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Epistane 60 now being sold on NTBM, NOT for softcore users.. 21+ men only

Gorilla-Pharma said:
Couldn't agree more. Quality lean mass....Gym muscle endurance is also above par with Epi.
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True. I ordered and started epi only @ 60 mg/day as soon as that stuff landed in my mailbox. Probably prematurely, but it was what I was looking for at the right time.

I'm two weeks in:

+3 lbs -1.% bf. Slightly more vascular, good pumps but not crippling. Hunger is up. Not a single side to report EXCEPT my joints are a little dry. Its not slowing me down in the gym or causing pain during lifts, but I can feel it in the morning after not moving all night. Small price to pay to dry out and have more muscle poking through the skin. I'm prone to joint issues though so keep that in mind. Lifts up, and endurance up.

I'm happy with results so far. I'm hoping the next two weeks accelerate. I'm dosing first thing in the morning, the pre and post workout. I was in a 5x5 routine but I'm going to go back to my isolation/cardio routine and see how it does on a calorie deficit.
 
It will accelerate, but good going this far. Gaining 3 lbs while losing 1% bodyfat in two weeks is hardcore. That's why all gains with Epi are good clean keepable gains.....not like superdrol where ya gain 15lbs and must is water and shit. What is your calorie intake?




digit0x said:
True. I ordered and started epi only @ 60 mg/day as soon as that stuff landed in my mailbox. Probably prematurely, but Finaplix-H Cartridge (10 dose) it was what I was looking for at the right time.

I'm two weeks in:

+3 lbs -1.% bf. Slightly more vascular, good pumps but not crippling. Hunger is up. Not a single side to report EXCEPT my joints are a little dry. Its not slowing me down in the gym or causing pain during lifts, but I can feel it in the morning after not moving all night. Small price to pay to dry out and have more muscle poking through the skin. I'm prone to joint issues though so keep that in mind. Lifts up, and endurance up.

I'm happy with results so far. I'm hoping the next two weeks accelerate. I'm dosing first thing in the morning, the pre and post workout. I was in a 5x5 routine but I'm going to go back to my isolation/cardio routine and see how it does on a calorie deficit.
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digit0x said:
True. I ordered and started epi only @ 60 mg/day as soon as that stuff landed in my mailbox. Probably prematurely, but it was what I was looking for at the right time.

I'm two weeks in:

+3 lbs -1.% bf. Slightly more vascular, good pumps but not crippling. Hunger is up. Not a single side to report EXCEPT my joints are a little dry. Its not slowing me down in the gym or causing pain during lifts, but I can feel it in the morning after not moving all night. Small price to pay to dry out and have more muscle poking through the skin. I'm prone to joint issues though so keep that in mind. Lifts up, and endurance up.

I'm happy with results so far. I'm hoping the next two weeks accelerate. I'm dosing first thing in the morning, the pre and post workout. I was in a 5x5 routine but I'm going to go back to my isolation/cardio routine and see how it does on a calorie deficit.
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impressive results with epi.. anytime you gain mass and lose fat at the same time thats good shit.
 
Good job bro, epi is definitely a great recomp product. I think the strength gains are better than tbol but the lean size is similar
 
Hi everybody,

I'm interested in running a cycle of Epistane 60 but not sure how I should run it. I've run a 6wk cycle of DMZ suspension which is a Sdrol clone and saw some good results, about 15lbs of lean mass. I'm 29 years old, 6'3 240 and about 16-18% BF. I would like to put on another 15-20lbs of lean mass and drop my BF to 10-12%. I know its what everyone wants (drop in BF% but increase in muscle mass). My questions to you experts and veterans of the sport on here is what should my on cycle supps include and PCT include? Also at what dosage. I've been reading about N2Slin and was wondering would if be ok to run this while on Epistane? I've been lifting on and off for about 12 years since high school football and recently have been taking bodybuilding pretty serious. I would appreciate any advice from you guys on this before I buy some. Thanks .
 
