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ceo said:
Fact remains that politicians still don't give a shit about any of the poor or middle class.
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posted by Headholio
If you keep avoiding specifics, you need no facts and have nothing to defend. Simple jabs with nothing behind it. I see the ploy, but it doesn't accomplish much, does it?

if you want to talk taxes let's throw some facts into it:

-Tax revenue as % of GDP is 14% this year vs historical 17-20% from the mid 50's through Clinton and Bush.

-400 people in this country have more wealth than 50% of the population combined. what do you want the politicians to do about this bro? Take it away from the rich and redistribute it to the poor? lol.

-Average income for the bottom 90% is $31k. why is that? Do you suppose they have any control over that? Maybe through education, or working harder or smarter?

-Average income for the top one hundredth of 1 percent is $27 million/yr. And? We can't all be wealthy bro. Again, what do you want politicians to do about this? How would raising taxes on those people level the playing field in any other way than making them a little less rich? It's not going to make the poor any richer...unless the gov't starts paying people to be poor.

-From 1979 to 2007, the bottom 80% lost share of American wealth, while the top 20% gained 30% of the wealth, and the top 1% increased their share 120%. Again, your point? It sounds like you expect the dems to play Robin Hood for you. Is that correct?

-Before Reagan, the top tax brackets from the 1930s forward was in the 70% to 90% range, now its 35% and some bozos call Obama a socialist for proposing 39%. that would make every republican President from Hoover forward a socialist as well, except Reagan. I could live with a 4% increase to the top tax bracket. I sure would like to see a complete overhaul of frivolous government spending though (yeah right, like that will happen).

-Reagan increased taxes too, he just preferred to do it to middle class people. Even Reagan realized he created too much debt by his tax cuts, something that todays radical right will never acknowledge.

There, now we have some facts to discuss!
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Good questions, CEO. My point in general is to put facts on the table. Those facts aren't very pleasant. Things have not always been the way they are now, which means there are things we can do about it.

In the 60's, a corporate CEO made 24 times the income of his average worker. In this decade, the ratio rose to over 500 times average worker pay.

epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20060621/

During the economic expansion between 2002 and 2007, the income of the top 1% grew 10 times faster than the income of the bottom 90%. In this period 66% of total income gains went to the 1%, who in 2007 had a larger share of total income than at any time since 1928.

The gap between the wealthy and the vast majority of Americans is growing larger, exponentially.

You use the term redistribution, which is a common dog whistle term on the right, but remember, redistribution is happening every day. Money is flowing from average Americans to the super rich, every day.

As Americans, regardless of party, I hope most can agree that the trends are not positive. The concentration of wealth held by a very small minority is a characteristic of a third world country, an oligarchy, and exactly the opposite of what our founding fathers wanted.

In the old days, when a CEO made 24 times an average workers salary, he was rich. There was still an upper class, but there was more opportunity for average people.

There has been a trend, and a myth, that making the richer richer, will help everyone. that myth has been proven false. Reagan trickle down did not work. The trickle down went to China an India to increase corporate profits, and the middle class has not benefited.

These trends can be reversed. There can be more opportunity for average people, more help for people who need it, and more wealth among average people. Fiscal policy and government action can make this the land of opportunity it once was. Call it what you will.

“This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in.”
Theodore Roosevelt
 
Spartacus said:
fix me another drink french
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Payroll tax cut put up for the middle class... GOP denies it and says it has to be paid for by federal worker pay freezes and budget cutting.

They asked for NO cost leveraging for the extention of the BUSH tax cuts (+/-70 billion a year) they said must be extended to extend unemployment benefits.
There's a clear picture on who is at least doing something for the Masses and not a select few.

The chart above is Mainly do to LEGISLATION not to free market capitolism.
 
Headholio said:
Good questions, CEO. My point in general is to put facts on the table. Those facts aren't very pleasant. Things have not always been the way they are now, which means there are things we can do about it. And what do you propose to do about it? Make the gov't take the money from the rich and give it to the poor? Why would the poor want to continue to work hard (those that actually do) when the gov't will pay them just to be poor?

