Moving from short ester to a long ester tren + test prop

[rambo9531]

Sometimes all these guys like to do is give newcomers and the young ones a hard time. It's true you gotta do your research but guess what: a lot of good info comes from these threads, from guys that talk from experience and tell you about the new products they tried, the pros and cons, the sides they experienced, so on and so forth. Let me put it this way, you won't find too many books on Tren PCT in Barnes and Noble and when you do it's from ten years ago. Half of these threads that provide good information are ball busting threads that start out like yours and some guys with too much testosterone starts busting your balls and telling you to go train for 5 more years before you take Tren. Guess what: my first cycle was a Tren cycle. I worked out like crazy, ate well, and rested well...all the things that I used to do before my first cycle. But it was the Tren that transformed me!! Conclusion: read up and do your research but do post your questions and hopefully next time you'll find someone who will answer your questions in an attempt to inform you and share his knowledge and personal experience. Hell, that's what these threads are for!!!

 

[dylangemelli]

Sometimes all these guys like to do is give newcomers and the young ones a hard time. It's true you gotta do your research but guess what: a lot of good info comes from these threads, from guys that talk from experience and tell you about the new products they tried, the pros and cons, the sides they experienced, so on and so forth. Let me put it this way, you won't find too many books on Tren PCT in Barnes and Noble and when you do it's from ten years ago. Half of these threads that provide good information are ball busting threads that start out like yours and some guys with too much testosterone starts busting your balls and telling you to go train for 5 more years before you take Tren. Guess what: my first cycle was a Tren cycle. I worked out like crazy, ate well, and rested well...all the things that I used to do before my first cycle. But it was the Tren that transformed me!! Conclusion: read up and do your research but do post your questions and hopefully next time you'll find someone who will answer your questions in an attempt to inform you and share his knowledge and personal experience. Hell, that's what these threads are for!!!

actually your wrong. way fucking wrong... its not about giving newcomers a hard time or young guys... thats not it at all... the problem is when people don't get the answers they WANT to hear... if you come in and ask a question and then get the truth, well that's what you are after... Noone is trying to give this guy a hard time at all... The point is this... WE ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PEOPLE'S WELL BEING, so encouraging someone in his situation to continue with steroids is NOT GOOD ADVICE... its not about being mean or giving someone a hard time... the only thing you said that's right is that these threads are here to help people learn... questions SHOULD be asked, but NOT MIDWAY THROUGH A CYCYLE or asking what to run for PCT when your cycle is a week over or shit like that... that's when people get a hard fucking time... THE GUYS HERE ACTUALLY CARE... sometimes we may be a bit hard on people but we are trying to HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN... do you realize how many people are helped on a daily basis on this board? SO MANY! I get pm's all the time thanking me for helping and so do many others here and thats what were here for! I know myself, that I give damn near all my free time to helping as many people as you can... so you need to really watch what your saying about people here just wanting to give a hard time man because thats a bunch of bs... We are here to help!

 

[BlueJayMuscle]

actually your wrong. way fucking wrong... its not about giving newcomers a hard time or young guys... thats not it at all... the problem is when people don't get the answers they WANT to hear... if you come in and ask a question and then get the truth, well that's what you are after... Noone is trying to give this guy a hard time at all... The point is this... WE ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PEOPLE'S WELL BEING, so encouraging someone in his situation to continue with steroids is NOT GOOD ADVICE... its not about being mean or giving someone a hard time... the only thing you said that's right is that these threads are here to help people learn... questions SHOULD be asked, but NOT MIDWAY THROUGH A CYCYLE or asking what to run for PCT when your cycle is a week over or shit like that... that's when people get a hard fucking time... THE GUYS HERE ACTUALLY CARE... sometimes we may be a bit hard on people but we are trying to HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN... do you realize how many people are helped on a daily basis on this board? SO MANY! I get pm's all the time thanking me for helping and so do many others here and thats what were here for! I know myself, that I give damn near all my free time to helping as many people as you can... so you need to really watch what your saying about people here just wanting to give a hard time man because thats a bunch of bs... We are here to help!

I agree with this. My advice to OP is stop pinning and start PCT. prolactin and estrogen are probably high. Personally I'd recommend waiting a couple days after stopping injections then get Black Lion Research Acnedren (If you still have acne issues) at 3 caps/day. Prolactrone at 3 caps/day and Formeron for 2 pumps/day.

And Clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks and you should then be in good shape and ready to train hard and research for a future cycle.

Good luck and safe pinning.

Ps. I'm a newcomer here but not to the game or muscle boards.

