Re: things you need

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : After reviewing the facts... I've come to this conclusion, but would like if you'd people would correct me if I'm wrong... To begin a first mass building cycle, you need as a bare minimum : : : : : : : : - Testosterone : : : : : : : : - Nolvadex : : : : : : : : - HCG : : : : : : : : - and something mild to taper off (Primo or what ever) : : : : : : : : now... : : : : : : : : I calculated this all to be around $1000.00 Canadian... now before you all choke on your laughter at this posting, I'd really like to know... I guess, and I know that different things are good for different people, and I realize that what works for Joe Juicer, will not necessarily work for me... : : : : : : : : But... : : : : : : : : Am I fair to say, if you want to keep gains, and not have to many androgenic side effects, that this is what you'll need? or am I just rambling away? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Matty : : : I don't claim to be an expert, but for a first time : : : cycle I don't think you would have to spend that : : : much if you had a good source. A friend of mine gained : : : 36 lbs on a six week cycle of Test Enthanate and : : : 2cc's of sostenon 250. Which probably cost him $175(U.S.) : : : No nolvadex, no clomid, no mild anabolic to taper off. : : : He lost about 10 lbs of water in the four weeks following : : : his cycle which amounted to a gain of 26 lbs after : : : the cycle and with virtually no change in bodyfat. : : : He took Flax oil, citrus bioflavinoids, and saw palmetto : : : during the cycle and had virtually NO side effects other than : : : a little water retention and shrunken 'nads. Four weeks : : : after the cycle he had rebounded and his 'nads and most of the : : : strength he gained were back. : : Really... I guess I was a little worried about losing the size... alot of people say Nolvadex, and HCG are needed when doing test without a doubt.. I guess it depends on your anabolic, to androgenic ratio... : : Matty : I wouldn't use the HCG or the Nolvadex. The Nolvadex may reduce your gains, and HCG will only delay the crash like they said. HCG is responsible for more than it's share of side effects, too. I would get some Clomid, : and use that when you stop. It has always been helpful for my "friends". Take 2 tabs a day for 1 week, and 1 a day for another 1 or 2 weeks. : Boomer

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