In the 60's, a corporate CEO made 24 times the income of his average worker. In this decade, the ratio rose to over 500 times average worker pay. Yeah, it sucks. You're talking about large corps here, not smaller businesses. People are greedy. Even with checks and balances of a Board of Directors in place the CEOs still get those big payouts. What about the companies that received bailouts? The CEOs still got bonuses and big paychecks...all for running the company into the ground. Those that got handouts should have had the CEOs (and maybe other execs) fired. Fuck em. Nobody (corps) should have gotten bailed out at all.

epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20060621/

During the economic expansion between 2002 and 2007, the income of the top 1% grew 10 times faster than the income of the bottom 90%. In this period 66% of total income gains went to the 1%, who in 2007 had a larger share of total income than at any time since 1928. Greed ran rampant. Too bad there weren't more responsible, good people in positions to be able to do something about it (and I don't mean gov't).

The gap between the wealthy and the vast majority of Americans is growing larger, exponentially. Sucks huh? Again...what do you propose we do about it?

You use the term redistribution, which is a common dog whistle term on the right, but remember, redistribution is happening every day. Money is flowing from average Americans to the super rich, every day. Ah, semantics. What would you like to call it? You've given me no direct answer, but it's obvious that is what you want and expect the dems to do. Good luck with that pipe dream. Yes, the rich know how to make money and the poor and middle class living in debt know how to spend it. Do they not have any choice in what they do with their money? It's a fact most people don't budget. Who's fault is that?

As Americans, regardless of party, I hope most can agree that the trends are not positive. The concentration of wealth held by a very small minority is a characteristic of a third world country, an oligarchy, and exactly the opposite of what our founding fathers wanted. Agreed. The trends are not positive. But it is happening and it has been happening for decades, regardless of the political party majority. Yes, that is a characteristic of a third world country. Again, how do you propose to fix this? If not for the country, then at least for yourself and your family?

In the old days, when a CEO made 24 times an average workers salary, he was rich. There was still an upper class, but there was more opportunity for average people. I know. And people worked 9-5 and had an hour for lunch. No cell phones, no internet, even the milk man had a house on the lake with a boat and he did well enough that his wife didn't have to work. She stayed home with the kids and had dinner ready when he got home at 5:30. Of course the average house cost like $6,000 (about $50-60k adjusted for inflation today).

There has been a trend, and a myth, that making the richer richer, will help everyone. that myth has been proven false. Reagan trickle down did not work. The trickle down went to China an India to increase corporate profits, and the middle class has not benefited. Making the rich richer helps everyone? Surely not everyone! I must have missed that trend.

These trends can be reversed. There can be more opportunity for average people, more help for people who need it, and more wealth among average people. Fiscal policy and government action can make this the land of opportunity it once was. Call it what you will. What opportunity for average people? How? Where will it come from? More help for people who need it? You mean more social programs (gov't handouts of tax dollars)? More wealth among average people? Again, how? You mean they will all start successful small businesses? Or will the gov't make them wealthy? How will gov't make this the land of opportunity again? Some will argue that gov't has been crippling the opportunities more and more over time. Regulations and controls, taxes and fees. I knew a lady who was running a very successful 24 hour daycare. it was successful because it was open 24 hours. Well, the state has to be able to visit anytime during operating hours, and no state worker worked nights or weekends, so they forced her to close on nights and weekends and she lost the bulk of her business. She lost her competitive edge, her niche. She shut down. Real opportunity creators, that gov't, huh?

“This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in.”
Theodore Roosevelt
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You still haven't told us what you want the gov't to do about all this uneven distribution of wealth and corporate greed.
 
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Allow me to clarify the statistics the lefties like to quote....

These statistics don't account for healthcare and other benefits as income; Roughly 80% of Americans have healthcare provided...that is real income but not considered income by the tax code based on some FDR era legislation. If you have healthcare provided by your employer that increases in cost by 8% per year that is an income increase...

If you account for benefits provided by employers that aren't treated as income the middle class in America is doing just fine...
 
one time when I unwrapped a dead body I found a remote control
fuck they're probably lookin' for this
 
one time guy died in an easy chair in recline and rigored up in that position
 
had a pack of camel non-filters in him shirt pocket
probably died watching letterman
had the remote
 
see rigor sets in initially about the neck area so for him to be entirely tightened up when his 5 year old nephew "found" him
he must of been dead about 8 hours
+/- an hour or so
 
one time I knew I was into some shit when the cops outside the house were giving me directions to the body in the house
"go in make a left and go down the hallway...."
and all the flies buzzing around the dryer vent
fuck
 
brownbrown said:
winners2.jpg

Payroll tax cut put up for the middle class... GOP denies it and says it has to be paid for by federal worker pay freezes and budget cutting.

