NRA releases shooting app game.

[redsamurai]

NRA releases 'Practice Range' shooting app -- after blaming video games for violence - U.S. News


recommended for kids 4 and up. You just couldn't make that up if you wanted to.

 

[RickRock13]

LMAO! Do as I say, not as I do?

 

[redsamurai]

Complete tone deafness.

 

[training700]

That's awesome hahah

 

[gorillahung]

The NRA has become such a fringe group full of paranoid gun owners who all believe the constitution gives them the right to own any weapon they want.

 

[SpyWizard]

I'm still waiting for the executive order from barry that will reduce gun violence against our children, providing protection for our children, maybe not to the degree that his family gets, but more than a sign in the front of the school saying "no guns allowed"...

where's that executive order?? protection from the mentally ill??

or better yet,

the 211 kids that died?? where is that executive order??

In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.1
Of the 1,210 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2010, 211 (17%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.1

source cdc..
CDC - Impaired Driving Facts - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center

 

[redsamurai]

spy you have to admit equating the protection presidents and their children get to what the NRA thinks should be in schools is utterly ridiculously absurd. The presidents children get abducted and national security is at stake. The POTUS and his immediate family are the targets of terrorists and other nations that don't really like us. What the NRA doesn't understand is that it's not Obama that doesn't want schools to be military base's...it's the american people. I'm not saying it's a horrible idea to have one or two people on campus with a CCW, but it wouldn't have stopped Lanza from killing more than a couple kids before somebody got to him. Having people with CCW's on site is just a small piece of the puzzle. Serious gun regulation has to follow. I can't fathom how anybody with a serious thinking and analytical mind could be against requiring even private sales to require a background check. What is the point of even requiring a background check otherwise? It's just like in high school then where the kids try to find someone 21 and over to buy them alcohol.

I'm still waiting for the executive order from barry that will reduce gun violence against our children, providing protection for our children, maybe not to the degree that his family gets, but more than a sign in the front of the school saying "no guns allowed"...

where's that executive order?? protection from the mentally ill??

or better yet,

the 211 kids that died?? where is that executive order??

In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.1
Of the 1,210 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2010, 211 (17%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.1

source cdc..
CDC - Impaired Driving Facts - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center

 

[bigbassturd]

spy you have to admit equating the protection presidents and their children get to what the NRA thinks should be in schools is utterly ridiculously absurd. The presidents children get abducted and national security is at stake.

so it's a national crisis when his kids get taken, but if someone abducted my children and sent a message saying they'd release them if we met the terms of their conditions, how the fuck is that different?

He is a fucking citizen who happens to be elected head dick, for now. His family is no more important than mine. Fuck his children.

 

[zwhit]

spy you have to admit equating the protection presidents and their children get to what the NRA thinks should be in schools is utterly ridiculously absurd. The presidents children get abducted and national security is at stake. The POTUS and his immediate family are the targets of terrorists and other nations that don't really like us. What the NRA doesn't understand is that it's not Obama that doesn't want schools to be military base's...it's the american people. I'm not saying it's a horrible idea to have one or two people on campus with a CCW, but it wouldn't have stopped Lanza from killing more than a couple kids before somebody got to him. Having people with CCW's on site is just a small piece of the puzzle. Serious gun regulation has to follow. I can't fathom how anybody with a serious thinking and analytical mind could be against requiring even private sales to require a background check. What is the point of even requiring a background check otherwise? It's just like in high school then where the kids try to find someone 21 and over to buy them alcohol.

Ok, I could possibly give up that much. But how is that going to be enforced? Are these background checks going into any kind of database? Do you think that is going to somehow keep criminals from obtaining a firearm?

 

[pin]

Do you guys think its wrong for me to teach my kids gun safety in our shooting range in my back yard?

 

[zwhit]

Do you guys think its wrong for me to teach my kids gun safety in our shooting range in my back yard?

Hell no. I guess redsamurai does though since he thinks this app is so ridiculous

 

[pin]

Hell no. I guess redsamurai does though since he thinks this app is so ridiculous

Exactly. They released it to counter the blood and gore games with a range shooting game. But you must try to understand the liberal mind. Logic has no place in liberal/socialist thinking. If anyone disagrees with their political messiah, its an automatic kneejerk reaction to think its wrong.

Its like saying Duck Hunt is a really horrible game.

Oh how horrible.

 

[redsamurai]

so it's a national crisis when his kids get taken, but if someone abducted my children and sent a message saying they'd release them if we met the terms of their conditions, how the fuck is that different?

He is a fucking citizen who happens to be elected head dick, for now. His family is no more important than mine. Fuck his children.

you're not thinking this through. It's not that his kids are more important than yours, it's the ramifications to our country as a whole. I'm sorry but the overall ramifications to our country if your kids get abducted "pale" in comparison to his kids. That's not saying it's any less terrible but facts are facts. And if Bush was in office and we were talking about his daughters you probably wouldn't have made this post. This isn't about "who" is in office.

But if we're going to continue your line of logic, why even protect the president then right? So when the next republican president comes to office will you remain steady in your conviction? Fucke that ngr and his family too?

 

[redsamurai]

Do you guys think its wrong for me to teach my kids gun safety in our shooting range in my back yard?

of course not. Making a phone app for 4 yr olds in which they are simulating shooting weapons is the stage gate to playing the very same "violent video games" that La Pierre solely blamed on increased gun violence. It's retarded to make that claim and then provide a video game meant for 4 year olds which sets the stage for them to play first person shooters later on. It's not the app I have a problem with, it's a stupid little non sensical program that kids will probably tinker around with for 5 minutes before they yawn and say "this sucks". If my 4 year old really wanted to play this retarded little drivel I wouldn't care because I would have no plans on denying my kid playing FPS's later on....albeit with some parental guidance obviously. I wouldn't let my kids play stuff like GTA or the like where you get to make sweet calls like do I rape and kill this hooker or not? Those I have a problem with.

 

[pin]

Why does the prez and congress get their own special health care, get to vote for pay raises for themselves, and get special protection and health care for their families? I thought they were our equals. Chosen by the people from among the people to represent and serve the people. Nope, not anymore. They are a bunch of ruling elites that want only them to have guns. Obama doesn't give two shitz about the sandy hook kids, and you're nieve if you think he does. This is just a golden opportunity to push his socialist agenda.

 

[wootoom]

Fuck off

 

[pin]

of course not. Making a phone app for 4 yr olds in which they are simulating shooting weapons is the stage gate to playing the very same "violent video games" that La Pierre solely blamed on increased gun violence. It's retarded to make that claim and then provide a video game meant for 4 year olds which sets the stage for them to play first person shooters later on. It's not the app I have a problem with, it's a stupid little non sensical program that kids will probably tinker around with for 5 minutes before they yawn and say "this sucks". If my 4 year old really wanted to play this retarded little drivel I wouldn't care because I would have no plans on denying my kid playing FPS's later on....albeit with some parental guidance obviously. I wouldn't let my kids play stuff like GTA or the like where you get to make sweet calls like do I rape and kill this hooker or not? Those I have a problem with.

That is exactly my point. "Shooting" games themselves are not the problem. I play duck hunt with my 3 year old on wii. So criticizing this game is silly imo.

 

[redsamurai]

Ok, I could possibly give up that much. But how is that going to be enforced? Are these background checks going into any kind of database? Do you think that is going to somehow keep criminals from obtaining a firearm?

Well the way alot of these inner cities at least get this constant influx firearms is guys going around snapping up private sales and then reselling them to gang bangers with severe markups. So yeah I think if some guy gets caught doing this and spends time in jail, he shouldn't ever be able to buy a gun again no matter what. But the way things are now that guy can spend time in jail and then get right back to business upon getting out. It doesn't completely solve the problem, nothing will.

 

[pin]

Well the way alot of these inner cities at least get this constant influx firearms is guys going around snapping up private sales and then reselling them to gang bangers with severe markups. So yeah I think if some guy gets caught doing this and spends time in jail, he shouldn't ever be able to buy a gun again no matter what. But the way things are now that guy can spend time in jail and then get right back to business upon getting out. It doesn't completely solve the problem, nothing will.

So, a bazillion tons of cocain make it across our borders every year. You think that somehow they'll stop guns? It'll just create a new underground market.

 

[mrplunkey]

Background checks on private gun sales are an outstanding idea.

I'm guessing it will take a few days after the rule is enacted for private industry to figure-out how to screen potential (and current) employees for mental health issues using that feature. That will be a real cost-saver, because then they can avoid employing people who will run-up their health care bills. Then we can dump those guys into a high-risk pool and let taxpayers pay for them.

Oh, and if you're depressed, anxious, insomiac, etc. etc., you probably should avoid treatment. Otherwise it may appear in your medical record and someone will help themselves to your mental health history under the guise of a "firearms background check".

Good times.

 

[bigbassturd]

you're not thinking this through. It's not that his kids are more important than yours, it's the ramifications to our country as a whole. I'm sorry but the overall ramifications to our country if your kids get abducted "pale" in comparison to his kids. That's not saying it's any less terrible but facts are facts. And if Bush was in office and we were talking about his daughters you probably wouldn't have made this post. This isn't about "who" is in office.

But if we're going to continue your line of logic, why even protect the president then right? So when the next republican president comes to office will you remain steady in your conviction? Fucke that ngr and his family too?

I'd say fuck anyone who thinks their family is more important than my own. We didn't elect his fucking kids. They're just another civilian's kids. He's a civilian with a high paying federal job, not a king. I'm not exactly left or right, doesn't matter to me who the fuck is in office. To tell me it's a matter of national security if someone's kids get fucked with, but just a sad day if mine do, that's total bullshit.

 

[pin]

i'd say fuck anyone who thinks their family is more important than my own. We didn't elect his fucking kids. They're just another civilian's kids. He's a civilian with a high paying federal job, not a king. I'm not exactly left or right, doesn't matter to me who the fuck is in office. To tell me it's a matter of national security if someone's kids get fucked with, but just a sad day if mine do, that's total bullshit.

+1!

 

[mrplunkey]

Oh, and if you think that's just paranoia, it was the #2 executive order he signed yesterday.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system

HIPAA is what makes your medical information private. He's waiving HIPAA so mental health information is dumped into the background check system.

But I'm sure hillbilly Bob at the Harlin Kentucky gun swap would neeeeeeeever run a background check on some random joe for any other reason than to sell him a firearm.

 

[billfred]

I'd say fuck anyone who thinks their family is more important than my own. We didn't elect his fucking kids. They're just another civilian's kids. He's a civilian with a high paying federal job, not a king. I'm not exactly left or right, doesn't matter to me who the fuck is in office. To tell me it's a matter of national security if someone's kids get fucked with, but just a sad day if mine do, that's total bullshit.

His kids are in danger as a result of him taking the job of Presidency. In that regard, the country owes security to his family.

You would expect the same if you were put in that situation. For example, I moved to West Africa to work for my company. I expected my company to provide me a security guard at my house and they did. Why? Because my family was under extra danger as a result of me moving to Africa to do my job.

Tis the same. Stop being a dick as I know you are not one in real life.

 

[bigbassturd]

His kids are in danger as a result of him taking the job of Presidency. In that regard, the country owes security to his family.

You would expect the same if you were put in that situation. For example, I moved to West Africa to work for my company. I expected my company to provide me a security guard at my house and they did. Why? Because my family was under extra danger as a result of me moving to Africa to do my job.

Tis the same. Stop being a dick as I know you are not one in real life.

So does every family living in a city with high crime rate deserve security? Their children are at risk every day.

You're taking my meaning to be that the children of the president do not need protection. That's not what I'm saying. I am saying everyone's children need protecting, and to tell me that the protection of someone else's kids is more important than mine just because of the job they hold is completely stupid.

 

[zwhit]

Well the way alot of these inner cities at least get this constant influx firearms is guys going around snapping up private sales and then reselling them to gang bangers with severe markups. So yeah I think if some guy gets caught doing this and spends time in jail, he shouldn't ever be able to buy a gun again no matter what. But the way things are now that guy can spend time in jail and then get right back to business upon getting out. It doesn't completely solve the problem, nothing will.

So you think a significant number of guns used in crimes are being bought legally through private sales between law abiding citizens and then being sold to gang bangers? You can't be serious.

Oh but what about the assault weapons ban? What happened last time that was in effect? Any drop in any gun violence or crime rate? But ok, let's limit the rounds per magazine to 10 rounds or less. But first get back with me on how many rounds are used in the overwhelming majority of gun crimes.

 

[mrplunkey]

So you think a significant number of guns used in crimes are being bought legally through private sales between law abiding citizens and then being sold to gang bangers? You can't be serious.

