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What do pro's use to get ripped for competition?
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johnnyboy3689282
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Let me lay it out for you like this....... Coming from a very close friend of mine that i will not name
GH- 10-15ius per day pending on individual
The use of a compound not to be mentioned on here.
Test- 2.5-5 grams of test per week
Tren- 800 mg- 1 gram per week drop 2 weeks before show.
Mast- 800mg-1.4 grams per week for 8 weeks
Primo- 1.5 g per week from week 5 out
EQ- 1 Gram per week last 8 weeks
Anavar- 200mg per day last 6 weeks
Anadrol- 150 mg per day last 6 weeks
The use of T3/T4... Not sure of the dosage, didnt ask him about it but i know its used.
This will be from 12 weeks out with the dosages increasing.
His stats---- 5'8'' 225 5% body fat...
He doesnt come off bro... When he bulks he ups the dose to something i wouldnt tell you. He is 22 years old and is dead set on competing olympia by the time hes 24-25... And be a contender... He doesnt care that his health is at risk or the fact that hes probably gonna be dead by like 35... He also eats 500-600 grams of protein per day and 500 grams of carbs to cut.... I wish!!!!!!
Relistacally bro, your not gonna be able to handle a pro cutting cycle. nor be able to afford it. They use in a week what we use in a cycle. Eating a dieting is more important than the gear. Throw in a good fat burner and some cardio and your good to go!!!!
Johnny
Name of the individual will not be mentioned..... so dont ask!!!
GH- 10-15ius per day pending on individual
The use of a compound not to be mentioned on here.
Test- 2.5-5 grams of test per week
Tren- 800 mg- 1 gram per week drop 2 weeks before show.
Mast- 800mg-1.4 grams per week for 8 weeks
Primo- 1.5 g per week from week 5 out
EQ- 1 Gram per week last 8 weeks
Anavar- 200mg per day last 6 weeks
Anadrol- 150 mg per day last 6 weeks
The use of T3/T4... Not sure of the dosage, didnt ask him about it but i know its used.
This will be from 12 weeks out with the dosages increasing.
His stats---- 5'8'' 225 5% body fat...
He doesnt come off bro... When he bulks he ups the dose to something i wouldnt tell you. He is 22 years old and is dead set on competing olympia by the time hes 24-25... And be a contender... He doesnt care that his health is at risk or the fact that hes probably gonna be dead by like 35... He also eats 500-600 grams of protein per day and 500 grams of carbs to cut.... I wish!!!!!!
Relistacally bro, your not gonna be able to handle a pro cutting cycle. nor be able to afford it. They use in a week what we use in a cycle. Eating a dieting is more important than the gear. Throw in a good fat burner and some cardio and your good to go!!!!
Johnny
Name of the individual will not be mentioned..... so dont ask!!!
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Bullshit.
That guy is wasting his money and is going to go broke before(if ever) he steps on the O stage. You don't need anywhere near that amount of gear to get SUB 3% AND bone dry.
lol at your friend burning out his receptors and peaking too early.
satyricon1
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LOL @ those dosages. Rediculous bullshit!
Prop 150mg eod
Cardio 45min ed
CKD ed
dont discount those dosages so quickly they probably closer to the truth than one realises , insane and healthy or not
most people go way to crazy with cutting cycles.. thinking they are gonna burn muscle..
if you are above 15% you will burn very very little muscle even til 10% with good diet and supps you can prevent burning away the muscle.
if you add 350-500mg test and are above 8% and on good supps again you can prevent lots of the muscle breakdown.
I like test only to cut. I also like eq it makes me very vascular and doesnt bloat me up as much even though that is easy to control.
if you are above 15% you will burn very very little muscle even til 10% with good diet and supps you can prevent burning away the muscle.
if you add 350-500mg test and are above 8% and on good supps again you can prevent lots of the muscle breakdown.
