Buffet: Tax the mega-rich

[mrplunkey]

The answer is obvious, this burden should be taken over by faith-based charities.

That's a great idea. Estimates vary, but US charities raised around $308B in 2008.

During that same year, Welfare/Unemployment/Other mandatory spending came in at $324B.

Just imagine what it could be if:

1) Less money were confiscated by the government from would-be givers.

2) We dumped the responsibility back on individuals to handle issues like these. Right now, a lot of Americans feel "they gave at the office" -- with the "office" being their 1040.

 

[brownbrown]

1) How exactly do you justify taking money supposedly for people's retirement and giving it to the disabled (and sometimes the not-so-disabled)?

2) SSDI is horribly abused. One in two applicants eventually get paaaaaaaaiiiid. There is a large side business that has been created by lawyers who work the system and then take a piece of the cut.

1, How do you Justify taking money supposedly for peoples retirement and giving to Bankers and Hedge-fund Managers for selling toxic stocks and morgages and betting against them for huge bonus', compensation, and Salaries, but telling the disabled to fuck off?

2. SSDI is horribly abused. IT does need a revamp. But just kicking it to the curb and leaving the disabled(through no fault of their own) to fall into oblivion.

Every program gov/private is abused. Some more than others. That doesnt mean they dont do good for a large portion of people.

 

[brownbrown]

That's a great idea. Estimates vary, but US charities raised around $308B in 2008.

During that same year, Welfare/Unemployment/Other mandatory spending came in at $324B.

Just imagine what it could be if:

1) Less money were confiscated by the government from would-be givers.

2) We dumped the responsibility back on individuals to handle issues like these. Right now, a lot of Americans feel "they gave at the office" -- with the "office" being their 1040.

Charities raised $308 billion.... That number is what’s reported. How much was really given to those charities? I bet anywhere from $500-$700 Billion was given, but only a a portion of that was reported.
And how much of the $308 billion actually made it to the needy? I bet 1/3 to 1/2 actually made it there, due to thief’s and red tape and siphoning to more thief’s/shady churches evangelists.

And if I heard one more idiotic argument that Charity and Taxes are comparable I’m going to lose my mind.
Charities are something given to help a cause you believe in = Church, Animal shelters, Breast cancer ect.
TAXES= Are a thing we pay to ensure the survival of a society . It’s a price we pay to live in a CIVILIZED country. Something to ensure our Country stays strong and is productive.

Apples and Oranges. Holy shit are people getting more stupid by the day

 

[digimon7068]

Charities raised $308 billion.... That number is what’s reported. How much was really given to those charities? I bet anywhere from $500-$700 Billion was given, but only a a portion of that was reported.
And how much of the $308 billion actually made it to the needy? I bet 1/3 to 1/2 actually made it there, due to thief’s and red tape and siphoning to more thief’s/shady churches evangelists.

And if I heard one more idiotic argument that Charity and Taxes are comparable I’m going to lose my mind.
Charities are something given to help a cause you believe in = Church, Animal shelters, Breast cancer ect.
TAXES= Are a thing we pay to ensure the survival of a society . It’s a price we pay to live in a CIVILIZED country. Something to ensure our Country stays strong and is productive.

Apples and Oranges. Holy shit are people getting more stupid by the day

i blame the tren in the beef supply

 

[brownbrown]

i blame the tren in the beef supply

ROFLMAO...Prolly !

 

[mrplunkey]

1, How do you Justify taking money supposedly for peoples retirement and giving to Bankers and Hedge-fund Managers for selling toxic stocks and morgages and betting against them for huge bonus', compensation, and Salaries, but telling the disabled to fuck off?

2. SSDI is horribly abused. IT does need a revamp. But just kicking it to the curb and leaving the disabled(through no fault of their own) to fall into oblivion.

Every program gov/private is abused. Some more than others. That doesnt mean they dont do good for a large portion of people.

1) I was against bailouts early on. I have posts on this boars dating waaaay back to before being anti-bailout was fashionable.

2) "Revamping" SSDI is like believing you can pick up a turd by the clean end.

 

[digimon7068]

1, How do you Justify taking money supposedly for peoples retirement and giving to Bankers and Hedge-fund Managers for selling toxic stocks and morgages and betting against them for huge bonus', compensation, and Salaries, but telling the disabled to fuck off?

2. SSDI is horribly abused. IT does need a revamp. But just kicking it to the curb and leaving the disabled(through no fault of their own) to fall into oblivion.

Every program gov/private is abused. Some more than others. That doesnt mean they dont do good for a large portion of people.

eh, i'm not advocating that anyone be kicked to the curb, i'm merely proposing that there be a separate system to deal with disabilities, etc...the social security system and it's administration was not designed for the nonsense that it is regularly subjected to...the way that the ss system is operated and administrated leaves it wide open to be ass-raped by lawyers...hell, half the damn state of west virginia is living on social security because of an unprovable (and undisprovable) "back injury".

 

[brownbrown]

eh, i'm not advocating that anyone be kicked to the curb, i'm merely proposing that there be a separate system to deal with disabilities, etc...the social security system and it's administration was not designed for the nonsense that it is regularly subjected to...the way that the ss system is operated and administrated leaves it wide open to be ass-raped by lawyers...hell, half the damn state of west virginia is living on social security because of an unprovable (and undisprovable) "back injury".

You know what... Seriously... Thats a good fucking idea.
But, with the garbage going on in D.C. it would be impossible. Any added government programs would be shot down by the Idiots running the HoR right now. I miss the sane Republican party.

 

[digimon7068]

You know what... Seriously... Thats a good fucking idea.
But, with the garbage going on in D.C. it would be impossible. Any added government programs would be shot down by the Idiots running the HoR right now. I miss the sane Republican party.

certain situations are crying out for more government...and a whole lot more are crying out to be left alone...we desperately need a redistribution of focus.

 

[brownbrown]

1) I was against bailouts early on. I have posts on this boars dating waaaay back to before being anti-bailout was fashionable. LOL DITTO

2) "Revamping" SSDI is like believing you can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Wrong answer. I Posted for you before the Facts on SS. SSDI is included in those numbers. And instead of complaining, talk about solutions. You got a better idea that hasn't been tried or researched then speak up. Complaining without having a solution is the mantra of the current House of Representatives, Right Wing Wacko's and FAUX news. Now I can say Plunkster too ??