They asked for NO cost leveraging for the extention of the BUSH tax cuts (+/-70 billion a year) they said must be extended to extend unemployment benefits.
There's a clear picture on who is at least doing something for the Masses and not a select few.

The chart above is Mainly do to LEGISLATION not to free market capitolism.
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I'm amazed to learn that there are NO rich/wealthy Democrats.

LOL @ any politician actually doing anything [good] for the masses.
 
ceo said:
I'm amazed to learn that there are NO rich/wealthy Democrats.

LOL @ any politician actually doing anything [good] for the masses.
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There are. But they are the guilty rich people (the ones that feel guilty that they are rich and want to make it batter for others.)
then there are the Rich GOp members. (they feel that they are the only ones that should EVER be rich, and that others should never be rich)
Then there are the ones from both parties that arent neither and want to do whats good for AMERICA.

You can guess who's incharge at the moment.
 
brownbrown said:
There are. But they are the guilty rich people (the ones that feel guilty that they are rich and want to make it batter for others.)
then there are the Rich GOp members. (they feel that they are the only ones that should EVER be rich, and that others should never be rich)
Then there are the ones from both parties that arent neither and want to do whats good for AMERICA.

You can guess who's incharge at the moment.
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So, has Warren Buffet stopped his lawsuit against the IRS claiming they don't owe corporate taxes?...they have been fighting for the last decade? Is Jamie Diamond and all the other Wall Street Elite that donated to Obama overwhelmingly over McCain clamoring for higher capital gains?
 
javaguru said:
So, has Warren Buffet stopped his lawsuit against the IRS claiming they don't owe corporate taxes?...they have been fighting for the last decade? Is Jamie Diamond and all the other Wall Street Elite that donated to Obama overwhelmingly over McCain clamoring for higher capital gains?
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yes
 
brownbrown said:
yes
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Nope..Post the settlement announcement between Warren's company and the IRS about their disagreement on how much the country is owed....They have been fighting it for about a decade...

This is from the Huffington Post so I assume you accept it as a valid source..
Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Owes Taxes Going Back To 2002

"Berkshire Hathaway, the eighth-largest public company in the world according to Forbes, openly admits to still owing taxes for years 2002 through 2004 and 2005 through 2009, according to the New York Post. The company says it expects to "resolve all adjustments proposed by the US Internal Revenue Service" within the next year. "
 
mrplunkey said:
That's just awesome. You believe exactly what you want to, irregardless of the facts.
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Looking for an excuse to attack. :rolleyes:
Well I didnt catch the question about buffet.
I did catch the part about the donters giving Obama money and him still talking about capitol gains.

It's fine that he's arguing the corporate tax thing for his company. Shit, the IRS makes mistakes all the time. Thats what the court system is for. Settling these types of disputes.
On the other hand, he has been a Philanthropist for more equality. At least he's battling in the court system about it and not just using the Lobby system to legislate cheating.
 
brownbrown said:
Looking for an excuse to attack. :rolleyes:
Well I didnt catch the question about buffet.
I did catch the part about the donters giving Obama money and him still talking about capitol gains.

It's fine that he's arguing the corporate tax thing for his company. Shit, the IRS makes mistakes all the time. Thats what the court system is for. Settling these types of disputes.
On the other hand, he has been a Philanthropist for more equality. At least he's battling in the court system about it and not just using the Lobby system to legislate cheating.
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- Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad that Berkshire acquired last year spent $1.5 million on lobbying in the first quarter of 2010

- MidAmerican Energy, which includes Berkshire's utility and pipeline companies, spent $358,450 to lobby Congress between January and March of this year on energy regulations, the federal budget and greenhouse gas, according to a report filed April 20 with the House clerk's office

- NetJets spent $50,000 in this year's first quarter to influence tax rules that the Federal Aviation Administration oversees. The fractional jet ownership firm also spent $110,000 in last year's first quarter and $20,000 in the fourth quarter to influence Congress.

