Re: 3 Questions for Dr. L


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Posted by Dr L on February 04, 1997 at 13:42:02:

In Reply to: Re: 3 Questions for Dr. L posted by RZ on February 04, 1997 at 11:32:48:

: : : Dr. L

: : : In your prior posts you mentioned the term 'testicular insufficient'.
: : : By that , do you mean low free
: : : testosterone and/or low total testosterone (~300-400ng/dl)?
: : =Low total testosterone <600 for a <30
: : If you have normal total testo but low free it's another problem
: : generally it appears for obese male
: : Low-mild total testo and high free testo is seen in obese female
: : : Why not make use of Testolactone(Teslac) instead of proviron? Cost?
: : Teslac is not a AS ,it prevents the conversion of testo in female hormone
: : Provirion is an androgen which doesn't aromatize in female hormone
: : It's slighty different, you can use proviron alone but you need to use teslac with a testosterone-like
: : otherwise it's useless
: : : Would adding Deca (~200 - 400 mg/week for 6-8wks)
: : : to the Proviron/Oxandrolone stack defeat the purpose?
: : you can not help you to stack up AS ! The more you stack the more
: : you are likely to get acute side effects. Stop to always think in term of cycle
: : i have already explained than longer, fewer is better and safer
: : 50-150mg/ week of deca is sufficient, you can use Proviron/Oxandrolone
: : or proviron/deca which is more potent but less safe.
: :

: : : Would this make hypogonadism worse?
: : of course
: : : terms of nitrogen retention
: : with deca it would be improved BUT side effects too
: : and finally you might be compelled to stop this "cycle with deca" earlier than "without deca"
: : Do you want to improve slightly your nitrogen retention during 2 months or 4?
: : recovery aid and possibly helping with joint pains associated with lifting.
: : I can't say, i'm not enough skilled in BB, generally joint pain get worse with/after AS
: : :
: : : Thank you very much for answers and contributions.

: Thanks for the info. Dr. L. So as a matter of review,
: Let's say a 31 yo male has the following
: hormonal profile:

: total testo of ~350 ng.dl,
TOO LOW for 31 yo
: free testo of 17 pg/ml (normal should be 18-39,I
: think).
LOW
: %free testo .47
: LH ~5.3-8.4 MIU/ML
OK
: FSH ~3.2 MIU/ML
NORMAL,LOW
: estrogen 67 PG/ML
TOO HIGH
: Body Type: Mostly Endo
: BF: 12-13%
: Wt.: 198 lbs
: Ht: 5'7"
: no gyno, susciptible(sic) to hair loss:RELEVANT
: testes size: normal :RELEVANT


There is something wrong, if it was a true testes insufficient,
his LH would be much higher

Has this guy already used AS ? what,how much,how long, recently ?

: This male follows an excellent diet and intense
: exercise 4 times a week.

Before i answer i'm waiting your answer about his previous AS use
because it changes everything

: Then if one follows your advise correctly then
: he should the following:

: a) it appears that this person is a type 1 based
: on your previous postings. Therefore:
: b) start at 10 mg of Provirion a day for 1st week and try
: to reach 25mg by the end of the month. Take
: a blood test and make sure LH is above 0.5.

: So the questions are (please forgive me for repeating
: what you might have already covered):

: 1) Should one stay at 25mg of Proviron for life
: or increase to 40 mg a day (for life)? Or
: should one take Provirion until testo elevates
: to ~600 and then stop?


: 2) We have discussed oxandrolone and you have
: stated that 40mg for 45 days is safe and effective.
: Is there a time in the Provirion administration
: period that one should start oxandrolone or at
: any time of therapy (i.e should one wait a few weeks
: after start of Proviron therapy or at the start)?

: 3) There has been some who say that oxandrolone
: has caused them indegestion problems. In your
: experience how should one administer this drug?
: In small divided doses? Before, with or after meals?
It doesn't matter, it depends for each people
usually it's better to take it with the main meal

: Thanks again for your help




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