Dbol, Tbol or Beast as a Kick Start?

[R305Builder]

OK So i am planning My next cycle, my Stats are as follows:

Age: 25
Height: 5' 11
Weight: 218
Training Experience: 6+ Years
Diet good clean about 4000 calories a day
Cycle History: done about 4 cycles Used Test C, Deca, Tren, Winny

Now my next cycle is as follows:

Week: 1-6 dbol 50mg ED
Week: 1-16 test e or Cyp 750mg EW
Week: 1-16 eq 600mg EW
Week: 10-16 tren A 50mg ED
Aromasin @ 12.5mg EOD
hcg 500iu 1-16 (250iu x2 a wk)

And Nelson's PCT

My questions is should i change the DBOL to TBOL or BEAST? Maybe even Var? Or Prop?
And What Dose?

I am just looking for a kickstart to my cycle and my GOAL is LEAN GAINS!!

Thanks for the help!

 

[bobby716]

beast is king IMO..its dBol without the water weight/bloat

never used Tbol and prop injects suck

 

[thewhiz7]

Tbol is very very nice. I prefer it to all other orals. That would be my choice.

 

[ALIN]

Nver tried the BEAST so I cant comment on that but I've always
had some good jump starts with DBOL.

 

[Local_Monster]

Hello. I was recently introduced into the world of performance enhancement. Unfortunately i lost my contact. Has anyone used napsgear.net in the past? If not, is there a site you recomend. I am interested in tbol.

 

[dirtyluke1]

would also like to know.......bump

 

[zedhed]

I love Beast and I love Tbol. Never used anything else to kickstart a cycle. Either one of those will be excellent. But I think that Beast has an edge over the Tbol.

 

[Arabian]

Since your running Tren! Run the dbol because it will bulk you up more! Tbol is useless for bulking up and it sounds like you have the EQ and Tren to stay lean! Also , keep in mind that the EQ takes 10 weeks to start seeing the full benefits of it! You have designed a very nice cycle!

 

[-SD-]

Since your running Tren! Run the dbol because it will bulk you up more! Tbol is useless for bulking up and it sounds like you have the EQ and Tren to stay lean! Also , keep in mind that the EQ takes 10 weeks to start seeing the full benefits of it! You have designed a very nice cycle!

Does that mean the full benefits continue 10 weeks after the cycle is over? Logically that would have to be since its a 10 week cycle.

 

[Bradock]

Lean gains would be tbol its dbol without the estrogen sides but half the weight and size gains.

 

[Voijn]

that is, size gain of water .

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I love Beast and I love Tbol. Never used anything else to kickstart a cycle. Either one of those will be excellent. But I think that Beast has an edge over the Tbol.

Alright, very strange story I've never once shared publicly... but I ran an entire bottle start to finish (Beast) with an insane training routine, and calculated nutritional intake - and ended up with a zero-sum gain. I felt tighter and more pumped, but as far as measurable muscle mass accrual, literally nothing. I was shocked.

Anyway, I just got Tbol in, and I'm really looking forward to it... never used it before. I'm prepping for a contest, so I hope this will be an awesome stack (with Anavar). Any thoughts would be extremely helpful on personal experiences gauging optimal dosages. I am also on Prop, TrenA, and EQ (until Masteron and Primo come into play).

 

[ppgfreak]

Only done dbol me self. But the other two do interest me. I might change it up next cycle.

I just don't like fixing something if its not broken.....

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[snooch pounder]

Never done dbol...not interested in the bloat. Beast is good for mass but tbol is sweet w regards to endurance and an overall hardening.

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[semper03]

D-Bol was a great kickstart for me. it gave me awesome strength! I had zero bloating water retention or any other side except for it have me bad dandruff and thinned my hair like a SOB! I am gonna give beast a try next time and hope hair stays on my head lol

 

[ppgfreak]

^Marines don't need hair, if we did the corp would issue it lol

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[semper03]

^Marines don't need hair, if we did the corp would issue it lol

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Hahaha I just don't want patches to form and have to bic it. I don't look good that bald. Lol

 

[dynamountain]

Dbol - the classic , more gains which wont last as to a big part due to waterbloating and as a 17aa one of the big gyne maker
Tbol is stronger anabolic then dbol without the strong aromatization so my choice .

Cant comment on beast

 

[Bidwelling]

Been on beast at 30 mgs a day for 1 week now. In 5 days I gains 4 pounds of muscle an lost body fat. Absolutely amazing. Everyone noticing results. But now at day 6 and 7 flu like symptoms. So nauseous can barely eat. Tired. Aches and pains like the flu. Insomnia and minor anxiety. Lowered it to 20 mgs today because I really don't want to stop these results but if not better tomorrow will come off. Doing 250mgs katanabol a day, 500 test sust a week. Forma stanzol 5 pumps twice a day. If u don't get sides from the beast then my god u must do it. But my sides are terrible. Never had these side effects before like this before. 5 cycles