Oh but what about the assault weapons ban? What happened last time that was in effect? Any drop in any gun violence or crime rate? But ok, let's limit the rounds per magazine to 10 rounds or less. But first get back with me on how many rounds are used in the overwhelming majority of gun crimes.

Someone should claim Redsam is trying to buy a gun from them and do a background check on him to see if he's got mental issues.

 

[zwhit]

Someone should claim Redsam is trying to buy a gun from them and do a background check on him to see if he's got mental issues.

Or anyone else who thinks these gun laws are going to have any significant effect on gun crime. He hasn't told me yet how they're planning on enforcing these background checks between private individuals. Or how limiting the number of rounds per magazine will make a single difference. Looks to me like the dems and Mr.Obama are capitalizing on the emotional response from Newtown to push their agenda instead of passing any logical legislation.

 

[pin]

Or anyone else who thinks these gun laws are going to have any significant effect on gun crime. He hasn't told me yet how they're planning on enforcing these background checks between private individuals. Or how limiting the number of rounds per magazine will make a single difference. Looks to me like the dems and Mr.Obama are capitalizing on the emotional response from Newtown to push their agenda instead of passing any logical legislation.

So the new American SS will have the edge. Zig hail bishes!

 

[bigbassturd]

Looks to me like the dems and Mr.Obama are capitalizing on the emotional response from Newtown to push their agenda instead of passing any logical legislation.

EXACTLY what I have been screaming since this whole ordeal started, except I probably use the F word a little more

 

[redsamurai]

ok dude take a xannie we're talking about criminal history and/or serious mental health disorders. Say, those teachers that will be packing in your kids school....would you be cool with them being on serious anti depressants? You know the kind of meds that have a 2% chance of making the person flip out and harm themselves or others...? Does that sound like good times?

Background checks on private gun sales are an outstanding idea.

I'm guessing it will take a few days after the rule is enacted for private industry to figure-out how to screen potential (and current) employees for mental health issues using that feature. That will be a real cost-saver, because then they can avoid employing people who will run-up their health care bills. Then we can dump those guys into a high-risk pool and let taxpayers pay for them.

Oh, and if you're depressed, anxious, insomiac, etc. etc., you probably should avoid treatment. Otherwise it may appear in your medical record and someone will help themselves to your mental health history under the guise of a "firearms background check".

Good times.

 

[redsamurai]

Why does the prez and congress get their own special health care, get to vote for pay raises for themselves, and get special protection and health care.

everything but the special protection is bullshit I'm in complete agreement. But you have to have the secret service you realize this yes? Otherwise the president of the U.S could never leave the country maybe not even the city of D.C. This isn't the 1800's when presidents used to hop the trains back to their home states for the weekend.

 

[redsamurai]

So you think a significant number of guns used in crimes are being bought legally through private sales between law abiding citizens and then being sold to gang bangers? You can't be serious.

Oh but what about the assault weapons ban? What happened last time that was in effect? Any drop in any gun violence or crime rate? But ok, let's limit the rounds per magazine to 10 rounds or less. But first get back with me on how many rounds are used in the overwhelming majority of gun crimes.

There was a republican and a dem mayor on tv a few weeks ago who were saying this is exactly what they're police depts are telling them of how guns get into the cities at the rate they do. People figured out you can make a fortune buying guns on the private market and selling them in the cities. If you were to buy this volume in gun shops it would raise eyebrows. Not sure how they would enforce this, I don't have the answer but c'mon dude...private sales are kind of wild. You have no idea who walks into these gun shows....i mean we just have to draw a line somewhere. Otherwise there's no point to any laws whatsoever.

 

[redsamurai]

I'd say fuck anyone who thinks their family is more important than my own. We didn't elect his fucking kids. They're just another civilian's kids. He's a civilian with a high paying federal job, not a king. I'm not exactly left or right, doesn't matter to me who the fuck is in office. To tell me it's a matter of national security if someone's kids get fucked with, but just a sad day if mine do, that's total bullshit.

nobody is saying his kids are more important than yours dude, relax. But please explain to me how you don't understand the potential national security issues that could arise from a POTUS's children being abducted.

 

[zwhit]

There was a republican and a dem mayor on tv a few weeks ago who were saying this is exactly what they're police depts are telling them of how guns get into the cities at the rate they do. People figured out you can make a fortune buying guns on the private market and selling them in the cities. If you were to buy this volume in gun shops it would raise eyebrows. Not sure how they would enforce this, I don't have the answer but c'mon dude...private sales are kind of wild. You have no idea who walks into these gun shows....i mean we just have to draw a line somewhere. Otherwise there's no point to any laws whatsoever.

Vendors at gun shows are required to run background checks already. And you're saying there's a huge market for guns in the streets of inner cities and they're paying big money for these guns? I was under the impression that guns being sold illegally on the street were cheap. No one in their right mind would take a gun and sell it in the inner city to try to turn a profit.

 

[mrplunkey]

There was a republican and a dem mayor on tv a few weeks ago who were saying this is exactly what they're police depts are telling them of how guns get into the cities at the rate they do. People figured out you can make a fortune buying guns on the private market and selling them in the cities. If you were to buy this volume in gun shops it would raise eyebrows. Not sure how they would enforce this, I don't have the answer but c'mon dude...private sales are kind of wild. You have no idea who walks into these gun shows....i mean we just have to draw a line somewhere. Otherwise there's no point to any laws whatsoever.

Oh, you mean in cities where that's already illegal to own guns like those such as Washington DC and Chicago? Those laws are working great.

I have an idea! Let's make pot, coke and heroin illegal in those cities too and then they'll be drug free.

 

[mrplunkey]

ok dude take a xannie we're talking about criminal history and/or serious mental health disorders. Say, those teachers that will be packing in your kids school....would you be cool with them being on serious anti depressants? You know the kind of meds that have a 2% chance of making the person flip out and harm themselves or others...? Does that sound like good times?

Yeah, we'll just make two categories of mental illness: Mildly crazy and seriously crazy. Then we can make two types of medication too! I bet no one in the mildly crazy category taking mildly crazy medication would ever harm anyone

You have absolutely no idea how diagnosis and treatment of medical conditions are done.

And of course I wouldn't take a xannie now. That would make it into my medical record and any random joe could claim I'm buying a gun and see it.

Good times.

 

[cindylou]

ok dude take a xannie we're talking about criminal history and/or serious mental health disorders. Say, those teachers that will be packing in your kids school....would you be cool with them being on serious anti depressants? You know the kind of meds that have a 2% chance of making the person flip out and harm themselves or others...? Does that sound like good times?

Luvox was what was Eric Harris was scripted and what they say caused him to flip out. Would you be uncomfortable with a teacher that was scripted Luvox? They script that for everyone with mild OCD and social anxiety. It's like a xanax it just lasts longer. Do you have any idea how many people you are talking about?

 

[mrplunkey]

Luvox was what was Eric Harris was scripted and what they say caused him to flip out. Would you be uncomfortable with a teacher that was scripted Luvox? They script that for everyone with mild OCD and social anxiety. It's like a xanax it just lasts longer. Do you have any idea how many people you are talking about?

I'm sure our wise, insightful government could easily design algorithms that would tease apart Eric Harris' medical records and realize that he was a threat to society.



Maybe we should have a "mental health threat registry" where every doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, school councilor, etc. etc. would be legally required to register anyone they deemed to be a mental health threat.

This is, after all, for the children. What could possibly be more important than that?

 

[bigbassturd]

Yes, of course it's for the children, just ask Barry he'll tell you

 

[bigbassturd]

How about this fun fact: all veterans who have served in an active war zone are allowed a certain percentage on their VA claims automatically due to PTSD.

So guess who has PTSD on their VA records? Me.

Guess who clearly doesn't give a fuck about people he killed in combat halfway around the world, and does not lose a wink of sleep over it, meaning he has no symptoms of PTSD? Me.

You gonna register EVERY combat veteran as having a mental condition and bar them from legally obtaining a firearm? Fuck off.

 

[smurf2]

Oh look, more gun talk

 

[mrplunkey]

How about this fun fact: all veterans who have served in an active war zone are allowed a certain percentage on their VA claims automatically due to PTSD.

So guess who has PTSD on their VA records? Me.

Guess who clearly doesn't give a fuck about people he killed in combat halfway around the world, and does not lose a wink of sleep over it, meaning he has no symptoms of PTSD? Me.

You gonna register EVERY combat veteran as having a mental condition and bar them from legally obtaining a firearm? Fuck off.

That's the beauty of what Barry just did via executive order. He doesn't need you to register since his agencies can now get at that information anyway.

