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Thinking of running my first cycle...
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Ceros
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Ahhh...not sure what PCT to run now, been told so many! lol.
so...options are:
- HCGenerate+psytoserms
- Allmax TribX 90
- the natty test booster in "stevesmi" 's sig ( I think he's referring to the one called "E Control" not sure, :/ but in which case idk, cause I guess I don't need an E Blocker on PCT for this product? )
- POST CYCLE/Unleashed
- Forma, Post Cycle and Unleashed
No E Blocker needed? right? just run some liver support and natty test booster for pct?
so...options are:
- HCGenerate+psytoserms
- Allmax TribX 90
- the natty test booster in "stevesmi" 's sig ( I think he's referring to the one called "E Control" not sure, :/ but in which case idk, cause I guess I don't need an E Blocker on PCT for this product? )
- POST CYCLE/Unleashed
- Forma, Post Cycle and Unleashed
No E Blocker needed? right? just run some liver support and natty test booster for pct?
littlevedds
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Ive looked into it. Forma, post cycle, and unleashed would be the best; cover all the bases, but the forma isnt needed. Some Trib wouldnt hurt either, someone said TribX 90 is about equal to 125mg test for results. (not sure how much they took)
Ceros
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So, something like this:
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo
( hope I'm not breaking any rules... :/ )
and then maybe some trib? Also I've been reading and many postings are saying to also add Sustain.
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo
( hope I'm not breaking any rules... :/ )
and then maybe some trib? Also I've been reading and many postings are saying to also add Sustain.
RADAR
Well-known member
We have tons of options now to run PCT each one is adjustable depending on the Strength of the cycle and the length to take into consideration that Beastdrol is on the low end of a short cycle,so all you need is Unleashed,Forma Stanazol or sub that with psytoserms 247
needtogetaas
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Are you kidding me??? I have heard 8 different versions of what to do in this thread. For the love of god get on the same page people. Or at least some one give a good explanation of what is going on.
2. No 90% of the time a Ai is not needed duing a cycle of beastdrol however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol.
Beastdrol is described as a cross between anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of anadrol. anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position.(1) Thus making this steroid double methylated oral masterone. and hard on the liver. So some simple kid shit milk thisle is not going to cut it. For the record Milk thisle down regulates the androgen receptor anyway IMO its worthless unless combined with something that up regulated the androgen receptor(2).
This would explain why WAY before your time and most peoples time before it was coined the name Superdrol it was almost always called methyl methasterone by its original creators and scientist of the old steroid nation lol. Later its name ( like always) was shortened to methasteron and then when it was first produced by the very first "supplement company" ever it finally got its name superdrol.
The drug can not convert to estrogen however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol and androgen receptor cross over is not unheard of during the cycle (3) . For these reasons its a must one run a AI after a cycle of beastdrol as well as something with serm like effects. Onl a serm can block receptor cross over and a good suicidal aromatase inhibitor is best during pct over tyoe 2 Ai's which are known to reduce IGF levels and negatively effect cholesterol (4).
Beastdrol is a harsh drug and effects much more then just the liver. Reports of noise bleeds, back pumps, high blood pressure and or cholesterol are all over the net and backed up even more so by studies. So again a simple milk thistle used for on cycle support is not the best choice.
N@guard is the on cycle support of choice because it covers everything from cholesterol support to liver, Kidneys, a daily vitamin and even a androgen receptor up regulator too.
When dealing with your health and or your recovery if you have to ask " is it really needed" well then you got no business taking steroids at all. Do it the best way you can or don't do it at all. When it comes to the use of steroids if you are not the kind of person who says "better safe then sorry" but rather the kind of person who says " OOO man do I really need it?" in the hopes to save a buck.. Well get the hell out of the steroids hobby before you fuck your self all up..
More then half the people on any forum will tell you what you want to hear if that is the kind of person you are. Very few will stop and shoot str8 and tell you " Dont fuck your self' do it right. Even less will explain them selves and take the time to show you they know wtf they are talking about. I happen to be the creator of many of the products in question in this thread.
Do as you please but remember do not come crying to me or anyone else when your all fucked up with speed bags for tits or a liver that looks like hunk of mack truck tire on the side of the highway 3 months from now. You will have no one to blame but you and your own cheap ass.
(1)Methasterone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(2)Milk Thistle – good for the liver, bad for androgen receptors. Have ti post this one - Need To Build Muscle
(3)http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/receptor-cross-over-710073.html
4.Needtogetaas does suicidal aromatase inhibitor Exemestane,Aromasin. Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog
2. No 90% of the time a Ai is not needed duing a cycle of beastdrol however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol.
Beastdrol is described as a cross between anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of anadrol. anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position.(1) Thus making this steroid double methylated oral masterone. and hard on the liver. So some simple kid shit milk thisle is not going to cut it. For the record Milk thisle down regulates the androgen receptor anyway IMO its worthless unless combined with something that up regulated the androgen receptor(2).
This would explain why WAY before your time and most peoples time before it was coined the name Superdrol it was almost always called methyl methasterone by its original creators and scientist of the old steroid nation lol. Later its name ( like always) was shortened to methasteron and then when it was first produced by the very first "supplement company" ever it finally got its name superdrol.
The drug can not convert to estrogen however estrogen rebound is common after a cycle of beastdrol and androgen receptor cross over is not unheard of during the cycle (3) . For these reasons its a must one run a AI after a cycle of beastdrol as well as something with serm like effects. Onl a serm can block receptor cross over and a good suicidal aromatase inhibitor is best during pct over tyoe 2 Ai's which are known to reduce IGF levels and negatively effect cholesterol (4).
Beastdrol is a harsh drug and effects much more then just the liver. Reports of noise bleeds, back pumps, high blood pressure and or cholesterol are all over the net and backed up even more so by studies. So again a simple milk thistle used for on cycle support is not the best choice.
N@guard is the on cycle support of choice because it covers everything from cholesterol support to liver, Kidneys, a daily vitamin and even a androgen receptor up regulator too.
When dealing with your health and or your recovery if you have to ask " is it really needed" well then you got no business taking steroids at all. Do it the best way you can or don't do it at all. When it comes to the use of steroids if you are not the kind of person who says "better safe then sorry" but rather the kind of person who says " OOO man do I really need it?" in the hopes to save a buck.. Well get the hell out of the steroids hobby before you fuck your self all up..
More then half the people on any forum will tell you what you want to hear if that is the kind of person you are. Very few will stop and shoot str8 and tell you " Dont fuck your self' do it right. Even less will explain them selves and take the time to show you they know wtf they are talking about. I happen to be the creator of many of the products in question in this thread.
Do as you please but remember do not come crying to me or anyone else when your all fucked up with speed bags for tits or a liver that looks like hunk of mack truck tire on the side of the highway 3 months from now. You will have no one to blame but you and your own cheap ass.
(1)Methasterone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(2)Milk Thistle – good for the liver, bad for androgen receptors. Have ti post this one - Need To Build Muscle
(3)http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/receptor-cross-over-710073.html
4.Needtogetaas does suicidal aromatase inhibitor Exemestane,Aromasin. Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog
