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test 500mg/deca 300mg/ dbol 30mg cycle, advice please

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pimpski7

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Hey guys. So I'm currently on week one of
Test E 250 mg 2★ W 1-14
Deca 150mg 2★ W 1-12
DBol 10 mg 3★ daily W 1-4
Starting week 3-12 HCG 250 iu 2★
Liquidex on hand for later, will run at. 25 mg EOD up to. 5mg if needed.
PCT -- clomid taper, P5 (test booster)
Vitamins and stuff of course
Stats-
5'6
165lbs
9% bf
25 years old
Been training for over ten
Diet consists of six full meals, not including shakes.

This is my third cycle. First time on this stack. Looking for any tips. Should I increase any of my doses, or add any other supports?? Looking to gain as much possible. Thanks!
 
thats the stack that bulked me up bigtime.. best stack i ever ran for bulk. but deca isn't the easiest to recover from.. make sure you run a long pct and give yourself time. and i would strongly advise you to not run deca 12 weeks. i would run it 8 weeks and run test e 11 weeks. you run it 12 weeks thats like running it 17 weeks.

also another tip is be careful with your body fat.. i went from 7% to 17% on 2 deca cycles ... your appetite will be sky high which is the whole point of running deca, however don't let your body fat get out of control cause you won't look good at that high a body fat. i looked like shit at 17%
 
Thanks Stevesmi. I can drop it down to eight weeks. Safe some money that way. Will I still yield as good results? How about 10 weeks? ;)
I've been reading a lot of good stuff about unleashed. I might as well give it a shot. Should I get a bottle of Forma for PCT also? or get it for cycle support??
 
What was your weight before your 1st cycle?

Just curious....

~EZ
 
pimpski7 said:
Thanks Stevesmi. I can drop it down to eight weeks. Safe some money that way. Will I still yield as good results? How about 10 weeks? ;)
I've been reading a lot of good stuff about unleashed. I might as well give it a shot. Should I get a bottle of Forma for PCT also? or get it for cycle support??
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i ran it 8 weeks both times. like i already said it sticks around a good 5 weeks after last injection. 8 weeks is really 13 weeks. i was gaining 5 weeks after, don't be fooled that the half life is 2 weeks, the esters stick around longer than that in the body... trust me
 
EZ_E said:
What was your weight before your 1st cycle?

Just curious....

~EZ
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I was thinking same thing. Personally I have never used deca, but I think most don't need it. Test stacks without deca keep you leaner and lower risk for sides. Test + Dbol bulk me up just fine and my bf% never goes above 11%. Of course there are those who just want some raw bulk but imo deca isn't worth it.
 
First cycle was test 500mg by itself, second cycle was test 750mg and Eq 900 mg I think, I don't remember quite honestly. I've retained 15 lbs of quality from both cycles, lost probably 15, I say I use to weigh round 150. Calorie intake will be 5000 easy. All I do is eat. I wake up in the middle of the night and eat because I get hunger pains! Ahaha serious tho. Not worried bout body fat so much because ill loose it quick. Ill stick tto an eight week cycle stevesmi. First time running this stack, no need yo push the limits. Thanks
 
pimpski7 said:
Thanks Stevesmi. I can drop it down to eight weeks. Safe some money that way. Will I still yield as good results? How about 10 weeks? ;)
I've been reading a lot of good stuff about unleashed. I might as well give it a shot. Should I get a bottle of Forma for PCT also? or get it for cycle support??
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Get forma for cycle support, it will lower prolactin levels which can become an issue with deca
 
Flash421 said:
Would forma be enough
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exactly like gymjunkie said.. always have ancillaries on hand.

you can run bloods during cycle and see if your prolactin is under control and adjust as necessary. once you gain experience you will be able to answer this question yourself and know what works for you and what doesn't.

in GJ's case he ran caber and had bad sides so for him he should try other options.. in my case caber and forma together worked in perfect synergy and i had zero issues with prolactin, gyno, recovery issues, estrogen, etc.
 
750 Test/900 EQ for a 2nd cycle :eek2::eek2:

~EZ
 
I think replacing the deca with eq would be better personally I am not a fan of the deca tren cause emotion sides and cause prolactin sides which can make things confusing for you.
 