I like test only to cut. I also like eq it makes me very vascular and doesnt bloat me up as much even though that is easy to control.
njmuscleguy
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agreed
if your 'friend' is really running 5 grams of test per week plus all those other compounds then he probably will drop dead before he is 25 or go bust. there is no way that is even possible. Jay Cutler doesn't even run all that, not even a quarter of that... i am 50 pounds less weight than your friend and almost the same height and 500mg test per week raises my blood pressure, so how is your friend 50 pounds more than me and running 10X more test per week plus a those other compounds and not dead by now?
johnnyboy3689282
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U really think jay cutler doesnt run that much.... your funny dude. You think jay cutler got to be 280 5% body fat at 5'8'' running a normal cycle, like every other gym rat, maybe slightly more test....lol, so then why isnt everyone a jay cutler????? Ive been told ronnie coleman shot up to 2 grams per day of test. His trainer has trained many that have contended for the Olympia title, and he is very close with several pros. He has also asked me many questions regarding alot of gear as well as researched thoroughly under the supervision of a physician. I can also say that the way he supports his habit is not exactly... legit..... Hes buying the compounds raw from china and mixing his own for one to help save, enough said.
We are talking about a kid that has been on cycle for 3+ years and DOES NOT GET OFF and as previosly mentioned, does not care about his health. He is under the supervision of a trained physician, and is currently an IFBB pro body builder....
You wanna win the olympia, truth of the matter is, you have to stack massive amounts. I understand what you are saying about how young he is and how he will peak his receptors, but he doesnt care... the only option he has is up the dose when you plataeu... Thats why i said he will be dead by no later than 35.... I believe it was Markus Ruhl that said we dont do this for our health... We do this to blow up as big as possible. They just take it to a new extreme. Do some research and youll find the doses that pros take are a bit unreal. Especially when bulking!!
We are talking about a kid that has been on cycle for 3+ years and DOES NOT GET OFF and as previosly mentioned, does not care about his health. He is under the supervision of a trained physician, and is currently an IFBB pro body builder....
You wanna win the olympia, truth of the matter is, you have to stack massive amounts. I understand what you are saying about how young he is and how he will peak his receptors, but he doesnt care... the only option he has is up the dose when you plataeu... Thats why i said he will be dead by no later than 35.... I believe it was Markus Ruhl that said we dont do this for our health... We do this to blow up as big as possible. They just take it to a new extreme. Do some research and youll find the doses that pros take are a bit unreal. Especially when bulking!!
There are no magical mystery stacks.
Some guys run no stims and get ripped. Other guys run everything they can get their hands on and still carry fat.
GEN -ET-TICS!!!
Here's one of my old time favs -- 100% Natural. Zabo Kowsewski circa 1968. He wasn't big AT ALL -- about 170. But ripped -- no clen, no lasix, no T 3, nothing but lots of ab work.
Some guys run no stims and get ripped. Other guys run everything they can get their hands on and still carry fat.
GEN -ET-TICS!!!
Here's one of my old time favs -- 100% Natural. Zabo Kowsewski circa 1968. He wasn't big AT ALL -- about 170. But ripped -- no clen, no lasix, no T 3, nothing but lots of ab work.
bro i couldn't care less how much they run to be honest. and obviously i know jay cutler runs big 'cycles' as you call them and not what a typical gym rat runs... i do think there is a genetic element at work here.. take some starbucks geek and pump him full of steroids and i promise you he won't look like Jay Cutler. it takes much more than roids and you should know that.. it takes dedication, nutrition and a lot of other factors. we are not rats, we are human beings.. we evolved much differently than rats did, i've even read that some asians lack a gene that will allow them to grow very little muscle. .
I don't want to add fuel to the fire here, but isn't it a well known fact that upwards of doses of approximately anywhere between 1-2g/week depending on the individual, test doesn't produce very noticeable gains compared to the side effects? Wouldn't an IFBB bodybuilder know this?
johnnyboy3689282
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I think the amount of test should be based off how much of th other peptides you are using. You also have to remember that test is like every other element we introduce our bodies too. We build a tolerance. And higher doses need to be used to continue to gain. You cant shoot 500 mg per week for the rest of your life and expect to gain the entire time your on. Eventually your body does plataeu off. I also believe when your eating for 2 people on your cutt up days, and given the amount of GH/Peptides being used, id say hes probably a little underdosed.