Be@stm0de said:
Hi everybody,

I'm interested in running a cycle of Epistane 60 but not sure how I should run it. I've run a 6wk cycle of DMZ suspension which is a Sdrol clone and saw some good results, about 15lbs of lean mass. I'm 29 years old, 6'3 240 and about 16-18% BF. I would like to put on another 15-20lbs of lean mass and drop my BF to 10-12%. I know its what everyone wants (drop in BF% but increase in muscle mass). My questions to you experts and veterans of the sport on here is what should my on cycle supps include and PCT include? Also at what dosage. I've been reading about N2Slin and was wondering would if be ok to run this while on Epistane? I've been lifting on and off for about 12 years since high school football and recently have been taking bodybuilding pretty serious. I would appreciate any advice from you guys on this before I buy some. Thanks .
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If I were you I would dial in my diet/nutrition, you can use Epi to help you retain muscle and cut at the same time...it is all about your nutrition bro, it really starts in your kitchen!

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muscleaddiction said:
If I were you I would dial in my diet/nutrition, you can use Epi to help you retain muscle and cut at the same time...it is all about your nutrition bro, it really starts in your kitchen!

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I know your definitely right about nutrition. I think that's a big part of my problem and I'm working on fixing that. But on the topic of using Epi; what's the best way to use it to keep the gains as well as stay lean? Or do you recommend something else. I travel a lot for work so I want to stick with something that is airport friendly. Thanks.
 
I'm excited to get my bottle!

I am leaving the country for the caribbean in November so I will have exactly 6 weeks to use this stuff up. My question is, is Post Cycle/Unleashed a good enough PCT? I should be able to take those with me.

OR

Do you think it is a bad idea to use it right up until I leave? Of course, I want to be at my peak for the beach!
 
Gamut said:
I'm excited to get my bottle!

I am leaving the country for the caribbean in November so I will have exactly 6 weeks to use this stuff up. My question is, is Post Cycle/Unleashed a good enough PCT? I should be able to take those with me.

OR

Do you think it is a bad idea to use it right up until I leave? Of course, I want to be at my peak for the beach!
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The epi will definitely have you in top shape at the beach. Im not sure if your allowed to take supps with you so you may wanna check first before you try.

NTBM REP
 
Idk if the ntbm site is just screwed up on my phone, but can't get any info or write ups on the new tren or epi max. Anybody got any write up?
 
biesel13 said:
Idk if the ntbm site is just screwed up on my phone, but can't get any info or write ups on the new tren or epi max. Anybody got any write up?
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19-norandrostenediol Information

It was only allowed to be sold in the United States after new legislation made it legal to sell it as a nutritional supplement, along with DHEA, androstenedione, and others. 19-diol is a long-acting and potent muscle builder that produces rapid recovery.

2. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

19-diol latches onto steroid receptors longer than testosterone does. It is frequently preferred over testosterones because it does not have as many androgenic side effects, such as increased body hair growth, deepened voice, and male pattern baldness. Studies show that one can sustain nortestosterone levels for up to ten times longer with 19-diol versus some previous products that enhanced testosterone levels. It is also expected to convert to nandrolone at a rate three times greater than norandrostendione. Nandrolene does not convert to testosterone as androstenedione does. What does all this mean?Basically, 19-norandrostendiol has been reported to increase strength, initiate rapid and massive muscle growth, and allow for faster recovery after working out. It is so new that no human studies exist yet.

3. Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?

Bodybuilders, athletes, weight-trainers, and those who work out off and on could benefit from the positive effects attributed to 19-norandrostenediol. Since 19-diol is not an essential nutrient, deficiency is not associated with it.

4. How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?

Most athletes who supplement with 19-norandrostenediol consume between 100 and 200 mg per day. Usually they take it in one large dose 45 minutes before working out or training with a large glass of water. Do not exceed the recommended dose. Pregnant or lactating women should not take 19-diol, nor should individuals with an enlarged prostate. If you have a medical condition, consult your physician before supplementing with 19-diol.