I did EQ. It was ok. The Test EQ cycle I said I did second, but that is for AAS. I ran prohormones for two years. I can tell the Deca is starting to kick in, for I believe my last nut was probably going to be my last until my forma comes in. I am getting Prami too. Not so happy thinking about the sides that comes with it though. I'm close to my third week and my strength is through the roof. I'm sore maybe an hour out the day, then I am ready to go again. I've still been taking one day off at the gym for rest though, even though my body feels like it can go all week. The veins I did have are larger, and smaller ones are now visible through my skin. I love it. I'm no longer bloated, I've been running my liquidex. No side effects just yet, except for I can feel my junk is starting to give up. My girl knows whats up, shes cool with it I guess?? Ahaha. I'm tempted to post my progress pics up, but I'll be patient and wait till my last dose of Dbol ;) Thanks all
 
Alright, here's some pics I just took. My chest looks smaller? That's why my chest is a big focus this cycle.

O yea, and I said something about me running 900mg of Eq. I think I meant 600mg. lol Sorry
 
^^^ you've got good vascularity in the arms and back.. your chest does need work... i would set up a split and on your pushing days hit the bench press and incline/decline hard. i would also consider trying centuries which is 10X10 on the bench.. dedicate 50 minutes for that it isn't easy. it will work the crap out of your red muscle fibers.

don't expect to keep your vascularity after deca.. i would say a realitic goal for you after deca would be 5 6 175 and 12% bf.
 
^^^ how is your body fat after putting on that much weight?

you may want to consider a fat burner now while you are on to help counteract too much fat gain. it took me a while after my deca cycle to get rid of the fat i put on so monitor it closely. check out N2Stim/N2burn.
 
^^^Stevesmi... BF hasn't increased to much. I started running the liquidex around week two because of bloat. My joints started hurting, so I have stopped. I have had no problems since. I think I just over reacted. I've gained close to 15 lbs and haven't even finished week four. Interested to see how this all turns out. My six pack has turned into a four pack lol. Not worried about it. I can get it back. Can't have the best of both worlds yet. My aggression is ridiculous. I almost thought about stopping the Dbol after week three, but have decided to run it out. One second I'm as happy as can be, and the next second I'm ready to rip someones head off. My step mom asked me if I was taking roids at Thanksgiving Dinner lol. She was just messin though. Unfortunately hair is starting to fall out. All of these symptoms (hair falling out, excessive aggression) all happened to me last time at week four. My hair just looks like its thinning, so I'm not worried about it. Its gonna go eventually anyways. If I don't get at least 8-10 hours of sleep, I am real lethargic. Could this be the prolactin/progesterone building up?? Deca dick still not a side effect. I get random wood for no frickin reason. My sex drive already through the roof, add some test in there and I'll screw just bout anything.
The manager at the gym offered me a job being a physical trainer yesturday. I took it as a compliment. Not my style though

O yea, my lower back pump is there 3/4 of the day. When it first showed up it was when doing squats. I thought it was my form, but my form is perfect. I get it just sitting down. Kinda annoying, but manageble
 
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^^^ your lethargy is from putting on that much weight so fast. whether its water or muscle its not gonna help your heart health. also more intense workouts are gonna require plenty of sleep to rest the body.

this type of bulking cycle is capable of changing your body composition very quickly so its not suprising your mom thinks you are juiced up. your pumps are from the dbol, you should be finishing up with dbol anyway though soon, no need for it now that you have plenty of deca built up in your system. keep working out hard and eating clean and I would definately again suggest some sort of fat burner like N2Stim to help keep down fat gain. I put on a ton of mass on my deca cycle myself a few years back, but I looked like shit after the cycle cause i lost my 6 pack and i got deca belly.. granted I looked big and was strong as hell. just wasn't the look i was going for
 
pimpski7 said:
Thanks Stevesmi. I can drop it down to eight weeks. Safe some money that way. Will I still yield as good results? How about 10 weeks? ;)
I've been reading a lot of good stuff about unleashed. I might as well give it a shot. Should I get a bottle of Forma for PCT also? or get it for cycle support??
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The Best thing about forma is you can run it on cycle,and if you have any left over ,run it for PCT also.
Forma will help keep you dry so you may not have any problems or sides with the deca and Test!
 
RADAR said:
The Best thing about forma is you can run it on cycle,and if you have any left over ,run it for PCT also.
Forma will help keep you dry so you may not have any problems or sides with the deca and Test!
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+1 forma is perfect for test/deca cycles because it helps control estrogen and prolactin
 
Right on. I got 2x forma. Was going to hold off until PCT, but I guess I'll run them now. I'll just order another one later. Stevesmi, I'm ready to get the most out of this cycle. I know ill loose my six pack and some vascularity, but the abs and veins will still be there. I want to gain this muscle and the stabalize it. 6 months down the road I'll be able to adapt to my size. Hopefully lol shouldn't be a problem though.
 
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