- The McLane Company, which distributes food and other products to convenience stores, reported spending $30,000 in the fourth quarter of 2010 and $10,000 in the first three months of this year

:rolleyes:
 
brownbrown said:
Looking for an excuse to attack. :rolleyes:
Well I didnt catch the question about buffet.
I did catch the part about the donters giving Obama money and him still talking about capitol gains.

It's fine that he's arguing the corporate tax thing for his company. Shit, the IRS makes mistakes all the time. Thats what the court system is for. Settling these types of disputes.
On the other hand, he has been a Philanthropist for more equality. At least he's battling in the court system about it and not just using the Lobby system to legislate cheating.
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Too many words for you to understand?

Buffett shared in his piece that he’d paid $6,938,744 in 2010 federal taxes, including income and payroll taxes. “That sounds like a lot of money,” he said. “But what I paid was only 17.4% of my taxable income–and that’s actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office.”
WASHINGTON — Warren Buffett is bringing his fight to raise taxes on the super-wealthy to Congress' deficit-reduction supercommittee.


In an exchange of letters between the billionaire investor and a Republican congressman that Buffett sent the committee this week, Buffett is offering to release his federal tax returns — with a condition.


"If you could get other ultra rich Americans to publish their returns along with mine, that would be very useful to the tax dialogue and intelligent reform," Buffett wrote.


Buffet: The "mega-rich" pay about 15 percent in taxes, while the middle class "fall into the 15 percent and 25 percent income tax brackets, and then are hit with heavy payroll taxes to boot."

source; Tulsaworld :

WASHINGTON — Warren Buffett is bringing his fight to raise taxes on the super-wealthy to Congress' deficit-reduction supercommittee.


In an exchange of letters between the billionaire investor and a Republican congressman that Buffett sent the committee this week, Buffett is offering to release his federal tax returns — with a condition."If you could get other ultra rich Americans to publish their returns along with mine, that would be very useful to the tax dialogue and intelligent reform," Buffett wrote.
 
brownbrown said:
Too many words for you to understand?
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I wouldn't expect you to recognize hypocrisy.

Let good-old Warren drop his massive IRS lawsuit and swear-off tax/subsidy lobbying for his companies, and perhaps he'll get a sliver of credibility regarding his desire to pay more taxes.

Until then, meh.
 
mrplunkey said:
I wouldn't expect you to recognize hypocrisy.

Let good-old Warren drop his massive IRS lawsuit and swear-off tax/subsidy lobbying for his companies, and perhaps he'll get a sliver of credibility regarding his desire to pay more taxes.

Until then, meh.
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I would see it as hypocrisy if he hasn't actually been acting on behalf of the Country and just "rehtoric" spun like the "GOP" does constantly.

Taking action to stop it, but continuing to use it while it's legal is fine with me. At least he's doing something and not just sucking from the teet of the middle class only.
And the amount of $ he spends on helping Americans is well over the $ he spends on lobbying. FACT
 
brownbrown said:
I would see it as hypocrisy if he hasn't actually been acting on behalf of the Country and just "rehtoric" spun like the "GOP" does constantly.

Taking action to stop it, but continuing to use it while it's legal is fine with me. At least he's doing something and not just sucking from the teet of the middle class only.
And the amount of $ he spends on helping Americans is well over the $ he spends on lobbying. FACT
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I find it hilarious that all of you libtard hippy types suddenly declare a Wall Street-style investor whose marquis holding is high fructose-laced corn syrup a God once he advocates a tax increase on the super-rich.

Oh the irony...
 
mrplunkey said:
I wouldn't expect you to recognize hypocrisy.

Let good-old Warren drop his massive IRS lawsuit and swear-off tax/subsidy lobbying for his companies, and perhaps he'll get a sliver of credibility regarding his desire to pay more taxes.

Until then, meh.
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And as I stated. the IRS could have made a mistake and the Lawsuit could be valid.
You obvously didnt get that part.

On a side note. All those GOP Governors that hated Stimulus still had their hand out. Do you get the compairison?
 
mrplunkey said:
I find it hilarious that all of you libtard hippy types suddenly declare a Wall Street-style investor whose marquis holding is high fructose-laced corn syrup a God once he advocates a tax increase on the super-rich.

Oh the irony...
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WTF are you talkiing about?? Hippy type? Libtard? Corn Syrup?
LOL, typical.... change of subject ...
I've been a Buffet fan for years. He has been a great philanthropist, has done a great deal for the people of Lousiana, has a wonderful charities.... ect ect... So your wrong again.
Just because he's gettiing headlines now doesnt mean he hasnt been a good before.
 
brownbrown said:
WTF are you talkiing about?? Hippy type? Libtard? Corn Syrup?
LOL, typical.... change of subject ...
I've been a Buffet fan for years. He has been a great philanthropist, has done a great deal for the people of Lousiana, has a wonderful charities.... ect ect... So your wrong again.
Just because he's gettiing headlines now doesnt mean he hasnt been a good before.
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So you support the super wealthy tax breaks? He's been getting them for decades and profiting from insider trading as well.

Maybe I'm missing the point...the super wealthy donate piles of money to charity, pay the majority of income tax and yet they're evil unless they support a Dam?
 
brownbrown said:
There are. But they are the guilty rich people (the ones that feel guilty that they are rich and want to make it batter for others.)
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Dude...you can't possibly be this stupid. You are trying to paint rich dems as fucking saints? LOL! Tell that to the family of Mary Jo Kopechne.
 
Buffet is just a hypocrite paying lip service. He can talk all he wants, but he knows he isn't ever going to pay much if any more in taxes. And why should he? If that's all he pays after his accountants and tax attorneys take advantage of every legal means to lower his tax liability...great! They are doing their jobs. IF he paid more in taxes that would be that much less he could/would give to charities.

If more people would give to responsible charities and more churches would do real things to help people right in their own neighborhoods, there wouldn't be such a huge need for more government handouts. Then maybe there wouldn't be an outcry for increasing taxes.

More personal responsibility? The fuck you say? You know that big grocery stores throw away tons of food at the end of the night? They can't donate it, because if some poor or homeless fuck gets sick eating some fried chicken right out of the grocery display case they could sue and the store is liable! It's the store's fault! They provided the food to this starving asshole. You'd think they forced it down his throat too. So instead, some of these poor people get to wait outside and dive into the dumpsters after the food has been tossed in with garbage and god knows what. That way if they get sick (more likely you would think), they can't sue (well, they can try). Those lawsuits shouldn't be allowed. Many companies and people are too afraid to get involved and help anymore, because they might get sued.
 
ceo said:
Dude...you can't possibly be this stupid. You are trying to paint rich dems as fucking saints? LOL! Tell that to the family of Mary Jo Kopechne.
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How the fuck would they be saints? I didnt say they were anything close to perfect. Your reading into my comment and seeing something else.
You effectively Re-worded it in your mind.
Saints???!!
you picked 1 line out pf the post and twisted it into some crazy shit! Wtf?
 
brownbrown said:
How the fuck would they be saints? I didnt say they were anything close to perfect. Your reading into my comment and seeing something else.
You effectively Re-worded it in your mind.
Saints???!!
you picked 1 line out pf the post and twisted it into some crazy shit! Wtf?
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Yeah, you'd never say anything crazy!

:rolleyes:

(that was sarcasm, just in case you and RS share a sense of humor as well as you're o-rings)

And yes, I intentionally misspelled "you're"
 
brownbrown said:
How the fuck would they be saints? I didnt say they were anything close to perfect. Your reading into my comment and seeing something else.
You effectively Re-worded it in your mind.
Saints???!!
you picked 1 line out pf the post and twisted it into some crazy shit! Wtf?
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You didn't say they were perfect, but you implied it. Did I twist it? Was it really a stretch? Let's see...

ceo said:
I'm amazed to learn that there are NO rich/wealthy Democrats.
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brownbrown said:
There are. But they are the guilty rich people (the ones that feel guilty that they are rich and want to make it batter for others.)
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You said there are rich/wealthy Dems. You said they are "the guilty rich", like they are [paraphrasing now] just so tormented that they somehow got rich through their misfortune and they feel so horrible that they are rich and not everyone else is too. That sounds pretty saintly to me bor.