Target Hormone: 19Nortestosterone (nandrolone) Molecular name of target hormone: 17ß-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one Target conversion: High (15.76 %) Conversion enzyme: 3-ß-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3HSD) DHT conversion: none Estrogenic effects: none

The advantages include no estrogen or DHT prior to conversion on the basis of it being a diol version, and only a fifth the DHT conversion afterwards because it has nandrolone as a target hormone. It's almost twice as anabolic as its dione counterpart and in terms of gains can match 4-diol milligram for milligram. It is of more use to the young bodybuilder because it converts to nandrolone via the 3-beta enzyme assuring high conversion and not interfering with testosterone production other than by negative feedback. Meaning in moderate doses it will not stunt your natural testosterone too much and ensure a faster recovery afterwards. That makes it definitely the most potent prohormone to use by itself, but obviously the stacking is limited. If you were willing to take the risk of mega-dosing and reach enzyme saturation, 19Nor is a possibility, but since most of the questions weget about prohormones have a severe undertone of fear where side effects are concerned, I don't think that will be a popular stack. With 4-diol you have too strong of a competition, vying for the same receptor enzyme. 5-diol is your best bet because of strong anabolism despite low conversion and the fact that it can upgrade the 3-beta enzyme assuring greater conversion.
 
More info on the tren please..what gains to possibly expect..is it good to cycle with Epi..is it anything like trenbolone?
 
Rpgove said:
More info on the tren please..what gains to possibly expect..is it good to cycle with Epi..is it anything like trenbolone?
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It's a solid steroid, but unlike Epi, Supadrol, and a few others its slower to kick in. 2-3 weeks. Gains are amazing with any of this compounds, there are no better ones offers on legal gray area market. Just like any compound oral or injection, gains are dependent on diet.
 
muscleaddiction said:
Let us know what you think or run a log on your cycle...will be interesting to hear some feedback on this product.

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I def will log it that cycle won't be happening for a while I'm still on pct from hella/katana.

I have epi 60
Tren
Rs transaderm

So still working on a layout
 
mstiles87 said:
I def will log it that cycle won't be happening for a while I'm still on pct from hella/katana.

I have epi 60
Tren
Rs transaderm

So still working on a layout
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Will be a great cycle indeed. Definitely post a log from start to finish. How much longer are you on off cycle?
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
Will be a great cycle indeed. Definitely post a log from start to finish. How much longer are you on off cycle?
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Still another 3 weeks pct added in osta for the rats will prob run osta an extra four weeks after pct uf rats respond well. Then mini unleashed pct for two weeks and two weeks clean I'm thinking so early mid December I'm thinking. I wish it was sooner.

I grabbed the epi when it first hit and rs when it was on sale. But tren now dropped so I figured stack all 3 for six weeks. I'll start a thread this weekend about he layout.

I'm gonna need advice on supports for tren
 
mstiles87 said:
Just got two bottles of tren in today gonna be a fun winter.
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I ordered 3 today and the epi max. Did you have to pay the 30 overnight shipping fee?
I've taken oral tren for my first cycle ever and I loved it and it worked great but you definitely gotta take n2gaurd. I'm waiting to see the experts chime in but I don't think you should mix tren and epi but I've never taken epi only tren. It made me super aggressive as everyone describes the injectable. I lost alot of weight and gained alot of muscle and I didn't know what the hell I was doing so this run should be the bomb since I've gained so much knowledge from the awesome folks from this site.
 
Yeah I paid the 30 overnight I didn't have the ne discount code for free shipping. But I def did not receive me package overnight it took a week
 
mstiles87 said:
Yeah I paid the 30 overnight I didn't have the ne discount code for free shipping. But I def did not receive me package overnight it took a week
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This is not in the norm, NTBM is very fast and you normally receive goods in 2-3 days without the overnight. There obviously was a problem that caused the delay.
 
Oh I'm not mad about it lol shut happens I know. I actually live about an hour and a half from needto's retail store in Massachusetts. I always make a stop when I travel that way for work. I usually get my stuff in two days. I was a little surprised about the huge overnight shipping cost. But I think they were switching over their codes and I didn't have the new discount code yet. I'm not mad I got my stuff. Shit happens no big deal when I ordered my epi at eleven at night I had it the day after next. I know needto is always good for it.
 