 

[rambo9531]

dylangemelli: I realize it wasn't your post but since you're commenting I will follow up. A few things: First of all, did you read EZ E's comments? He is the one I'm criticizing. I don't have a problem with someone who tells you the truth even if the truth is difficult to hear. That's not being mean, at least not in the context of this discussion. EZ E is not being mean, he's being an asshole threatening the guy that he's gonna get banned from the site unless he admits that he's wrong and ends his cycle. Somebody needs to ban his ass from this site...I don't give a fuck how much he knows about juice or how long he's been around. An asshole is an asshole. Personally, I would have told him to go fuck himself but the poor kid left the thread without standing up for himself. Probably did the right thing and I'm the one wasting my time here. You say you wanna help people? Do you think EZ E helped this guy? Or do you think he pushed him away by being an ass? I doubt the guy was going to stop juicing in the middle of his cycle so I think effective advice and HELPING the guy would have been to answer his questions and then NICELY tell him that he should have asked these questions before he started the cycle, etc. That way the guy would have had some respect for EZ E and maybe he would have actually taken his advice. That's my two cents and I'm gonna leave it at that.

 

[joeblow12345]

HI

Well I did the cycles a few years back and I was training for a long time and in very good shape. I always have a personal trainer just to make sure I go. I decided to move away to Thailand and I needed a bit of money behind me and as I was used to training every day and eating allot I quickly gained weight I put on a lot of body fat in 6 months of basically doing nothing. then I hit Thailand and beer was my new best friend. which just added to the problem.

Basically Ive decided to get back on track. 20% body fat is just a guess but I have a belly so its an educated one.

I have another question.

Say I was to drop the proprionate altogether would proviron be good enough to keep my thing functioning properly? I hate this compound and it hurts I did my thigh yesterday and its painful.

Also If I do drop it what about uping my tren to ed injections so I have more of that hormone in my body

Please advise

Im going to say this in the nicest way I can. Even though you have done and are currently using aas, you should not be. Your an amature,and steroids are for experienced atheletes looking to push themselves beyond their physical limitations. You have yet to reach anywhere near your natural limits and need to spend a few years growing on food. If you would have done more research you would know it wasnt a good idea to use in yoir current state. With that being said, its your life and your decision to make. Good luck.

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[dylangemelli]

dylangemelli: I realize it wasn't your post but since you're commenting I will follow up. A few things: First of all, did you read EZ E's comments? He is the one I'm criticizing. I don't have a problem with someone who tells you the truth even if the truth is difficult to hear. That's not being mean, at least not in the context of this discussion. EZ E is not being mean, he's being an asshole threatening the guy that he's gonna get banned from the site unless he admits that he's wrong and ends his cycle. Somebody needs to ban his ass from this site...I don't give a fuck how much he knows about juice or how long he's been around. An asshole is an asshole. Personally, I would have told him to go fuck himself but the poor kid left the thread without standing up for himself. Probably did the right thing and I'm the one wasting my time here. You say you wanna help people? Do you think EZ E helped this guy? Or do you think he pushed him away by being an ass? I doubt the guy was going to stop juicing in the middle of his cycle so I think effective advice and HELPING the guy would have been to answer his questions and then NICELY tell him that he should have asked these questions before he started the cycle, etc. That way the guy would have had some respect for EZ E and maybe he would have actually taken his advice. That's my two cents and I'm gonna leave it at that.

when you make reference to "these guys" then there's an inference there that is not going to sit well with someone like me... if you wanted to point out something someone in particular did that you didn't like, then you needed to say it that way and you would not have gotten the response you got from me... that's my problem... im not sure how long you have been around the board, but you only have two postings so that leads me to believe you havent been around long... if you have then im wrong but i took it as a general shot and that's why you got the response you did... sorry for the confusion... please just clarify next time...

 

[EZ_E]

dylangemelli: I realize it wasn't your post but since you're commenting I will follow up. A few things: First of all, did you read EZ E's comments? He is the one I'm criticizing. I don't have a problem with someone who tells you the truth even if the truth is difficult to hear. That's not being mean, at least not in the context of this discussion. EZ E is not being mean, he's being an asshole threatening the guy that he's gonna get banned from the site unless he admits that he's wrong and ends his cycle. Somebody needs to ban his ass from this site...I don't give a fuck how much he knows about juice or how long he's been around. An asshole is an asshole. Personally, I would have told him to go fuck himself but the poor kid left the thread without standing up for himself. Probably did the right thing and I'm the one wasting my time here. You say you wanna help people? Do you think EZ E helped this guy? Or do you think he pushed him away by being an ass? I doubt the guy was going to stop juicing in the middle of his cycle so I think effective advice and HELPING the guy would have been to answer his questions and then NICELY tell him that he should have asked these questions before he started the cycle, etc. That way the guy would have had some respect for EZ E and maybe he would have actually taken his advice. That's my two cents and I'm gonna leave it at that.

I'm beim an asshole for saving the guy years of health problems?

Try going back and reading what I wrote

~EZ