If these rich dems are so tormented by their riches and want to make everyone else rich too...why aren't they giving away every penny over $100,000 (so that they can still live decently) to the poor? They aren't feeling that guilty bro. Don't tell me you actually believe any of this bullshit you are trying to get others to swallow? LOL! I think you're just trolling now.
 
ceo said:
You didn't say they were perfect, but you implied it. Did I twist it? Was it really a stretch? Let's see...
You said there are rich/wealthy Dems. You said they are "the guilty rich", like they are [paraphrasing now] just so tormented that they somehow got rich through their misfortune and they feel so horrible that they are rich and not everyone else is too. That sounds pretty saintly to me bor.
If these rich dems are so tormented by their riches and want to make everyone else rich too...why aren't they giving away every penny over $100,000 (so that they can still live decently) to the poor? They aren't feeling that guilty bro. Don't tell me you actually believe any of this bullshit you are trying to get others to swallow? LOL! I think you're just trolling now.
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brownbrown said:
There are. But they are the guilty rich people (the ones that feel guilty that they are rich and want to make it batter for others.)
then there are the Rich GOp members. (they feel that they are the only ones that should EVER be rich, and that others should never be rich)
Then there are the ones from both parties that arent neither and want to do whats good for AMERICA.

You can guess who's incharge at the moment.
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Paraphrasing destroys my whole post.
I can not possibly speak for the heart of 200+ Democratic politicians. But I can look at voting records and see who has the well being of the Majority in mind.

Being "guilty"(not meant to be 100% litteral). How about I use the word Compassion?
Why don't they give away every penny over $100K? Is that rethorical or litteral? And I'm trolling CEO? :D
Having compassion for others less fortunate dosen't justify giving away ones wealth because of not being a cold hearted Dickhole.
 
brownbrown said:
Paraphrasing destroys my whole post.
I can not possibly speak for the heart of 200+ Democratic politicians. But I can look at voting records and see who has the well being of the Majority in mind.

Being "guilty"(not meant to be 100% litteral). How about I use the word Compassion?
Why don't they give away every penny over $100K? Is that rethorical or litteral? And I'm trolling CEO? :D
Having compassion for others less fortunate dosen't justify giving away ones wealth because of not being a cold hearted Dickhole.
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You're the one who said the rich dems were the ones who felt guilty about being rich and want to make it better for others (assuming "others" means others who aren't rich). Yes, it was meant literally. If they feel soooooo guilty, let them give away most of their fortune now, not when they're dead (like any of them would do that anyway). They don't need all that money.

LOL again @ politicians having compassion for the poor and middle class. You're killing me with this bro! Yes, why should these guilty, rich politicians give away their wealth when they can legislate that to others?

Voting records don't mean shit to me. They vote party lines and know the outcomes before the votes are ever cast. Votes are bought and paid for anyway. Politicians by and large have become a bunch of lazy, greedy, entitlement-minded, selfish, evil pricks over the last hundred or so years. Both parties. The system is fucked. There will never be anything good to come out of it for the poor and middle class (a lifetime of handouts is not something I consider good).

Fuck dems and fuck repubs. They all need to be fired. Term limits need to be set, and politicians should be part time, no benefits, and have to have real jobs to support their families. These assholes are so out of touch with reality it's sick. Open your eyes bro.
 
Mr. dB said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/opinion/brooks-the-wonky-liberal.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB
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That opinion piece is completely filled with innacuracies. Let me pick one out:

"There are two large lessons here. First, Republican candidates can say they will deregulate and, in some areas, that would be a good thing. But it will not produce a short-term economic rebound because regulations are not a big factor in our short-term problems."

When FDA switches from a Republican administration to a Democratic one, we feel the effect within ~30 days. In many cases, we feel the direct impact before the official head of the agency is even put into place.

So would you consider 30 days "short term" or was he thinking of 1-2 week timespan?

Here's another:

"Second, it is easy to be cynical about politics and to say that Washington is a polarized cesspool. And it’s true that the interest groups and the fund-raisers make every disagreement seem like a life-or-death struggle. But, in reality, most people in government are trying to find a balance between difficult trade-offs. Whether it’s antiterrorism policy or regulatory policy, most substantive disagreements are within the 40 yard lines."

That's completely untrue as well. Look at the new rule the NLRB jammed through last week. They want to force union elections into a 15-21 day process because it favors unions. Who on this planet would consider that "within the 40 yard lines"? Let's get this straight: A union election at a person's place of work will have a vastly greater impact on someone's life than a presidential election. So for this huge decision, we'll only give them 15-21 days to do their research yet the presidential selection process takes almost two years. And again I'll ask -- how is that "within the 40 yard lines."?
 
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