mstiles87 said:
Oh I'm not mad about it lol shut happens I know. I actually live about an hour and a half from needto's retail store in Massachusetts. I always make a stop when I travel that way for work. I usually get my stuff in two days. I was a little surprised about the huge overnight shipping cost. But I think they were switching over their codes and I didn't have the new discount code yet. I'm not mad I got my stuff. Shit happens no big deal when I ordered my epi at eleven at night I had it the day after next. I know needto is always good for it.
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deff not the norm! ive never seen a person say they waiting that long lol..Not sure what happened but thanks for the patience!
 
yea the most I've waited was 4 days def some of the best shipping I've had.3 days tops has been my experience
 
aaron367 said:
I have tried epi but didn't care much for it. I do love m drol tho. Will do a cycle of that any day.
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Everyone differs, I personally would and will run Epi anyday over drol. Drol is good for a strength boost or a start of a cycle, but good solid keepable gains Epi.....IMO
 
DAA is such a well rounded supp. You can run it on cycle, pct, or as a natty test booster with your shake.

I don't advise running it longer than 10 weeks though to keep bloat down

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just placed my order,I trust Nate,you have been around here about aslong as I have,always a solid bro. Now that my lady wont let my juice your stuff will be my tool. Cant wait to get it bro.
 
Hello Guys,

Sorry if this has been posted already, as I tried to read the 16 pages as best as I could.

I have done one cycle in my life (beastrol) was awesome!

How much dosage would you recommend for epi 60 for pretty much a new user?

My stats are 205lb, 6.3, 31 old.

Trying to get a better cut, while of course increasing strength.

Thanks for all the help!
 
^^ 2-3 caps a day split up.. it says right on the bottle how to use it.

its not as strong as beastdrol which is good and bad. good because your sides won't be so tough to deal with, bad because you won't get as strong on it.. but that is OKAY. its beastdrol's baby brother. I can honestly say I have no sides to report on this stuff while beastdrol was tough on me.
 
Ok awesome!

Whats the best PCT?

If I run this its going to cost me a boat load of cash:

1-6 epi 40/50/50/60/60/60
1-6 HCGenerate 77
1-6 n2guard
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

PCT

7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 daa powerchews or powder

Any alternatives? Thanks
 
That's a great run but I suggest

40/40/60/60/80/80

If you don't have the dough to run it right save up till you can no point running it less than perfect and you will have a better cycle web it's run properly.
 
How about this, its most cost effective

1-6 epi 40/40/60/60/60/80
1-6 n2guard
1-6 HCGenerate
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

PCT week 7-10

clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/post cycle combo
daa powerchews or powder
 
You could run without the creatine nitrate and n2slin. If nitrates too much you could always run mono which is dirt cheap now nitrates biggest pro is it doesn't give the bloat some get with mono.

You don't need n2 slin it is just an epic supp it really is.
 
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Hi Guys Please Help

I started the EPI 60 Cycle. 1 Week in going strong.

However I have to leave the country for some business in 6 weeks.

Would this cycle work:


1-4 epi 40/40/60/82

5-7 Pct?

Thanks for all the help!
 
I would run the full 6 weeks to maximizeyour Epi cycle. I personally would take PCT with me.



musclecando said:
Hi Guys Please Help

I started the EPI 60 Cycle. 1 Week in going strong.

However I have to leave the country for some business in 6 weeks.

Would this cycle work:


1-4 epi 40/40/60/82

5-7 Pct?

Thanks for all the help!
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ok im going to bump this because first of all I keep seeing everyone referring to Gorilla Pharma tren as a precursor to trenbelone and I also see the Gorilla Pharma moderator agreeing with it. Now this is a bit confusing to me to say the least. I have been told that the tren is not 19 norandrostenedione or whatever the fuck the spelling is but instead it's MENT. I would really like to know if this Gorilla Pharma company is legit and what exactly is in this tren before I put it into my body. Otherwise, I'm simply out 60 dollars. I can't find one epistane 60 log and not one tren log. If anyone can find a log can then please post a link here? It seems like every thread I see that begins to talk about these threads ends abruptly which is really fucking annoying. It's like watching a movie and not seeing the ending. Also why was there such a mixup with the labeling and chemical nomenclature of this compound? Any explanations would be greatly appreciated. I already got ripped off buying Shredded Labs Alpha-1. In case anyone didn't know yea it's bunk.
 
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