No hes not considered your every day gym rat, but your everyday gym rat cycles off. He doesnt. He abuses and eats insanely healthy rarely cheating, and it has netted him 76 lbs of lean muscle in 3 years and a physique many of us dream of. To bad hes not gonna be around long enough to enjoy it. Hes planning on being 255 by the end of next year.... if he makes it that long. Hes gonna have joint/tendon problems, and im gonna be honest, i beleieve genetics has a ton to do with how we turn out. Mariusz Pudgenowski( or however you spell it- 4 time WSM) said that at 19 years old, and with proper diet and your basic compounds, his little brother was deadlifting the same weight it took him 8 years to build up too. Everyones body reacts different to different gear, but given his doses and the physician overseeing him telling him everything is ok, genetics arnt playing much role here. These doses would fuck any normal person up. BTW, he has sides out the ass and gyno like no other, can you say bitch tits....
I totally agree with you guys thinking this is way overkill, but try and tell him to turn the dose down, and you will see what being vascular is... he makes Mike the steroid guy from Tosh.o look like a bitch.
No hes not considered your every day gym rat, but your everyday gym rat cycles off. He doesnt. He abuses and eats insanely healthy rarely cheating, and it has netted him 76 lbs of lean muscle in 3 years and a physique many of us dream of. To bad hes not gonna be around long enough to enjoy it. Hes planning on being 255 by the end of next year.... if he makes it that long. Hes gonna have joint/tendon problems, and im gonna be honest, i beleieve genetics has a ton to do with how we turn out. Mariusz Pudgenowski( or however you spell it- 4 time WSM) said that at 19 years old, and with proper diet and your basic compounds, his little brother was deadlifting the same weight it took him 8 years to build up too. Everyones body reacts different to different gear, but given his doses and the physician overseeing him telling him everything is ok, genetics arnt playing much role here. These doses would fuck any normal person up. BTW, he has sides out the ass and gyno like no other, can you say bitch tits....
I totally agree with you guys thinking this is way overkill, but try and tell him to turn the dose down, and you will see what being vascular is... he makes Mike the steroid guy from Tosh.o look like a bitch.
squatzilla
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Instead of this unrealistic bs, lets shoot to look like Bannout, Zane, etc - realistic (whatever that means) amounts of gear w/ the health aspect.
You guys forgot to mention how much money they spend on food. I read cutler spent 50k on food getting ready for one of the Olympias. He ate 2 lbs of orange roughy every 2 1/2 hrs. At $14 a lb you are talking serious money. Who would have the money to eat like that? That cycle stated above alone would cost thousands then he would have to spend thousands more on food and sups. I don't buy it for one second. The pros use tons of HGH and Test and lasix. Then like someone mentioned genetics kick in. That cycle is absurd, I don't believe any human being could handle that many compounds at once, not even Coleman and Cutler, two genetic freaks to say the least.
im sorry but then he has to have some real shitty genes
ok firstly this is just my personal opinion and not much else. i have spent almost 20 years in and around competitive gyms, and there is a few things i believe
if we had no access to steriods and such, the top bodybuilders would still be jay cutler, ronnie coleman, flex wheeler etc , if we had limited access to anabolics like much of us do the top athletes would still be ronnie coleman , jay cutler etc. if we had access to boundless amounts of anabolics in truck loads the top bodybuilders would still be ......... you see what i am getting at.
the cycle posted and similar ones is always hotly debated, but in my experience right or wrong is not far from the truth for some athletes , some top pros use half that, some pro's i am sure might even use more , just because 2g of test cannot be utilised by us normal folk does not mean that a genetic freaks body cant make full use of it.
i personally have run 2g test and 1200mg eq amoungst other compounds which cant be mentioned for awhile and did i become even remotely close to these guys, nope not even close, why ? because i do not have the genes and no amount of steriods is going to change that, and to be honest i grow just as much now on half that , whats changed ? my knowledge of my body, my eating habits on what works and what doesnt.
alot of the guys i would assume dont like threads like this as some uneducated individual might just try it thinking its the holy grail, only to soon discover as he lies in hospital with half a kidney , and whats left of his liver , that he too is not the next ronnie coleman.
if we had no access to steriods and such, the top bodybuilders would still be jay cutler, ronnie coleman, flex wheeler etc , if we had limited access to anabolics like much of us do the top athletes would still be ronnie coleman , jay cutler etc. if we had access to boundless amounts of anabolics in truck loads the top bodybuilders would still be ......... you see what i am getting at.
the cycle posted and similar ones is always hotly debated, but in my experience right or wrong is not far from the truth for some athletes , some top pros use half that, some pro's i am sure might even use more , just because 2g of test cannot be utilised by us normal folk does not mean that a genetic freaks body cant make full use of it.
i personally have run 2g test and 1200mg eq amoungst other compounds which cant be mentioned for awhile and did i become even remotely close to these guys, nope not even close, why ? because i do not have the genes and no amount of steriods is going to change that, and to be honest i grow just as much now on half that , whats changed ? my knowledge of my body, my eating habits on what works and what doesnt.
alot of the guys i would assume dont like threads like this as some uneducated individual might just try it thinking its the holy grail, only to soon discover as he lies in hospital with half a kidney , and whats left of his liver , that he too is not the next ronnie coleman.
In a way, these types of threads are like asking "What did Leonardo DiVinci eat for breakfast?"
What someone else does has absolutely NOTHING...read NOTHING to do with YOU acheiving anything close to what they have.
What someone else does has absolutely NOTHING...read NOTHING to do with YOU acheiving anything close to what they have.
Sust 350
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These threads are to gain knowledge on how pro's and bodybuilders get shredded with certain kinds of gear. If it bores you then jump to the next threads. We are here to learn. I don't want to think I'll never achieve what the pro's have, but I'll hit the weights hard everytime and do my best to get there. Knowledge is key!!!
I eat my wheaties in the morning....
johnnyboy3689282
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Im glad someone else is chimming in. Because genetic freak or not, theres is nothing at all natural about a guy that is 5'8'' weighing 280 and being 5%. I dont know why you guys deny the fact that the top pro use steroids.... Its a given fact that 95% of all professional atheletes have experimented with some sort of anabolic/illegal substance. And given today that everyone uses steroids to body build, the pros are just as bad.
If jay cutler does ahve these perfect genetics, and say he rendered 230 with no gear ever and perfect training and diet. Considering how big he "naturally is" i can see him having to shoot much more than your average man. This comes down to your basics in anestiology. You have to consider the persons weight for proper calculation upon injection. This being said, jay cutler tolerance for a synthetic test would have to be much greater to see some sort of results, because i can guarentee you that if he is just some big natural bro, then his normal test level would have to be 3-4 times what mine and your is. Meaning he would have to shoot atleast 1.5x the dose to yield bulky results, or atleast thats going off what everyone on the site believes is a proper dosage. considering that average mail produces 3.6-4.2cc of test per week. This being said he would also have to shoot his AAS at a much higher dosage to be able to yield results due to all the lean muscle.
Reality is, given these guys natural builds, the dosages would have to be shot much higher that the average joe blow... In the hospital, i cant take a 170 lbs patient and a 240 pound patient and give them the same amount of lidocaine and expect both of them to be pain free.... U must alter dosages depending on each individual, this is why the mods and experts on the site tell you kids new to AAS to start with a low dose and seek the dose that works for best for your body. Because alot of you are over using and could really be saving the supply and reusing in the future and saving money, yielding the same results.... Just my 2 cents from a medical stand point.
Johnny
You're missing the point pal. What I'm saying is that pros don;t shredded because of the stuff they take and YOU are not going to get the same results.
That's number one.
Number two -- lose the attitude. You have 14 posts. Snotty tough guy come backs don't fly here.
And thanks for the tip that knowledge is the key. Never heard that one before.
Sust 350
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What I was trying to get through your thick skull is don't tell me what I can't achieve. With that attitude you'll never get no were. Now I'm coming back as a tough guy and don't rub it in my face that I only got 14 posts. I came out friendly, but your the a$$.
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