Re: things you need

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: : : : : : : : : : : : After reviewing the facts... I've come to this conclusion, but would like if you'd people would correct me if I'm wrong... To begin a first mass building cycle, you need as a bare minimum : : : : : : : - Testosterone : : : : : : : - Nolvadex : : : : : : : - HCG : : : : : : : - and something mild to taper off (Primo or what ever) : : : : : : : now... : : : : : : : I calculated this all to be around $1000.00 Canadian... now before you all choke on your laughter at this posting, I'd really like to know... I guess, and I know that different things are good for different people, and I realize that what works for Joe Juicer, will not necessarily work for me... : : : : : : : But... : : : : : : : Am I fair to say, if you want to keep gains, and not have to many androgenic side effects, that this is what you'll need? or am I just rambling away? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Matty : : I don't claim to be an expert, but for a first time : : cycle I don't think you would have to spend that : : much if you had a good source. A friend of mine gained : : 36 lbs on a six week cycle of Test Enthanate and : : 2cc's of sostenon 250. Which probably cost him $175(U.S.) : : No nolvadex, no clomid, no mild anabolic to taper off. : : He lost about 10 lbs of water in the four weeks following : : his cycle which amounted to a gain of 26 lbs after : : the cycle and with virtually no change in bodyfat. : : He took Flax oil, citrus bioflavinoids, and saw palmetto : : during the cycle and had virtually NO side effects other than : : a little water retention and shrunken 'nads. Four weeks : : after the cycle he had rebounded and his 'nads and most of the : : strength he gained were back. : Really... I guess I was a little worried about losing the size... alot of people say Nolvadex, and HCG are needed when doing test without a doubt.. I guess it depends on your anabolic, to androgenic ratio... : Matty

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