Up until last week, your medical information would have been protected by a law called HIPAA (Health Information Portability and Accountability Act). Barry just waived portions of it via executive order so federal agencies can use it as part of the enhanced background checks.

So yes, someone could claim they're about to sell you a gun and your PTSD would most likely show-up on the background check in one form or another.

 

[mrplunkey]

Oh, and how will they get those health records electronically?

Obamacare specifically calls for subsidies for electronic medical record implementation and financial penalties for institutions that don't implement them.

It also calls for these records to be submitted to the department of health and human services for analysis.

So all the pieces are in place. He's managed to use executive orders to interconnect existing laws that basically make anyone's mental health information available.

Good times.

 

[bigbassturd]

If that bars me from buying a firearm I'll give them reason to claim I have PTSD for real.

 

[miplank]

wtf is going on in here

 

[redsamurai]

Ok i'll admit that plunkey brings up a fairpoint with the HIPAA waiver, that doesn't pass the smell test if any potential private seller has access to those records. I was under the impression though you would have to pass the sale by a govt agency and they would do the check and tell you whether it was cool or not. And I agree every returning vet has PTSD but if one of em was evaluated by the military as having severe PTSD where he's not sure from one day to the next whether he's still in a war zone or not after he's been literally discharged....how do we want a guy like that buying guns? Didn't one of those guys walk down a couple cops a couple years ago with an assault rifle?

 

[bigbassturd]

PTSD doesn't have 'levels of severity'

I allegedly have it just as bad as some of these assholes shooting at people in their neighborhoods.

 

[miplank]

PTSD doesn't have 'levels of severity'

I allegedly have it just as bad as some of these assholes shooting at people in their neighborhoods.

you have dick

 

[bigbassturd]

you have dick

like a fruitbat

 

[redsamurai]

PTSD doesn't have 'levels of severity'

I allegedly have it just as bad as some of these assholes shooting at people in their neighborhoods.

that sux dude i'm sorry to hear that. I thought they at least made an "attempt" to differentiate the mild from the bad cases. So are they saying that all returning vets are scratched off the list from owning guns? Or is it just for CCW permits?

 

[bigbassturd]

It depends on what they're going to consider mental health issues to be.

As of right now it's so ridiculously vague that all we can do is assume and prepare...nothing specific has been stated about how they'll enforce these policies and what exactly will stop you from buying a gun.

I'm also wondering, if they make an individual seller use some form of a gov agency to run the check, who's going to pay for that, and will there be a tax on the sale?

Waaaay too many questions here need answering before we can really get pissed about it, but from what I have seen out of our current administration, I have zero faith that they will instate a functional system...

 

[mrplunkey]

Ok i'll admit that plunkey brings up a fairpoint with the HIPAA waiver, that doesn't pass the smell test if any potential private seller has access to those records. I was under the impression though you would have to pass the sale by a govt agency and they would do the check and tell you whether it was cool or not. And I agree every returning vet has PTSD but if one of em was evaluated by the military as having severe PTSD where he's not sure from one day to the next whether he's still in a war zone or not after he's been literally discharged....how do we want a guy like that buying guns? Didn't one of those guys walk down a couple cops a couple years ago with an assault rifle?

It boggles my mind that people keep shoveling these people money and power at an out-of-control rate.

And let's make one other thing perfectly clear: The politically well-connected and the wealthy will be able to bypass all these wonderful "protections" that are being afforded us right now. So all this meaningless regulatory garbage and cost is going to fall squarely on the shoulders of the middle class and the poor.

People are going to get exactly what they deserve. The system is working as intended.

 

[jackangel]

things i've learned in this thread:

1. bigbastard is angry and should have his guns taken away.
2. bigbastard's kids are still important, but slightly less than obama's kids.
3. smurfy still has big totters.
4. no matter what legislation is proposed or passed, there are nefarious consequences which kill any merit it might have.

 

[zwhit]

things i've learned in this thread:

1. bigbastard is angry and should have his guns taken away.
2. bigbastard's kids are still important, but slightly less than obama's kids.
3. smurfy still has big totters.
4. no matter what legislation is proposed or passed, there are nefarious consequences which kill any merit it might have.

What merit did it have to begin with?

 

[pin]

everything but the special protection is bullshit I'm in complete agreement. But you have to have the secret service you realize this yes? Otherwise the president of the U.S could never leave the country maybe not even the city of D.C. This isn't the 1800's when presidents used to hop the trains back to their home states for the weekend.

Guess we'll just agree to disagree. My family is just as entitled to protection from whomever I feel they need protection from. Irregardless of my job.

 

[redsamurai]

Guess we'll just agree to disagree. My family is just as entitled to protection from whomever I feel they need protection from. Irregardless of my job.

You don't get it dude...the people of the U.S are drawing the line at schools being armed camps. And I agree to an extent. Is it a horrible idea for a couple teachers to maybe have a CCW...maybe maybe not, I'm still on the fence. But to say we can't touch guns it's just better to make schools into marine barracks...that's just ridiculous.

 

[pin]

Really? Barry's kids school is safe with armed cops in it. Somehow others won't be? Doesn't matter. I'll never give up my guns. And I'll buy 'em off the street if I have to. Barry's legislation, if you can call it that, will just turn me into a criminal. Along with hundreds of thousands if not millions of others.

 

[redsamurai]

Really? Barry's kids school is safe with armed cops in it. Somehow others won't be? Doesn't matter. I'll never give up my guns. And I'll buy 'em off the street if I have to. Barry's legislation, if you can call it that, will just turn me into a criminal. Along with hundreds of thousands if not millions of others.

The people that would potentially be going after Barry's kids are not delusional psycho's who learned their tactics by playing call of duty. You do intrinsically understand this yes?

 

[pin]

The people that would potentially be going after Barry's kids are not delusional psycho's who learned their tactics by playing call of duty. You do intrinsically understand this yes?

I'm not talking about the video game. I'm talking about "gun control". And as far as I know, all presidential assasinations were carried out by delusional psychos. And all school shootings were carried out by delusional psychos, who don't give 2 shits about gun control. And as long as you can find a crack rock on the street, you'll be able to find a gun on the street.

And I don't give a crap about Barry's kids because they are safe. Because they are protected by armed men. I care about my kids. And Barry doesn't give a fuck about my kids. Everything he's done proves that.

 

[mrplunkey]

things i've learned in this thread:

1. bigbastard is angry and should have his guns taken away.
2. bigbastard's kids are still important, but slightly less than obama's kids.
3. smurfy still has big totters.
4. no matter what legislation is proposed or passed, there are nefarious consequences which kill any merit it might have.

This.

Here's a quick synopsis of how the new laws/orders will work:

1) The politically well-connected and the rich will ignore it.

He waved an illegal clip in front of 15M+ viewers and they've already decided he won't be charged. Do you think some black gang-banger is going to get away with that?

2) The middle class will be annoyed and somewhat freaked out. It will be a boon for gun sales and will probably turn a few million Americans into criminals (technically speaking... they won't commit real crimes).

3) The poor (especially minorities) will feel the full brunt of the laws/orders. These laws will open-up all new fun and exciting ways to put poor people in prison.

Isn't it ironic that the same liberals who claim to protect the poor get so excited about a fun new program to put poor people in jail?

 

[bigbassturd]

You don't get it dude...the people of the U.S are drawing the line at schools being armed camps. And I agree to an extent. Is it a horrible idea for a couple teachers to maybe have a CCW...maybe maybe not, I'm still on the fence. But to say we can't touch guns it's just better to make schools into marine barracks...that's just ridiculous.

the American public actually supports arming schools by a 2:1 consensus....just saying

 

[redsamurai]

the American public actually supports arming schools by a 2:1 consensus....just saying

you got a link for that?

 

[bigbassturd]

I have several, here's one real quick since i'm kinda busy atm
http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff...-own-poll-showing-74-percent-support-armed-gu

 

[redsamurai]

I have several, here's one real quick since i'm kinda busy atm
CBS Evening News Ignores Own Poll Showing 74 Percent Support Armed Guards in School | NewsBusters

yeah i couldn't find anything credible. About your link though, did you catch that the poll was about "public places"? The poll does not distinguish between people that would approve of armed guards in malls and movie theatres but not in schools. You have to hvae a poll that explicitly specifies do you want armed guards walking around your preschool? And the other thing you're not taking into account is that some people may support it as a last resort but would rather try some forms of gun control first. The amount of people in this country who want armed guards in schools but zero effort on gun control is relegated to NRA memberships....and not even all NRA members are onboard.