing like n2guard or on cycle support with Primo and Test E

Should I just use all injectables or orals. I found primo oral but honestly just don't know if injectables or oral is better. I know orals can really mess with the liver but will Primo do the same?
 
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